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Tamahori was a proper imbecile.
Prices start at 5k for a starring role of 5 mins screen time with a torture implement of your choice.
This is starting to go worryingly dark... ;)
@Ludovico I fully concur with your character assessment of Tamahori, in fact I couldn't of put it better myself.
I'll start splashing on the petrol at that point and see how gobby she is when I casually toss a fag end at her like Malkovitch in Con Air.
'Sayonara'
I was a fan of her until she started talking.
No more sinking houses in Venice, No more airplane CGI sequences with NO-parachute jump..... ;)
That is a whole different discussion. ;)
But that actionscene was excessive when you have two talented actors like Craig & Green, her demise was not so powerfull and should have been the centrepiece of the ending. It would have made CR for me an almost brilliant movie. Now it just did what the previous movies did do: OTT.
QoS was a collection of actionscenes borrowed from other movies who did do them better, especially the Bourne movies. They were OTT and served mostly no purpose or were very badly edited.
Anyway back on topic: reading the interview with P&W, I fail to see how a character that was introduced in the most ridiculously OTT and scifi ridden Bond movie could work plausibly in a more grounded, realistic environment. Might as well ditch Jinx and write the script using a different character altogether, unrelated to Bond. Or adapt Queen & Country, which is what Hollywood is planning to do now, it seems.
I think this was what the plan with Jinx was. Ditch the character set up in DAD and make a new spy series with Halle Berry with the character maintaining the name only.
I think the film would have been more like CR as it would likely have made Jinx's personal story more interesting and central to the film itself. I think it's clear that after DAD the prods were getting fatigue with the Bond stories and wanted a break and I imagine a more-stripped back espionage flick starring Halle Berry was on their mind. When they were told to focus their attention back on 007 it was clear that EON had fruitless meetings with the writers trying to crack Brosnan's 5th movie before realising that creatively it was not what they wanted to do. Michael and Barbara wanted to make something more akin to the stripped-back Jinx film they were developing and from this CR was born. In many ways we should be thankful that the Jinx film was even on the cards otherwise Daniel Craig and Casino Royale may never have come about.
What are you event talking about? The facts are all there.
- Wilson and Broccoli wanted to make a more stripped back film after dealing with the increasingly bloated Brosnan era.
- They felt they found a possible vehicle in a Jinx spinoff. They wanted to do a mid-size action movie opposed to another big-budget Bond entry. I guess they wanted to free themselves of the Bond formula and try something new.
- I think they viewed Jinx as a palette- cleanser as EON were jaded and fed-up with the Bond character after the creative disappointment of DAD.
- When MGM shut Jinx down EON were angry. But instead of pursuing the film at another studio they focussed their attention back to Bond but tackled the film from a similar approach as they had previously been doing with the Jinx project.
This thread was supposed to be about collecting the morsels of information about what the Jinx movie would have been. Instead it's become yet another generic DAD hate thread. You lot are really unoriginal.
If you haven't already got the CR Deluxe Edition get it, because on it a lot is explained.
EON state that they had fatigue after DAD and wanted to try something new and that was 'Jinx'. It was less 'switching flagships' and more about them taking an experiment and a chance on something new.
I am not saying you are lying, but until I see/hear the specific statement, I remain skeptical.
And even if it was the case and EON wanted to try something new with Jinx, this was then a very poor idea: what potential the character had at all? She was a Bond girl that was written as a woman of action, but played by and looking like a supermodel (regardless of her acting skills) and whose entry was aped from THE classic Bond girl entry. They wanted to go realistic with that? Jinx was not believable as a professional spy with a license to kill, she could have sort of been accepted as such in a pure fantasy setting, but in a more realistic one? She was not remotely realistic to begin with! If they were to go the other route from DAD, then why use a by product of DAD?
And if they were to ditch everything DAD and Bond and just take her name and the actress... Why make her Jinx at all? Catwoman was a turkey, but at least they had enough intelligence to use a household name, the name of a character that was recognized and associated with feminine independence, mystery and moral ambiguity. They also decided to ditch everything Batman, but at least the character had potential and the name had appeal. But Jinx was at best the name of that Bond girl played by Halle Berry. I can't see much potential in it. And who was enthusiastic about her? Halle Berry herself, Tamahori, who had done the dreaded DAD and maybe Purvis and Wade.
That actually sounds like it could work.
If only they lived long enough to be in Moonraker! $-)
Yes and that is something that I fear very much, @saunders.
- Jinx would have worked for a think-tank, ride a motorbike and do "odd jobs for the NSA".
- Jinx would have a lover called Javier, whom Javier Bardem was sought to play.
- There would be shoot-up in a Moroccoan tannery.
- P&W describe it as a "down and dirty version of a Bond movie"
- It would have been an "atmospheric, Euro-thriller", akin to the Bourne films.
- Tamahori wanted to direct but Stephen Frears agreed because he "loved Halle".
- It would have been a $80-90m production
- The script is described a being a bridge to what eventually became CR
Priceless. I can almost taste that tense atmosphere as Jinx sneaks round the dark foreboding alleys of Prague or Bratislava.