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  • Crazysoul95Crazysoul95
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    I saw both SF and SP the first day, so i could hopefully see it with some true fans.
    In SF, the bitch comment about M, What makes you think this is my first time, and the ejector seat gag, got major laughs.
    In SP i can't recall anything, sadly...
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Barely any laughs, and virtually zero claps at the end where I was, as busy as it was. Skyfall had the audience go nuts in the exact setting 3 years before. I couldn't wrap my head around it.

    Peeps want to feel sad at the end, then be picked up briefly. We are being groomed as a culture to expect no triumphs. Kudos to Mendes & Craig for going against the grain here!
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    I'm surprised so many fans rate the 3rd half, especially the entire Morocco sequence (l'Américain, train/fight sequence, Blofeld's lair, Blofeld's meteroid, torture sequence, lair destruction), so low. For me it was a highlight. Especially after the Austria sequence.

    Here is my updated list once again as of November 29th 2015. Can I say one thing? I'm surprised so many fans in here are chaning their rankings so much. For me SP will probably stay forever in 6th to 8th spot The film isn't a cultural, critical and financial phenomenon. But for me it's better than all of the four Brosnan films, and Moore's last outing:

    Masterpieces!!!:
    01 --> 9.5/10 --> 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service'
    02 --> 9.3/10 --> 'From Russia With Love'
    03 --> 9.0/10 --> 'Skyfall'
    04 --> 8.8/10 --> 'Casino Royale'
    05 --> 8.3/10 --> 'Thunderball'
    06 --> 8.0/10 --> 'Doctor No'

    Good films!:
    07 --> 7.7/10 --> 'SPECTRE' (NEW !!)
    08 --> 7.4/10 --> 'Octopussy'
    09 --> 7.4/10 --> 'For Your Eyes Only'
    10 --> 7.3/10 --> 'The Living Daylights'
    11 --> 7.1/10 --> 'Goldfinger'
    12 --> 7.0/10 --> 'Licence To Kill'

    Average films:
    13 --> 6.7/10 --> 'The World Is Not Enough'
    14 --> 6.5/10 --> 'The Man With The Golden Gun'
    15 --> 6.3/10 --> 'Quantum Of Solace'
    16 --> 6.1/10 --> 'The Spy Who Loved Me'
    17 --> 6.0/10 --> 'Diamonds Are Forever'
    18 --> 5.8/10 --> 'Moonraker'

    Fun stuff for us Bond fans, but as a standalone film bad and sometimes even stomach-turning!:
    19 --> 5.6/10 --> 'Live And Let Die'
    20 --> 5.5/10 --> 'Never Say Never Again' (non-EON)
    21 --> 4.8/10 --> 'Tomorrow Never Dies'
    22 --> 4.5/10 --> 'You Only Live Twice'
    23 --> 4.2/10 --> 'GoldenEye'
    24 --> 3.4/10 --> 'A View To A Kill'
    25 --> 2.8/10 --> 'Die Another Day'
    26 --> 1.2/10 --> 'Casino Royale' (non-EON)
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    For me SP will probably stay forever in 6th to 8th spot The film isn't a cultural, critical and financial phenomenon. But for me it's better than all of the four Brosnan films
    A TND smackdown for you my friend!
    :))
  • ForYourEyesOnlyForYourEyesOnly In the untained cradle of the heavens
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    The Spy Who Loved Me as an average film and below The Man With The Golden Gun and The World Is Not Enough? Damn. Heartbreaking.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    GoldenEye Bad!?!? :O I can only see one punishment for that...

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  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
    Posts: 2,252
    Mansfield wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    But sometimes the light is a long way off. MOONRAKER shook me for decades. That was the first time that a Bond film disappointed me. I went to the next ten or so with zero expectations. It was the Craig era that got me back into it. Now, here we are again.
    It's hard for me to fathom how you view Spectre with such little esteem. I've read a bit of your posts and the points you make are valid. Last place in the rankings is like a court marshall and I'm just not convinced there is enough "evidence" to sentence it to last. Your other bottom dwellers, Die Another Day and Moonraker, have a distinct breach in placing Bond in any semblance of reality.

    One of Spectre's biggest problems is how it attempts to identify itself as a serious character drama and a more playful picture. It's fair to say that the conflict in narrative leads to its failure to fully succeed in either quality. However, it doesn't break the mold in either direction too far, resulting in an unconventionally balanced tone. The balance doesn't come from an enlightening moment in the film, but rather the things that are thrown in the film even each other out. At worst it really only belongs as a middling title. If it's last in your rankings because the sum of its parts equates to zero, I wonder how you are able to process some of the exceedingly ridiculous things in those other films.

