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  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,827
    w2bond wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    That's quite high enough.
    You get a D then.
    Now you have to see the Principle.
    And you get a D for spelling
    :))

    I am undone... 8-|
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
    Posts: 755
    23. Die Another Day
    22. Tomorrow Never Dies
    21. The Man With The Golden Gun
    20. Moonraker
    19. A View to a Kill
    18. GoldenEye
    17. Live and Let Die
    16. The World Is Not Enough
    15. Octopussy
    14. Diamonds Are Forever
    13. The Spy Who Loved Me
    12. You Only Live Twice
    11. Licence to Kill
    10. For Your Eyes Only
    09. The Living Daylights
    08. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    07. Quantum of Solace
    06. Skyfall
    05. Goldfinger
    04. Dr. No
    03. From Russia With Love
    02. Thunderball
    01. Casino Royale
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,521
    After finishing my Bondathon tonight:

    23. Moonraker
    22. A View to a Kill
    21. Die Another Day
    20. Diamonds Are Forever
    19. Octopussy
    18. The Man with the Golden Gun
    17. Tomorrow Never Dies
    16. You Only Live Twice
    15. The World Is Not Enough
    14. The Living Daylights
    13. Quantum of Solace
    12. Live and Let Die
    11. For Your Eyes Only
    10. From Russia with Love
    9. Thunderball
    8. Licence to Kill
    7. The Spy Who Loved Me
    6. Dr. No
    5. Skyfall
    4. GoldenEye
    3. Goldfinger
    2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    1. Casino Royale

    Quite a few changes since my last ranking. Itching to find out where Spectre will land...
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
    Posts: 1,263
    I'm surprised as well, Goldeneye is on the brink of falling out of my top 5. Amazingly, it has managed to hold it up until Spectre. I still think it's great, but I get more of a box check vibe from it as time goes on.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,521
    @Birdleson I know you're not a fan of GoldenEye; seems to be one of the only films we strongly disagree on. It only moved up one spot from #5, and that's because Skyfall didn't hold up quite as great as I was hoping for (sorry @Mansfield), even though I still love it. My Top 5 are pretty much in their own class; if I were to put them in tiers...

    Tier 1 (Incredible): #1-5
    Tier 2 (Great): #6-8
    Tier 3 (Very Good): #9-12
    Tier 4 (Good/Decent): #13-17
    Tier 5 (Mediocre): #18-19
    Tier 6 (Disappointing): #20-23
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
    Posts: 1,263
    Birdleson wrote: »
    That was something that irked me form the first time I saw it. I still enjoy it, but it's not in my Top ten. @FoxRox and I used to be pretty much in line (we still share 8 out of the top 10).
    It seems perfectly respectable to have Goldeneye ranked outside of the top 10. Honestly, anything between 5-15 seems pretty fair. I'm sure plenty of people have it ranked higher or lower than that, but I think that's teetering on the edge of overpraise or nit picking. Consider some of the efforts of less prestigious films, it is a reliable film overall. That's probably the one aspect that holds it in my top 5, along with my appreciation of Brosnan.

  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,521
    Birdleson wrote: »
    That is where I tend to see things begin to slip, after the #15 spot. Those are the ones that I have to force myself to get up for during a Bond-A-Thon.

    Basically this group here:

    16. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH (1999)
    17. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS (1987)
    18. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER (1971)
    19. A VIEW TO A KILL (1985)
    20. TOMORROW NEVER DIES (1997)
    21. OCTOPUSSY (1983)
    22. DIE ANOTHER DAY (2002)
    23. MOONRAKER (1979)

    Though, I can certainly enjoy large chunks of any of those at the right time.

    Allowing a few placement changes, we mostly have the same perception of what the series' weakest titles are. I just didn't have any fun with Moonraker last time, so it earned last place; at least A View to a Kill has Christopher Walken and a good title song.
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
    Posts: 1,263
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Allowing a few placement changes, we mostly have the same perception of what the series' weakest titles are. I just didn't have any fun with Moonraker last time, so it earned last place; at least A View to a Kill has Christopher Walken and a good title song.
    Yes, A View To A Kill can never be last in my rankings on those basic factors alone. No worries about the Skyfall drop, it will be the last rat standing. I'm wondering what added context Spectre could provide to Skyfall to raise its stock.

    Re: @Birdleson

    I would watch TWINE, TLD, DAF, TND, and OP out of that list without effort. I'm surprised you have The Man With The Golden Gun in your desirable half. That's probably the most glaring selection I can think of.

