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The Underrated Thread

Perilagu_KhanPerilagu_Khan
edited October 2014 in Bond Movies Posts: 2,483
This is for most underrated among serious Bond fans.

Most Underrated Bond Film: DAF
Most Underrated Title Track: Goldeneye
Most Underrated Title Credits: LALD
Most Underrated PTS: Gun
Most Underrated Score: Gun
Most Underrated Villain: Stromberg (Spy)
Most Underrated Ally: Vijay (OP)
Most Underrated Bond Girl: Pam (LTK)
Most Underrated Minor Character: Morton Slumber (DAF)
Most Underrated Henchman: Irma Bunt (OHMSS)
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  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Moved to Bond Movies

    Most Underrated Bond Film: DN
    Most Underrated Title Track: Goldeneye
    Most Underrated Title Credits: DAF
    Most Underrated PTS: TMWTGG
    Most Underrated Score: TMWTGG
    Most Underrated Villain: Greene
    Most Underrated Ally: no opinion :-)
    Most Underrated Bond Girl: Corinne
    Most Underrated Minor Character: Klaus Hergesheimer (spelling?)
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited September 2013 Posts: 18,280
    Most Underrated Bond Film: QoS
    Most Underrated Title Track: Moonraker
    Most Underrated Title Credits: LALD
    Most Underrated PTS: DAF
    Most Underrated Score: TMWTGG
    Most Underrated Villain: Aris Kristatos (FYEO)
    Most Underrated Ally: Marc-Ange Draco (OHMSS)
    Most Underrated Bond Girl: Corrine Dufour
    Most Underrated Minor Character: Sir Godfrey Tibbett (AVTAK)
    Most Underrated Henchman: Elvis (QoS)
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    Posts: 12,837
    Film: TWINE
    Title Track: TWINE
    PTS: LTK
    Villain: Le Chiffre
    Ally: Vijay
    Girl: Pam

    Not sure about the rest.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,123
    Most underrated Bond film: TB, maybe QOS, maybe even DN
    Most underrated title track: let me think about it
    Most underrated title Credit: DN
    Most underrated PTS: TMWTGG
    Most underrated villain: Dominic Greene
    Most underrated ally: Colombo
    Most underrated Bond girl: Domino and Lupe Lamore
    Most underrated minor character: Kronsteen, Vargas
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    Most Underrated Bond Film: Tomorrow Never Dies
    Most Underrated Title Track: Goldeneye
    Most Underrated Title Credits: Licence to Kill
    Most Underrated PTS: DAD
    Most Underrated Score: GoldenEye
    Most Underrated Villain: Elliot Carver
    Most Underrated Ally: Lt. Hip
    Most Underrated Bond Girl: Pam
    Most Underrated Minor Character: Mark Ange Draco
    Most Underrated Henchman: Hans
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
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    Most Underrated Bond Film: FYEO
    Most Underrated Title Track: GE
    Most Underrated Title Credits: DN
    Most Underrated PTS: OHMSS
    Most Underrated Score: TSWLM
    Most Underrated Villain: Hugo Drax
    Most Underrated Ally: Saunders (TLD)
    Most Underrated Bond Girl: Melina Havelock (FYEO)
    Most Underrated Minor Character: Che Che (OHMSS)
    Most Underrated Henchman: Loque (FYEO)
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited September 2013 Posts: 13,355
    This is very difficult and I think my list is more of a least talked about elements that I enjoy, if that makes sense, rather than underrated. Anyway:

    Most Underrated Bond Film: Diamonds Are Forever
    Most Underrated Title Track: Licence To Kill
    Most Underrated Title Credits: Dr. No
    Most Underrated PTS: Live And Let Die
    Most Underrated Score: For Your Eyes Only
    Most Underrated Villain: Hugo Drax
    Most Underrated Ally: Paula
    Most Underrated Bond Girl: Pam
    Most Underrated Minor Character: Morton Slumber
    Most Underrated Henchman: Irma Bunt

    I think. Many choices could easily have a second option. You're making mw think @Perilagu_Khan!
  • StirredNotShakenStirredNotShaken Toronto
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    Most Underrated Bond Film: LTK, but probably not on these forums
    Most Underrated Title Track: YOLT
    Most Underrated Title Credits: FRWL, LTK
    Most Underrated PTS: TWINE
    Most Underrated Score: GoldenEye
    Most Underrated Villain: Koskov
    Most Underrated Ally: I never see Sharkey get any love
    Most Underrated Bond Girl: Anya Amasova. Bach isn't as bad as people like to say she is. The character herself is amazing, Bach is mediocre
    Most Underrated Minor Character: Paula (TB) got a bad deal having to take a back seat to TWO Bond girls, she doesn't get enough screentime, not even close, and Bond doesn't even sleep with her
    Most Underrated Henchman: Dr. Dent. How brilliantly portrayed by the excellent Anthony Dawson, largely forgotten save for his being Bond's first kill. Irma Bunt isn't underrated, she's quite beloved
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Great thread!