    Sadly I'm with Birdleson on this one. There are many (too many to list) moments of brilliance in Spectre (and Skyfall) but as a whole, I did not have fun with either. At least I have fun with some of the other poorer entries in the series. Moonraker, for example, is completely ludricrous, and for a long time I thought Gilbert ruined the franchise, but when I watched them again I found his three movies to be entertaining which covered up their flaws. Barry's (and Hamlisch) rich soundtracks for his movies gave me chills. I will also add here that I feel the PTS of Moonraker is given an unfair bashing. QoS and SF had CGI falls, MR had 80+ REAL skydives for that incredible sequence.

    I also felt in SF and SP that the action fell flat (apart from the SF PTS), which might have been ok, except the soundtrack offers zero atmosphere. I'm sorry but recycled parts of the SF soundtrack is unacceptable especially when the original track wasn't that good in the first place. Imagine if Barry used Dawn Raid on Fort Knox in the Thunderball finale.

    What I do love about both films is they are visually beautiful and this is the best dialogue we've had in ages. I love most of the interplay between the characters and the humour.

    Finally the bolded paragraph is what is so frustrating about Spectre. I don't mind it being half serious and half playful (I love Octopussy) but it's missing the spectacle of Gilbert, action of Glen, music of Barry, and pacing of Campbell.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Whoa. Any comparison to Gilbert is a big insult.
  • CraterGunsCraterGuns
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    01. Casino Royale (2006)
    02. Goldfinger
    03. From Russia With Love
    04. Skyfall
    05. The Living Daylights
    06. Spectre
    07. Thunderball
    08. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    09. The Spy Who Loved Me
    10. GoldenEye
    11. Licence to Kill
    12. Dr. No
    13. Quantum of Solace
    14. For Your Eyes Only
    15. Tomorrow Never Dies
    16. You Only Live Twice
    17. Live and Let Die
    18. The Man With the Golden Gun
    19. Diamonds Are Forever
    20. The World is Not Enough
    21. A View to a Kill
    22. Octopussy
    23. Moonraker
    24. Die Another Day
    .....
    25. Never Say Never Again
    26. Casino Royale (1967)
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    NSNA is better than DAD....at least it has Sean and a Fleming story.
  • ChampionAlonsoChampionAlonso
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    TB that low is mental. It's a top 5 almost perfect Bond film.
    I know it´s not a bad movie, but, in my opinion, it is the least entertaining oficial Bond movie, so many (and so long) underwater scenes bore me.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    suavejmf wrote: »
    NSNA is better than DAD....at least it has Sean and a Fleming story.

    Transformers is better than DAD.
  • dinovelvetdinovelvet
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    ChampionAlonso wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    TB that low is mental. It's a top 5 almost perfect Bond film.
    I know it´s not a bad movie, but, in my opinion, it is the least entertaining oficial Bond movie, so many (and so long) underwater scenes bore me.

    I agree with you. It just drags on. I like some bits and pieces of the film but as a whole I honestly don't enjoy it much.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,789
    Thunderfinger wrote: »

    Transformers is better than DAD.
    We must agree to disagree here....
    :))
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,108
    Birdleson wrote: »
    DIE ANOTHER DAY is a weak Bond entry, true,but there are still some things to love there. That TRANSFORMERS (a film I would never have seen if my nephews hadn't wanted to go, I guess it was 2007) is one of the three or four worst films that I have seen in my life.

    I agree.
    I suppose the other three are its sequels? ;)
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    Would I go to the sequels? On was that AVATAR piece of shit. I hate Cameron, yet I periodically get talked into going to see one of his abominations.
    The last thing Cameron directed that was great was the final episode of the Dark Angel series he was executive producing at the time. It made me forgive him for Titanic.
    :))
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    It was torture to sit through, alone I would have walked out 15 minutes in (as I often do), but I was with a friend who wanted to stay all the way through. Horrible.

    AWESOME! Fellow that agrees Cameron is big-time overrated! Avatar is a bad film indeed - one of the most overrated works ever made. So glad you also think this.
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
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    I didn't contribute to its "all time high" box office heist. Tried to watch it on television last year and couldn't even make it through to a commercial break.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    Birdleson wrote: »
    DIE ANOTHER DAY is a weak Bond entry, true,but there are still some things to love there. That TRANSFORMERS (a film I would never have seen if my nephews hadn't wanted to go, I guess it was 2007) is one of the three or four worst films that I have seen in my life.