    The only other thing I have trouble relating to is ranking LTK over TLD. Though, this seems like a natural divide on this board. I see TLD as a vastly superior entry. Admittedly, I am a secret fan of it in no small part to the presence of Talisa Soto. Overall, I just think they do much of it poorly and over the top. I think Dalton had his living on the edge thing down in TLD, and what he brings in LTK is so personal in a mercenary kind of way without the emotional attachment to make it believable for me. It was the wrong film to explore Q's relationship with Bond since Dalton often treats Q like a nuisance instead of the true friend along the lines of Moore or Brosnan. Even Craig's treatment of Q is part respect mixed with his cynicism. /rant
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    edited October 2015 Posts: 12,521
    It's still up in the air, obviously, but I predict Spectre will end up sneaking into my Top 10 at #9 or so. For some reason I have this feeling that it's not going to be better than Skyfall.

    EDIT: What worries me most about Spectre potentially is it being too similar to OHMSS. OHMSS is one of my favorites, but do we really need the same thing again? It's just a potential concern. And also the possibility of it getting too melodramatic.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited October 2015 Posts: 8,452
    I have settled on my definitive top 5 preSPECTRE Bond films:

    1. GOLDFINGER (1964)
    2. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE (1963)
    3. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE (1969)
    4. CASINO ROYALE (2006)
    5. DR NO (1962)


    EDIT: I couldn't help it. I wasn't happy so I shuffled them around a bit. This is THE definitive ranking. :-SS
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    FoxRox wrote: »
    @Birdleson I know you're not a fan of GoldenEye; seems to be one of the only films we strongly disagree on. It only moved up one spot from #5, and that's because Skyfall didn't hold up quite as great as I was hoping for (sorry @Mansfield), even though I still love it. My Top 5 are pretty much in their own class; if I were to put them in tiers...

    Tier 1 (Incredible): #1-5
    Tier 2 (Great): #6-8
    Tier 3 (Very Good): #9-12
    Tier 4 (Good/Decent): #13-17
    Tier 5 (Mediocre): #18-19
    Tier 6 (Disappointing): #20-23

    I was looking at your wording. The highest ranked Bond films get the tag "Incredible". So isn't it fair that the lowest ranked Bond film gets the tag "Groce" or "Very Bad" or "Highly inferior" :-)? I would even add a 2nd grade to it. And always include a "center-grading" or "neutral-grading". Perhaps you can agree with this grading @FoxRox?:

    Tier 1, #01-03: (MASTERPIECE !!!)
    Tier 2, #04-06: (Good !!)
    Tier 3, #07-10: (Above average !)
    Tier 4, #11-13: (Average)
    Tier 5, #14-17: (Below average !)
    Tier 6, #18-20: (Bad !!)
    Tier 7, #21-23: (UTTERLY GROCE !!!)

    By doing so, you force yourself, and others, to make a better choice... With your grading all choices are more or less starting at "Mildly below average" and then instantly go to higher, more positive wordings.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    I have settled on my definitive top 5 preSPECTRE Bond films:

    1. GOLDFINGER (1964)
    2. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE (1963)
    3. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE (1969)
    4. CASINO ROYALE (2006)
    5. DR NO (1962)


    EDIT: I couldn't help it. I wasn't happy so I shuffled them around a bit. This is THE definitive ranking. :-SS

    Bravo, excellent top five.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,521
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    I have settled on my definitive top 5 preSPECTRE Bond films:

    1. GOLDFINGER (1964)
    2. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE (1963)
    3. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE (1969)
    4. CASINO ROYALE (2006)
    5. DR NO (1962)


    EDIT: I couldn't help it. I wasn't happy so I shuffled them around a bit. This is THE definitive ranking. :-SS

    That is a really good list. Objectively maybe the 5 best ones.
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
    edited October 2015 Posts: 1,263
    Birdleson wrote: »
    The first half of TLD is very good, even gray at times, but I find nothing redeeming once we get to Afghanistan. That is torture for me. LTK may have some flaws; the Q scenes, Bouvier, the bar fight, extended truck chase... but most of it really works for me. I dig the rawness and intensity.
    Do your views of the Afghanistan sequence have any roots in the historical implications it has? I think it's fair to have hold altered views with how events transpired after the film. In a way, I actually think the alliance with the mujahideen highlights a valuable lesson on foreign relations that shows the dark side of, "the enemy of your enemy is your friend."