    Most Underrated Bond Film: TND
    Most Underrated Title Track: GE
    Most Underrated Title Credits: YOLT
    Most Underrated PTS: DAF
    Most Underrated Score: TMWTGG
    Most Underrated Villain: Elliot Carver
    Most Underrated Ally: Lt. Hip
    Most Underrated Bond Girl: Solitaire
    Most Underrated Minor Character: Klaus Hergesheimer (G Section)
    Most Underrated Henchman: Mr. Stamper
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    Posts: 6,396
    chrisisall wrote:
    Great thread!

    Most Underrated Bond Film: TND
    Most Underrated Title Track: GE
    Most Underrated Title Credits: YOLT
    Most Underrated PTS: DAF
    Most Underrated Score: TMWTGG
    Most Underrated Villain: Elliot Carver
    Most Underrated Ally: Lt. Hip
    Most Underrated Bond Girl: Solitaire
    Most Underrated Minor Character: Klaus Hergesheimer (G Section)
    Most Underrated Henchman: Mr. Stamper

    That's the best one yet =D>
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    WillyGalore wrote:
    That's the best one yet =D>
    Eh, Darth Dimi said it first. But thanks.
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    Posts: 6,396
    chrisisall wrote:
    WillyGalore wrote:
    That's the best one yet =D>
    Eh, Darth Dimi said it first. But thanks.

    Apologies to @Darth for that oversight ;-)
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    StirredNotShaken wrote:
    Most Underrated Villain: Koskov
    He was my first thought, but he gets a lot of *meh* while Elliot gets more akin to active dislike, hence my final choice.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    I was waiting for someone to say Klaus Hergesheimer but he's always talked about and loved so is this great small role underrated?
  • StirredNotShakenStirredNotShaken Toronto
    Posts: 2,402
    Koskov's always been a top ten villain for me. Krabbe's portrayal is absolutely perfect IMO. I find he often gets dismissed because of Whitaker being a dull piece of shit.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Samuel001 wrote:
    I was waiting for someone to say Klaus Hergesheimer but he's always talked about and loved so is this great small role underrated?
    Funny, outside of the occasional UFO talk I never hear him mentioned at all. At least not in the threads I've read.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,355
    He has a following, trust me!
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    edited September 2013 Posts: 17,800
    Samuel001 wrote:
    He has a following, trust me!
    If I knew that I would have picked Professor Joe Butcher. No, that wasn't exactly minor... I guess Morton Slumber then.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,123
    StirredNotShaken wrote:
    Most Underrated Bond Film: LTK, but probably not on these forums
    Most Underrated Title Track: YOLT
    Most Underrated Title Credits: FRWL, LTK
    Most Underrated PTS: TWINE
    Most Underrated Score: GoldenEye
    Most Underrated Villain: Koskov
    Most Underrated Ally: I never see Sharkey get any love
    Most Underrated Bond Girl: Anya Amasova. Bach isn't as bad as people like to say she is. The character herself is amazing, Bach is mediocre
    Most Underrated Minor Character: Paula (TB) got a bad deal having to take a back seat to TWO Bond girls, she doesn't get enough screentime, not even close, and Bond doesn't even sleep with her
    Most Underrated Henchman: Dr. Dent. How brilliantly portrayed by the excellent Anthony Dawson, largely forgotten save for his being Bond's first kill. Irma Bunt isn't underrated, she's quite beloved

    Oh how could I forget Paula! Actually, she took the back seat to three Bond girls. And of course Dent was a brilliant henchman, and not one that spawned any copy or clone afterwards: I don't remember any other henchman who works as an informant as a sideline to a real profession.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    StirredNotShaken wrote:
    Koskov's always been a top ten villain for me. Krabbe's portrayal is absolutely perfect IMO. I find he often gets dismissed because of Whitaker being a dull piece of shit.