    Its hard to tell the difference when Graves puts on that suit!!! Ha ha.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,462
    I am making some friends here :)) I also am glad to say I didn't see Avatar in the theater. If I have my way I'll never watch it again.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    HASEROT wrote: »
    i was literally dumbfounded by it's success.... and more over, i got sick of everyone calling Avatar such a "groundbreaking film"... i get it, from a technology stand point - in how they actually filmed the thing was pretty revolutionary - but 3D is old hat.. it's a gimmick... i might be wrong, but i don't see the current 3D being "the future of cinema" - it's a shallow cash grab, and if i heard correctly (again, could be wrong) but the number of 3D films being produced is going down year by year......

    It was a wonderful experience though. My first 3D film ever. And many comments were like "A true Efteling experience in cinema" (In case you don't know, 'The Efteling' is the critically acclaimed Dutch theme park that has won even more awards than the various Disney Resorts. Especially because of their amazing dark rides). I was completely overwhelmed by this film. Though many said the story was a bit too "Dances With Wolves" or "Star Trek: Insurrection", it worked tremendously because of the 3D experience. It actually made me think of our own planet....Because if a fantasy planet/moon can evoke such strong reactions, then you're being confronted equally with the beauty of our own planet Earth. So 3D is not just a cheap way of entertainment. With "Avatar" it was entirely used to give us a pure and very effective (sci-fi) message.
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    Not a fan of 3D. Ruined my experience of Mad Max.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited December 2015 Posts: 23,883
    AVATAR was a visual feast purely because of the novelty of the 3D technology. It had legs because of the word of mouth around that technology and how it had improved so much. Not really because the film was groundbreaking or anything like that. I caught it maybe over a month in because I just wanted to see what all the fuss was. I walked out of there thinking the technology was great and it showcased a poor film.

    Regarding DAD vs Transformers. It's a tough call. One has Halle. The other has Megan. I'll take Megan personally, but it's close.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Getafix wrote: »
    Not a fan of 3D. Ruined my experience of Mad Max.
    Agreed. I hate it with a passion.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited December 2015 Posts: 15,713
    HASEROT wrote: »
    i was literally dumbfounded by it's success.... and more over, i got sick of everyone calling Avatar such a "groundbreaking film"... i get it, from a technology stand point - in how they actually filmed the thing was pretty revolutionary - but 3D is old hat.. it's a gimmick... i might be wrong, but i don't see the current 3D being "the future of cinema" - it's a shallow cash grab, and if i heard correctly (again, could be wrong) but the number of 3D films being produced is going down year by year......

    Even if I look at 2009 alone, I can find more than 10 films I enjoyed a lot more than Avatar. I got a bigger kick from Moon, Fast and Furious 4, Transformers Revenge of the Fallen, Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince, Terminator Salvation, Star Trek, District 9.. and this is just in the sci-fi/action/blockbuster genre that Avatar is part of!

    IMO 'The Hurt Locker' is one of the best movies of all time for sole purpose that it got the Best Picture Oscar instead of Avatar.
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I wasn't going to adjust for awhile, but GE.

    1. GOLDFINGER (1964)
    2. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE (1963)
    3. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE (1969)
    4. CASINO ROYALE (2006)
    5. THE SPY WHO LOVED ME (1977)
    6. DR. NO (1962)
    7. LIVE AND LET DIE (1973)
    8. THUNDERBALL (1965)
    9. SKYFALL (2012)
    10. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE (1967)
    11. QUANTUM OF SOLACE (2008)
    12. GOLDENEYE (1996)
    13. LICENCE TO KILL (1989)
    14. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY (1981)
    15. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN (1974)
    16. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS (1987)
    17. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH (1997)
    18. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER (1971)
    19. A VIEW TO A KILL (1985)
    20. TOMORROW NEVER DIES (1997)
    21. OCTOPUSSY (1983)
    22. DIE ANOTHER DAY (2002)
    23. MOONRAKER (1979)
    24. SPECTRE (2015)




    Spectre the worst Bond ever... Wow
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    Although SPECTRE is not quite in last place for me, still in the bottom five, I can certainly see why someone would place it dead last.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
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    MayDayDiVicenzo wrote: »
    Although SPECTRE is not quite in last place for me, still in the bottom five, I can certainly see why someone would place it dead last.

    Let's torture you with a dentist drill :-).
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