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chrisisall
Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
The negative Bond. The weary Bond. The angry Bond.
The Bond you wouldn't want to have a pint with.
Dark Bond has had mixed success in the movies.
FRWL (reasonably dark for the time IMO) was successful, but OHMSS less so.
TLD did well, but LTK less so.
CR was a hit, QOS not as much (Okay, so some narrative quality issues there),
BUT,
Big surprise- SF a really BIG hit despite some of the arguably darkest moments in the entire series.
So my questions are, is there a type of motion picture Bond you prefer (near burnt-out, professional agent, super spy), or do you like a spread of types, and,
has the general movie-going/renting public grown up enough to accept a darker, more literary Bond for long? If the next movie is very serious and not an easily accessible adventure with many comedic moments will it be the hit SF was?
The Bond you wouldn't want to have a pint with.
Dark Bond has had mixed success in the movies.
FRWL (reasonably dark for the time IMO) was successful, but OHMSS less so.
TLD did well, but LTK less so.
CR was a hit, QOS not as much (Okay, so some narrative quality issues there),
BUT,
Big surprise- SF a really BIG hit despite some of the arguably darkest moments in the entire series.
So my questions are, is there a type of motion picture Bond you prefer (near burnt-out, professional agent, super spy), or do you like a spread of types, and,
has the general movie-going/renting public grown up enough to accept a darker, more literary Bond for long? If the next movie is very serious and not an easily accessible adventure with many comedic moments will it be the hit SF was?
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Sean of course did all of it during his tenure. And the other Bonds, apart from one, picked aspects of Sean's performances and sometimes exaggerated their quirks; comedy, toughness, darkness, camp, uber cool, sophisticated, charming etc.
Timothy was his own man, and Daniel has channeled his Connery's Bond.
The next film as DC wants is going to be lighter, however the director is going to make it artsy fartsy again and make Bond a moody teenager. I wish they let him grow up go through puberty and let him have a bit of fun without camping it up Roger style.
From Russia With Love has been DC's goal from the beginning - that's what I've been waiting for and that's what DC has been waiting for.
Smell my feet.
The super spy version as played in GF, TB, most of Moore's tenure and tthe preponderance of TND is all great fun, though, and cannot be easily dismissed by me.
@Perdogg I would posit that your Nolan comparison is rubbish as Bond was there first, and his Batman is mimicking dark Bond, not the other way around.
I think each Bond film changes the mood of the character and his world somewhat to fit the time it is released in, and understandably so. The Bond of the early '60s was still fighting the Cold War, but a few years later that war had thawed considerably. The Bond of the '70s was selling fantasy adventure to a fairly carefree audience. Today's Bond has to satisfy an audience that has seen a far darker world than that of the '70s. I have enjoyed 2/3 of Craig's Bond offerings so far, and I see no reason to expect otherwise from the next one. One thing I'm NOT going to do is judge the movie before I've seen it. I highly recommend the same course to the rest of you...
2/3 out of 3 is a good score IMO.
Where is Bond himself consistently negative other than LTK and QoS? In TLD he "snaps out" of that moment fairly quickly, and OHMSS and CR only have dark endings.
Are you sure about that? Because its Maibaum and MGW who get the credit.
The line from the short story is a little different: "With any luck, it'll cost me my Double-0 number."
Agreed. I'm uncertain of how the film overall will hold up in future for me, though I doubt it'll ever leave my top ten thanks to Craig's performance. I still think he was probably better in CR but that's probably because CR is a direct Fleming adaptation.
Yes, though Skyfall was pretty Flemingesque too, while not being taken from any particular novel per se, the YOLT and TMWTGG aspects of the plot quite aside.
Obviously, I have to stop relying on my faulty memory and actually pick up the books more often in moments like these! Thanks for the correction, @Wizard and @chris. Still, Bond's attitude is the real issue here -- and in this matter, Fleming's Bond and Dalton's Bond are pretty much in accord!
I'm with you foursquare. But the humor of Fleming's Bond is an overlooked element of the character. No, he was never like Rog in MR, but he did have a good sensayuma. I'd hate to see cinematic Bond descend totally into the sour and dour.
They may have flirted with it, but humourless is on the way out again, so no worries.
Craig's Bond is blonder than Dalton's. Also, he does a LOT more running...which is why Craig's Bond doesn't smoke. Aside from that, they're quite similar.
Sorry to cut this response short...but I've got to compose my TLD review for the "Original Fans" topic thread tonight. See you there!
Now that's a nasty little set of initials for a username, @chrisisall - did Elliot Carver pay you to do that?!
The man from Ag & Fish needs to have a look into this member methinks.
I agree. Just keep it from the Frogs and we should be OK.
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Find his solace, re-meet Camile and water thing/return of Quantum. As said before Bond 24 and mabey Bond 25 too, Ian Fleming name should not be credit in the maintitle,insteed the producer should be named earlier before the gunbarrel.
BSE stands for Bovine spongiform encephalopathy and is better known as Mad Cow Disease. See here for more details:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_spongiform_encephalopathy
Elliot Carver mentions the BSE scandal in TND in his first scene, you may recall.
Hope this helps explain my lead balloon joke.
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Unless of course you are a French Farmer they used to call it JCB named after the plant that they used to dig the holes in the ground where they dumped the fallen stock!!.