    Judging it purely within the context of the film, I think it only sags after Bond gets into airplane. The final confrontation is so ridiculous -- it would only work if Roger Moore was still Bond. Suffice to say Dalton doesn't pull it off, but it would even be thick for Connery. Though, it certainly helps that Barry provides a unique motif for this section of the film, and a beautiful one at that.

    Edit: Final confrontation with Necros and Koskov. I actually really loved the final duel with Whitaker. That was oozing with the great persona Dalton offered as Bond.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,589
    Mansfield wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    The first half of TLD is very good, even gray at times, but I find nothing redeeming once we get to Afghanistan. That is torture for me. LTK may have some flaws; the Q scenes, Bouvier, the bar fight, extended truck chase... but most of it really works for me. I dig the rawness and intensity.
    Do your views of the Afghanistan sequence have any roots in the historical implications it has? I think it's fair to have hold altered views with how events transpired after the film. In a way, I actually think the alliance with the mujahideen highlights a valuable lesson on foreign relations that shows the dark side of, "the enemy of your enemy is your friend."

    Judging it purely within the context of the film, I think it only sags after Bond gets into airplane. The final confrontation is so ridiculous -- it would only work if Roger Moore was still Bond. Suffice to say Dalton doesn't pull it off, but it would even be thick for Connery. Though, it certainly helps that Barry provides a unique motif for this section of the film, and a beautiful one at that.

    Edit: Final confrontation with Necros and Koskov. I actually really loved the final duel with Whitaker. That was oozing with the great persona Dalton offered as Bond.

    1. The Afghanistan scenes are tainted by poor set design and lighting. The jail scene is laughable. It looks like a Brady Bunch set. I'd say that TLD has one of the worst (if not the worst) production design in the series.

    2. That bar fight in LTK is pure camp. I love it. Remember, LTK came out only a month or so after Road House. I remember thinking "Road House" when that fight started. I love Bouvier's little "tsk tsk tsk" at the size of Bond's gun.
  • AntiLocqueBrakesAntiLocqueBrakes The edge
    Posts: 538
    Wow. Tough crowd. I love TLD especially after Bond and Kara get to Afghanistan. It's a complicated plot, even by Bond standards, so it took me a second to understand why the fight had to evolve in stages. First the deal between the Mujahadeen and the Soviets. Then Bond tries to destroy the heroin. Then the Soviets counterattack. Loved the breakout from jail beforehand as well.

    Must concede that the LTK bar fight was pure cheese. Dancer showed great discipline throughout. Bouvier was brutal throughout.
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
    Posts: 2,252
    TLD is still one of the most well rounded Bond films for me (and my current #1). It's mostly got all the elements we've come to expect and is quite gripping from beginning to end. I can understand the criticisms towards the final third, and especially the confrontation with Whittaker, but the final fight with Necros makes up for everything and is one of the best stunts in the series.

    The score is great but is definitely quite repetitive. However, I do love the integration of both the theme song instrumentals. I'll have to say as a whole I prefer Octopussy's more varied sounds (palace fight, chase bomb, etc). As for his other tracks, they're all special and unique, yes even golden gun.

    The recent criticisms of it I have read on it here may affect my opinion of it in the future but it's overall one of the films I most enjoy. Plus, if TLD is not number one, that position would go to....Octopussy....and I'm not prepared to do that just yet
    Birdleson wrote: »
    Mansfield wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    The first half of TLD is very good, even gray at times, but I find nothing redeeming once we get to Afghanistan. That is torture for me. LTK may have some flaws; the Q scenes, Bouvier, the bar fight, extended truck chase... but most of it really works for me. I dig the rawness and intensity.
    Do your views of the Afghanistan sequence have any roots in the historical implications it has?

    No. The whole glorification of the Mujahideen does seem silly and naive at this point, but I can overlook that. I mainly find those segments boring, flat and interminable.

    And, again I realize I may be alone on this, TLD contains the only Barry score that I dislike. To me it comes off as tinny. That repeated motif is cloying.

  • cmdrbond007cmdrbond007 Pittsburgh, PA, USA.
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    1. "The Spy Who Loved Me" (1977)
    2. "Goldfinger" (1964)
    3. "From Russia With Love" (1963)
    4. "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" (1969)
    5. "Skyfall" (2012)
    6. "For Your Eyes Only" (1981)
    7. "Casino Royale" (2006)
    8. "The Living Daylights" (1987)
    9. "Dr. No" (1962)
    10. "Thunderball" (1965)
    11. "GoldenEye" (1995)
    12. "You Only Live Twice" (1967)
    13. "Octopussy" (1983)
    14. "Quantum Of Solace" (2008)
    15. "The World Is Not Enough" (1999)
    16. "Licence To Kill" (1989)
    17. "Moonraker" (1979)
    18. "Tomorrow Never Dies" (1997)
    19. "The Man With The Golden Gun" (1974)
    20. "Diamonds Are Forever" (1971)
    21. "A View To A Kill" (1985)
    22. "Live And Let Die" (1973)
    23. “Die Another Day” (2002)
    ??. SPECTRE (2015)
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    Posts: 4,537
    One weak before Dutch release, time to re-post my Top 23.

