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  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    timmer wrote: »
    I can see putting SP dead last. There's quite a lot.to quibble over if.
    It does have a rather heavy almost suffocating feel about it.
    You must have seen it at a theatre with a questionable digital projection system.
    :))
  • timmertimmer
    edited December 2015 Posts: 4,622
    chrisisall wrote: »
    timmer wrote: »
    I can see putting SP dead last. There's quite a lotto quibble over it
    It does have a rather heavy almost suffocating feel about it.
    You must have seen it at a theatre with a questionable digital projection system.

    Nooooooooo. I saw it in Imax twice. I am talking about from Tangiers forward. The movie seems very weighed down after that. It kind of lumbers along. Newman's operatic soundtrack doesn't help.

    ===As for Bond's snobbery. I am a Connery purist so I certainly understand the sentiment, but I don't think Craig's Bond is completely lost in that respect.
    Sure this angle may be understated with Craig's Bond, but I don't think its lost entirely.
    I think its there, but maybe more implied than flaunted.
    He certainly dresses real well, very expensively. He likes his expensive Aston Martins. He piped right up with the year and model number of Blofelds Rolls Royce.
    He wears the expensive watches.
    What I liked most about his Bond persona in SP, was that he captured both the aura of danger that Bond projects as well as Bond's relaxed manner and of course minus the personal baggage that he has been saddled with to varying degrees in his three previous films.
    Fleming's Bond was not without humour. In fact he was quite the smartass, especially in books like Goldfinger and the later stages of YOLT, but all the books are peppered with his quips.
    Bond is relentless in the digs he tosses at both Oddjob and Auric in GF.

    My favourite is " How's the agoraphobia Goldfinger?" as the two stroll down the wide open expanse of the golf course. GF the dullard, has no response to that.

    I thought Craig caught Bond's relaxed humour, that we find in both Fleming and the Connery films, as well as from the other actors, but the others, Moore especically, couldn't deliver with quite the same authority.
    It has to be in combo with the menace element as well.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    timmer wrote: »
    Nooooooooo. I saw it in Imax twice. I am talking about from Tangiers forward. The movie seems very weighed down after that. It kind of lumbers along. Newman's operatic soundtrack doesn't help.
    The pace does slow down some at that point, but not that badly for ME.

    Lemme just say that after Connery's first two & Dalton's two, I'm a lot more forgiving that no films will ever come as close.

  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited December 2015 Posts: 4,116
    @Birdleson, you and @gg are like diametrically opposed when it comes to SP.

    And that's fine ...respect opinion of both. Emotions just seem high with SP. I think we all want Bond to be Bond for all of us to enjoy.

    I'm in the middle of the road.. just going to wait until on BluRay.

    I just don't want to see anyone giving up on Bond :(.

  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
    Posts: 1,263
    It's hard to fault someone as well intentioned as @Birdleson. He's entitled to his opinion no less than we all are to form our own. The great thing about Bond is how it profoundly reflects Western cultural development. Diversity of opinion only enhances the quality of the franchise. With the exception of the deliberate and forceful opinion, it's a nice experience to learn about what it is people like and dislike about the films. It would be difficult to image a site like MI6 existing if that wealth of thought did not exist.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    edited December 2015 Posts: 12,473
    Why insult someone over something so silly? I don't know. I'd be surprised to see someone put Casino Royale last (my favorite), but I wouldn't be mad at them for it or insult them. I just don't get it.
  • ForYourEyesOnlyForYourEyesOnly In the untained cradle of the heavens
    Posts: 1,984
    For some reason, I have a feeling like that in about ten years or so, people will start viewing Spectre like Die Another Day.
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
    Posts: 1,263
    Every film in the franchise is bound to be someone's basement dweller. I'd like to think our discussions here are meaningful in some way to promote fluid opinions. Nothing is more unpleasant on here when there are static "conversations" that can only degenerate into derision. Even in disagreement, I like to be able to find some commonality or revelation that helps me appreciate a film I didn't previously enjoy.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
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    ForYourEyesOnly wrote: »
    For some reason, I have a feeling like that in about ten years or so, people will start viewing Spectre like Die Another Day.

    I don't think so.
  • ForYourEyesOnlyForYourEyesOnly In the untained cradle of the heavens
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    Well, I meant in terms of generally accepted quality where DAD is usually last. And it's strange because I reckon Spectre is within the top half of Bond flicks.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    ForYourEyesOnly wrote: »
    Well, I meant in terms of generally accepted quality where DAD is usually last. And it's strange because I reckon Spectre is within the top half of Bond flicks.

    Perhaps the atmosphere in here ? :P
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited December 2015 Posts: 23,883
    ForYourEyesOnly wrote: »
    For some reason, I have a feeling like that in about ten years or so, people will start viewing Spectre like Die Another Day.
    We're too early to know that imho.