    I always thought Koskov was badly written, but perfectly cast. With a better written role, he could have been Dalton's Blofeld, i.e. a recurring adversary. In a way, it was the production that "underrated" him, if that makes sense.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Ludovico wrote:
    StirredNotShaken wrote:
    Koskov's always been a top ten villain for me. Krabbe's portrayal is absolutely perfect IMO. I find he often gets dismissed because of Whitaker being a dull piece of shit.

    I always thought Koskov was badly written, but perfectly cast. With a better written role, he could have been Dalton's Blofeld, i.e. a recurring adversary. In a way, it was the production that "underrated" him, if that makes sense.

    A member on here once said that "the Cold War" itself was the real villain of TLD and that Brad Whitaker and General Georgi Koskov were merely agents of this state of being and were merely trying to benefit criminally from it. Necros the henchman provided the real menace. I tend to subscribe to this theory, whoever it was that thought it up.
  • PerdoggPerdogg
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    Most Underrated Bond Film: Octopussy
    Most Underrated Title Track: All Time High
    Most Underrated Title Credits: You Only Live Twice
    Most Underrated PTS: Tomorrow Never Dies
    Most Underrated Score: QoS
    Most Underrated Villain: Kristatos
    Most Underrated Ally: Valentin Zukovsky
    Most Underrated Bond Girl: Lois Chiles
    Most Underrated Minor Character: Bibi Dahl
    Most Underrated Henchman: Kriegler
  • Perilagu_KhanPerilagu_Khan
    Posts: 2,483
    chrisisall wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    I was waiting for someone to say Klaus Hergesheimer but he's always talked about and loved so is this great small role underrated?
    Funny, outside of the occasional UFO talk I never hear him mentioned at all. At least not in the threads I've read.

    Back in the old KTBEU days old Hergy was one of the most beloved characters of all. Don't know if that's still the case.

  • Perilagu_KhanPerilagu_Khan
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    chrisisall wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    He has a following, trust me!
    If I knew that I would have picked Professor Joe Butcher. No, that wasn't exactly minor... I guess Morton Slumber then.

    Heh. I love Professor Joe. Also gave Truman-Lodge serious consideration for most underrated henchman, but Bunt is so terrific and so overlooked that I had to plump for her.

  • Perilagu_KhanPerilagu_Khan
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    Ludovico wrote:
    StirredNotShaken wrote:
    Koskov's always been a top ten villain for me. Krabbe's portrayal is absolutely perfect IMO. I find he often gets dismissed because of Whitaker being a dull piece of shit.

    I always thought Koskov was badly written, but perfectly cast. With a better written role, he could have been Dalton's Blofeld, i.e. a recurring adversary. In a way, it was the production that "underrated" him, if that makes sense.

    I can pretty much go along with that. Krabbe is a heck of an actor, but Koskov is a bit too loveable to be a really good Bond villain.

  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Perilagu_Khan wrote:
    Koskov is a bit too loveable to be a really good Bond villain.
    LOL, I hated his guts.
  • Perilagu_KhanPerilagu_Khan
    Posts: 2,483
    chrisisall wrote:
    Perilagu_Khan wrote:
    Koskov is a bit too loveable to be a really good Bond villain.
    LOL, I hated his guts.

    You're a hard man, Chris. ;)

  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Perilagu_Khan wrote:
    Heh. I love Professor Joe.
    Wayne Newton was perfect in the role, his slime just oozed. I see lots of negativity about him in the film, like he ruined it or something- quite the opposite IMO- he added to the "I wanna see these guys LOSE" factor.
  • Perilagu_KhanPerilagu_Khan
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    chrisisall wrote:
    Perilagu_Khan wrote:
    Heh. I love Professor Joe.
    Wayne Newton was perfect in the role, his slime just oozed. I see lots of negativity about him in the film, like he ruined it or something- quite the opposite IMO- he added to the "I wanna see these guys LOSE" factor.

    Yeah, he was terrific. LTK has many excellent minor characters. In that respect it resembles DAF.

  • StirredNotShakenStirredNotShaken Toronto
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    Ahh damn! Change my most underrated film to Octopussy and most underrated minor character to Prof. Joe! LTK has started to get the praise it deserves whereas E! or some other crap website ranked OP as the worst Bond film ever, a sentiment I've seen oft-repeated.

    And Prof. Joe is awesome. Guy's an absolute slimeball and you're rooting for Bond to just sigh and shoot him Indy style. Fantastically played by Newton. Every time we get that last shot of him shouting "Bless your heart!" I jump out of my seat and go "BLESS YOUR HEART TOO, WAYNE NEWTON!"
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