    This whas my update from May 2009 (Top 22):
    01.01 Goldeneye
    02.02 The World Is Not Enough
    03.03 Tomorrow Never Dies
    04.04 For Your Eyes Only
    05.05 A View To A Kill
    06.06 On Her Majesty's secret Service
    07.07 Live And Let Die
    08.08 From Russia With Love
    09.09 The Living Daylights
    10.11 Octopussy
    11.10 The Man With The Golden Gun
    12.13 Diamonds Are Forever
    13.14 The Spy Who Loved Me
    14.-- Quantum Of Solace
    15.15 Licence To Kill
    16.16 You Only Live Twice
    17.17 Dr No
    18.12 Die Another Day
    19.19 Goldfinger
    20.18 Moonraker
    21.21 Casino Royale
    22.20 Thunderball

    This whas my update around Christmas 2012 (Top 23 from 23 to 1):
    22.23 Thunderball
    21.22 Casino Royale
    20.21 Moonraker
    19.20 Goldfinger
    18.19 Die Another Day
    17.18 Dr No
    --.17 Skyfall
    16.16 You Only Live Twice
    15.15 Licence To Kill
    14.14 Quantum Of Solace
    13.13 The Spy Who Loved Me
    12.12 Diamonds Are Forever
    11.11 The Man With The Golden Gun
    10.10 Octopussy
    09.09 The Living Daylights
    08.08 From Russia With Love
    07.07 Live and Let Die
    06.06 On Her Majesty's secret Service
    05.05 A View To A Kill
    04.04 For Your Eyes Only
    03.03 Tomorrow Never Dies
    02.02 The World Is Not Enough
    01.01 Goldeneye

    And this whas my last update of Top 23 (Update: June 2014)

    01-01. GoldenEye (1995)
    02-02. The World Is Not Enough (1999)
    03-03 Tomorrow Never Dies (1997)
    04-04. For Your Eyes Only (1981)
    05-05. A View to a Kill (1985)
    06-06. On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969)
    07-07. Live and Let Die (1973)
    08-08. From Russia with Love (1963)
    09-09. The Living Daylights (1987)
    10-10. Octopussy (1983)
    11-11. The Man with the Golden Gun (1974)
    12-12. Diamonds Are Forever (1971)
    13-13. The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
    15-14. Licence To kill (1989)
    16-15. You Only Live Twice (1967)
    14-16. Quantum Of Solace (2008.)
    18-17. Dr No (1962)
    20-18. Goldfinger (1964)
    21-19. Moonraker (1979)
    19-20. Die Another Day (2002)
    22-21. Casino Royale (2006)
    17-22. Skyfall (2012)
    23-23. Thunderball (1965)

    In January i watched 3th view of Skyfall and in February QOS for fift time.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,592
    I like your top 3, @M_Bale.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    Posts: 4,116
    M_Balje wrote: »
    One weak before Dutch release, time to re-post my Top 23.

    This whas my update from May 2009 (Top 22):
    01.01 Goldeneye
    02.02 The World Is Not Enough
    03.03 Tomorrow Never Dies
    04.04 For Your Eyes Only
    05.05 A View To A Kill
    06.06 On Her Majesty's secret Service
    07.07 Live And Let Die
    08.08 From Russia With Love
    09.09 The Living Daylights
    10.11 Octopussy
    11.10 The Man With The Golden Gun
    12.13 Diamonds Are Forever
    13.14 The Spy Who Loved Me
    14.-- Quantum Of Solace
    15.15 Licence To Kill
    16.16 You Only Live Twice
    17.17 Dr No
    18.12 Die Another Day
    19.19 Goldfinger
    20.18 Moonraker
    21.21 Casino Royale
    22.20 Thunderball