    We'll have a better idea in about 6 months to a year where it sits. That position will hold unless there is a critical reassessment in time (which happened to OHMSS, & to a lesser extent QoS & LTK for the positive.........and DAD for the negative).
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,134
    I must admit I quite liked the hotel switch in QOS. It makes me appreciate QOS more. During my recent rewatches I liked the movie more than the other Craig movies. The opera scene is near brilliant.

    But, there is a difference between wearing expensive attire and knowing why you wear them. Hip hop stars wear expensive watches as well. An orange Lamborghini is expensive but it's as tasteless as you can get.

    The thing is not wearing expensive stuff, but knowing how to wear them.
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
    edited December 2015 Posts: 2,252
    Amended 2015 Bondathon Ranking

    1. The Living Daylights
    2. Octopussy
    3. Casino Royale
    4. From Russia with Love
    5. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    6. Goldeneye

    7. For Your Eyes Only
    8. The Spy Who Loved Me
    9. Tomorrow Never Dies
    10. Dr No
    11. Moonraker
    12. Diamonds Are Forever
    13. Licence to Kill

    14. You Only Live Twice
    15. A View To A Kill
    16. Goldfinger

    17. The Man with the Golden Gun (+2)
    18. Thunberball
    19. Die Another Day (+1)
    20. Live and Let Die (+1)

    21. Skyfall (+1)
    22. The World Is Not Enough (+1)
    23. Spectre (-6)
    24. Quantum of Solace

    After rewatching a few key scenes from TWINE I have concluded I like the action in TWINE (just the PTS alone is enough) is better than in Spectre.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    w2bond wrote: »
    Amended 2015 Bondathon Ranking

    1. The Living Daylights
    2. Octopussy
    3. Casino Royale
    4. From Russia with Love
    5. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    6. Goldeneye

    7. For Your Eyes Only
    8. The Spy Who Loved Me
    9. Tomorrow Never Dies
    10. Dr No
    11. Moonraker
    12. Diamonds Are Forever
    13. Licence to Kill

    14. You Only Live Twice
    15. A View To A Kill
    16. Goldfinger

    17. The Man with the Golden Gun (+2)
    18. Thunberball
    19. Die Another Day (+1)
    20. Live and Let Die (+1)

    21. Skyfall (+1)
    22. The World Is Not Enough (+1)
    23. Spectre (-6)
    24. Quantum of Solace

    After rewatching a few key scenes from TWINE I have concluded I like the action in TWINE (just the PTS alone is enough) is better than in Spectre.

    The past 8 years must have been hard for you :-S
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    @w2bond, nice mix of all the actors in your top 8. Interesting list.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    edited December 2015 Posts: 11,119
    Birdleson wrote: »
    @w2bond , I may be the only one on here that ranks SPECTRE lower than you do.

    Yet I have SKYFALL and QUANTUM OF SOLACE in my Top Ten.

    I just don't get that. Though I respect your choice. If you really have SP on 57th spot or lower, then this review would be applicable to your choice no :-)?
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2015/11/03/review-spectre-is-the-worst-007-movie-in-30-years/
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
    edited December 2015 Posts: 2,252
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    The past 8 years must have been hard for you :-S

    It's been underwhelming yes. The films have never looked or been acted better but they lack the fun factor of the old films. Even the usual bottom rankers (avtak, daf, dad) are fun. I don't like the retconning of Spectre, but it could've been forgiven if I was blown away by everything else.

    When they said classic Bond for Spectre, I didn't expect them to borrow so many elements from past movies. The bits that are original are immensely enjoyable. Q/Bond scenes in skyfall/Spectre, Boardroom scene, SF PTS.

    Plus everything in Spectre feels half-baked. The perfect example is the much hyped hypercar chase. Gadgets not working? It's funny, but come on give us something. The re-use of the score makes me want to cry - Newman's action cue is no "007 theme". On the other hand, the trailer music made me want to cry with joy.

    Another easy to explain example is, finally they put the gunbarrel at the front, but with a lazy wipe-effect blood drop and could they not have opened it on the skull?
    Birdleson wrote: »
    @w2bond , I may be the only one on here that ranks SPECTRE lower than you do.

    Yet I have SKYFALL and QUANTUM OF SOLACE in my Top Ten.

    I've been considering bottom place for Spectre. QoS at least has a good score (less said about AWTD the better), and is pretty beautiful too, just poorly edited.

    But despite my ranking, there's many isolated scenes I love in both SF and SP. I love Waltz's Blofeld, just wish they left Oberhauser and the scar out of it.
    bondjames wrote: »
    @w2bond, nice mix of all the actors in your top 8. Interesting list.

    I love all James Bonds equally :)>- regardless of what I think of the films they're in.
  • daltondalton
    Posts: 1,631
    Finally got around to seeing SPECTRE, so it's time for an update to the rankings.