    This whas my update around Christmas 2012 (Top 23 from 23 to 1):
    22.23 Thunderball
    21.22 Casino Royale
    20.21 Moonraker
    19.20 Goldfinger
    18.19 Die Another Day
    17.18 Dr No
    --.17 Skyfall
    16.16 You Only Live Twice
    15.15 Licence To Kill
    14.14 Quantum Of Solace
    13.13 The Spy Who Loved Me
    12.12 Diamonds Are Forever
    11.11 The Man With The Golden Gun
    10.10 Octopussy
    09.09 The Living Daylights
    08.08 From Russia With Love
    07.07 Live and Let Die
    06.06 On Her Majesty's secret Service
    05.05 A View To A Kill
    04.04 For Your Eyes Only
    03.03 Tomorrow Never Dies
    02.02 The World Is Not Enough
    01.01 Goldeneye

    And this whas my last update of Top 23 (Update: June 2014)

    01-01. GoldenEye (1995)
    02-02. The World Is Not Enough (1999)
    03-03 Tomorrow Never Dies (1997)
    04-04. For Your Eyes Only (1981)
    05-05. A View to a Kill (1985)
    06-06. On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969)
    07-07. Live and Let Die (1973)
    08-08. From Russia with Love (1963)
    09-09. The Living Daylights (1987)
    10-10. Octopussy (1983)
    11-11. The Man with the Golden Gun (1974)
    12-12. Diamonds Are Forever (1971)
    13-13. The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
    15-14. Licence To kill (1989)
    16-15. You Only Live Twice (1967)
    14-16. Quantum Of Solace (2008.)
    18-17. Dr No (1962)
    20-18. Goldfinger (1964)
    21-19. Moonraker (1979)
    19-20. Die Another Day (2002)
    22-21. Casino Royale (2006)
    17-22. Skyfall (2012)
    23-23. Thunderball (1965)

    In January i watched 3th view of Skyfall and in February QOS for fift time.

    Your list is almost opposite convention. Thanks for sharing.

  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    A few ammendments-

    1. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    2. For Your Eyes Only
    3. The Spy Who Loved Me
    4. From Russia with Love
    5. Goldfinger
    6. Octopussy
    7. Casino Royale
    8. The Living Daylights
    9. Licence to Kill
    10. A View to a Kill
    11. Skyfall +3
    12. Diamonds Are Forever
    13. Live and Let Die -2
    14. The Man with the Golden Gun -1
    15. Tomorrow Never Dies
    16. Goldeneye
    17. Thunderball
    18. Dr. No +1
    19. You Only Live Twice -1
    20. Quantum of Solace
    21. Moonraker +1
    22. The World is not Enough -1
    23. Die Another Day
  • StirredNotShakenStirredNotShaken Toronto
    Posts: 2,402
    I'm aiming to be the first MI6C member to have SPECTRE in a list.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    StirredNotShaken wrote: »
    I'm aiming to be the first MI6C member to have SPECTRE in a list.

    Yeah, you bloody Brits always get a new Bond film first :P.

  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,827
    1. TLD
    2. LTK
    3. TND
    4. DN
    5. GF
    6. GE
    7. FRWL
    8. SP (projected)
    9. QOS
    10. TMWTGG
    11. TWINE
    12. YOLT
    13. TB
    14. OHMSS
    15. FYEO
    16. OP
    17. TSWLM
    18. CR
    19. LALD
    20. AVTAK
    21. DAD
    22. DAF
    23. SF
    24. MR
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    You silly, silly American man.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,592
    chrisisall wrote: »
    1. TLD
    2. LTK
    3. TND
    4. DN
    5. GF
    6. GE
    7. FRWL
    8. SP (projected)
    9. QOS
    10. TMWTGG
    11. TWINE
    12. YOLT
    13. TB
    14. OHMSS
    15. FYEO
    16. OP
    17. TSWLM
    18. CR
    19. LALD
    20. AVTAK
    21. DAD
    22. DAF
    23. SF
    24. MR
    Woah.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,452
    chrisisall wrote: »
    1. TLD
    2. LTK
    3. TND
    4. DN
    5. GF
    6. GE
    7. FRWL
    8. SP (projected)
    9. QOS
    10. TMWTGG
    11. TWINE
    12. YOLT
    13. TB
    14. OHMSS
    15. FYEO
    16. OP
    17. TSWLM
    18. CR
    19. LALD
    20. AVTAK
    21. DAD
    22. DAF
    23. SF
    24. MR

    I like that you rate CR 18th, well done =D>
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,827
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    You silly, silly American man.
    Touche'
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
    Posts: 2,252
    chrisisall wrote: »
    8. SP (projected)

    My projected is between 6-9, the biggest question mark being the score and whether it will affect my enjoyment enough to affect the ranking. I'm quite confident I will love the rest of it.

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