    1. Licence to Kill
    2. From Russia With Love
    3. The Living Daylights
    4. Dr. No
    5. For Your Eyes Only
    6. Quantum of Solace
    7. SPECTRE
    8. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    9. Casino Royale
    10. Octopussy
    11. A View to a Kill
    12. Moonraker
    13. Skyfall
    14. GoldenEye
    15. The Spy Who Loved Me
    16. Thunderball
    17. Tomorrow Never Dies
    18. You Only Live Twice
    19. Goldfinger
    20. Never Say Never Again
    21. Diamonds are Forever
    22. The Man with the Golden Gun
    23. Live and Let Die
    24. The World Is Not Enough
    25. Die Another Day
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    dalton wrote: »
    Finally got around to seeing SPECTRE, so it's time for an update to the rankings.
    6. Quantum of Solace
    7. SPECTRE
    Interesting. I might end up with this order, but for right now SP is just above QOS....
    :-?
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    dalton wrote: »
    Finally got around to seeing SPECTRE, so it's time for an update to the rankings.

    1. Licence to Kill
    2. From Russia With Love
    3. The Living Daylights
    4. Dr. No
    5. For Your Eyes Only
    6. Quantum of Solace
    7. SPECTRE
    8. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    9. Casino Royale
    10. Octopussy
    11. A View to a Kill
    12. Moonraker
    13. Skyfall
    14. GoldenEye
    15. The Spy Who Loved Me
    16. Thunderball
    17. Tomorrow Never Dies
    18. You Only Live Twice
    19. Goldfinger
    20. Never Say Never Again
    21. Diamonds are Forever
    22. The Man with the Golden Gun
    23. Live and Let Die
    24. The World Is Not Enough
    25. Die Another Day

    "SPECTRE" is on #7 on my ranking too ;-).
  • timmertimmer
    edited December 2015 Posts: 4,622
    As mentioned elsewhere I have moved SP from standing only with the other re-boot/alt Bond films where it ranks #1, to inclusion with the original run of 20 films, as much of the time it does resemble a regular Bond film , but there is still that dark heavy Mendes tone dragging it down , as it lumbers along in parts, especially towards the end.

    But in deference to Craig's energetic performance as Bond, I think it only fitting to include it with the regular Bond films too.
    So we are making progress. This I think is a big step forward for the re-boot era. Bravo!

    So for now I have slipped it in at #20 just ahead of DAD.
    I can't in good conscience though move it ahead of any of the first 19 films.
    I quite enjoy all of those films with very little reservation.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,134
    After seeing Spectre, I just could not control myself and I watched all its predecessors again. Now that I've finished them all I've come to this ranking that possibly will last for quite some time:

    *****
    1. Thunderball
    2. The Living Daylights
    3. On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
    4. From Russia with Love
    5. Licence to Kill

    ****
    6. Goldfinger
    7. GoldenEye
    8. Casino Royale
    9. Quantum of Solace
    10. The Man with the Golden Gun

    ***
    11. The Spy Who Loved Me
    12. Dr. No
    13. Tomorrow Never Dies
    14. You Only Live Twice
    15. A View to a Kill

    **
    16. Spectre
    17. Skyfall
    18. For Your Eyes Only
    19. Diamonds Are Forever
    20. Octopussy
    21. The World Is Not Enough
    22. Live and Let Die

    *
    23. Moonraker
    24. Die Another Day
  • GoIdeneye007GoIdeneye007 USA
    Posts: 45
    *****
    1. Goldeneye
    2. Casino Royale
    3. Skyfall
    4. SPECTRE
    5. The Living Daylights
    6. The Spy Who Loved Me
    7. Goldfinger

    ****
    8. You Only Live Twice
    9. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    10. Thunderball
    11. Dr. No
    12. From Russia With Love

    ***
    13. Tomorrow Never Dies
    14. The Man with the Golden Gun
    15. Live and Let Die
    16. For Your Eyes Only
    17. The World is not Enough

    **
    18. Moonraker
    19. Octopussy
    20. Quantum of Solace
    21. License to Kill
    22. Diamonds are Forever

    *
    23. Die Another Day
    24. A View to a Kill
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,423
    That is a damn fine top six you have there @GoldenGun
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,134
    Thanks, mate ;)
  • Mathis1Mathis1
    Posts: 7,430
    Well, just back from my fifth, and definitely final time to see Spectre in the cinema (I was intending to go and see 'Black Mass', but at last minute I decided to go with Bond one more time!). Still great, and I'm warming more to the final section than I did! It still ranks at no. 7 for me, after OHMSS,TLD,CR,LTK,GF, and FRWL!
  • timmertimmer
    Posts: 4,622
    royale65 wrote: »
    That is a damn fine top six you have there @GoldenGun
    Top 4 he's a Campbell and Mendes fan

  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,801
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    Well, just back from my fifth, and definitely final time to see Spectre in the cinema (I was intending to go and see 'Black Mass', but at last minute I decided to go with Bond one more time!). Still great, and I'm warming more to the final section than I did! It still ranks at no. 7 for me, after OHMSS,TLD,CR,LTK,GF, and FRWL!

    What taste, style! :))
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    timmer wrote: »
    royale65 wrote: »
    That is a damn fine top six you have there @GoldenGun
    Top 4 he's a Campbell and Mendes fan

    You are mistaking the gun for the eye.
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