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Why Do People Think Blofeld is Coming Back?
I'm really curious as to why so many people here consider this is a done deal or even a possibility. Did I miss something? How do we even know he exists? SMERSH doesn't. The Cold War has been over for decades and this is not retro Bond. SPECTRE has pretty much been replaced by Quantum so we don't know that they even exist. I know this isn't necessarily an alternate universe here with the rebooted timeline, but having Blofeld be involved... it doesn't seem to me like it will ever happen or should ever happen.
Make a case for his inclusion.
Make a case for his inclusion.
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For the record I don't think he's coming back, I also agree that Quantum should be used first, that said I wouldn't rule it out.
Oh god my sides!
Of course this is sometime off and everything we now hear or read regarding it is pure speculation, but Babs and MGW won't be oblivious to the attention and interest in this character and I would happily put money on the return, at some date, of Ernst Stavro.
Blofeld is just a relic now.
So was the Aston Martin DB5, but how the general public cheered when it appeared in every cinema screening of SF that I went to, 60's nostalgia is a powerful force in selling these films and Blofeld is very much an icon of that era.
You could apply the same logic to General Zod. Most of the movie going public identify Lex Luthor being the main villain in Superman but Zod was very well received by audiences in Man of Steel.
But only Bond and his supporting characters were rebooted. Not his villains. That's like saying. Bond 24 is going to be Dr No 2. or someone said in another thread that since DAD was the 40th anniversary film it would be like, Dr No coming back from the dead and make Graves the henchmen. It wouldn't work out too well.
Let's just introduce a new head to Quantum and finish out/continue the storyline so Craig has another shot at them.
http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/1760/so-whos-going-to-play-ernst-in-bond-24-and-bond-25
http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/4410/is-benedict-cumberbatch-being-considered-to-play-blofeld
http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/1488/bond-23-the-return-of-blofeld
http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/1505/is-blofeld-back-in-bond-23s-two-weeks-rehearsal-time
http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/545/michael-sheen-has-fun-with-blofeld-rumours-in-tv-sketch
http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/4597/why-blofeld-is-the-best-villain-for-a-modern-bond-film-and-should-be-in-bond-24
http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/4107/if-blofeld-were-to-return-to-the-modern-bond-films...who-would-play-him-well
http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/1528/what-if...........-mr-white-turns-out-to-be-blofeld
Or perhaps some of these above just need a damn good merging? I'll let someone with more sense than me decide. Whatever is decided, this character is one hot topic!
Not his villains yet. If there is one villain that needs a reboot it is Blofeld. And the fact that the character from the source material has not been properly adapted yet (only fragments of the movies' Blofeld were akin and worthy to the novels', basically FRWL, TB and OHMSS). Like Saunders said, he is Bond's Moriarty. If no Blofeld, then a Blofeld-like character. Heck, I'd be happy to see a modern take on General Grubozaboischikov and I'd settle for him. But I would love to see Blofeld return, providing it is done properly: perfect puritan, ruthless criminal with a staunch work ethic. Older than Bond, more experienced, resourceful and also more intelligent. And able to stand his ground on a fist fight against a 00. And perfectly cast, which is maybe the biggest obstacle to his return.Maybe not for the rest of Craig's tenure, I do think the Quantum arc needs to be finished, but if they need a hook for the tenure of his successor, then Blofeld would most definitely be the way to go IMO. P
Oh and I am the one who did the Dr No analogy with DAD. But this was a completely different argument: I was saying putting Dr No in DAD would not have made the movie any better, that would have been a lousy idea, in the context. But Dr. No as a character (and a movie) was done to perfection by Joseph Wiseman. Blofeld has only been done in fragments, as I said. And also turned into a caricature. His voice was done to perfection by Erich Pohlmann, Savalas was a capable "physical" Blofeld, but even he lacked something that made Blofeld so great in the novels. Like Heath Ledger redefined the Joker, I think you can find the definitive interpretation of Blofeld.
Now, regarding my personal wishes, I'm not looking forward in the short term. It's more fun to have new adversaries.
Why not bring him back and use one of the novels as the inspiration? Why not have him be the head of Quantum? There are lots of directions they could take.
It doesn't have to be a bald bloke with a white cat and he doesn't have to bring SPECTRE with him.
Both of those latter suggestions will just concoct confusion with fans, such as how he is a leader of one organization in past films and now a leader of another, or why he used to be bald with his white cat and whatnot, and now he has a completely different appearance. Things like that will just add ridiculous debates when they could go with a brand new supervillain.
Sarcasm by the way.
It didn't confuse fans when Joker turned up in The Dark Knight did it?
Thanks 007 Legends. :)
But there haven't been (from what I've seen, anyway) discussions on the different universes just like the famous "is 007 a code name or is he always the same man?" thing. I just feel the latter will get more confusing for people who question that if Blofeld returns. But, as a reboot, I suppose I wouldn't see why not, I'd just prefer someone new and fresh.
Exactly. And outside the fan community, who knows who Blofeld is? And, and, AND Blofeld had very different appearances in the original continuity.
Believe me, I had to explain to many moviegoers that the Batman of Nolan was NOT the Batman of the same continuity as Burton's movies. Moviegoers get confused no matter how clear things are, how much the director, scriptwriter, actors and whole production spell it out.
Well, for the record I DO want Quantum to be featured again. But I also do hope Blofeld returns. In the novels, SPECTRE took over SMERSH and USSR as recurring adversary, then when Blofeld died, the East became the Enemy again. Recurring adversaries are good, if done properly. They are resilient, they allow for more continuity, they also bring a kind of menace that stand alone adversaries do not. And every hero needs his nemesis. Blofeld happens to be Bond's. And as he was dispatched rather frustratingly, a shadow of himself in the former continuity, why not give him justice?
But yes, by all means, let's finish the Quantum ark first.
Oh I do want Quantum to return. Proper retribution needs to be done for Vesper's blackmail and their crimes.
Personally, I'd rather not see him again. While Quantum was no doubt influenced by SPECTRE, bringing Blofled back would really make Quantum a cheap, pale imitation of the original. I've seen enough of Blofled. Let's take a new path, shall we?
I agree with this. QUANTUM needs to be finished before we jump into rebooting old villains that only the hardcore fans care about. It's been 30 years since we last saw the Blofeld character, and 40 since his name was even mentioned (and please don't bring NSNA into this, only a fraction of the hardcore fraction even likes this film, yet alone the masses), so just bringing him back out of left field is at best ill advised without plenty of advance publicity that EON doesn't easily give away. QUANTUM is the organization more familiar to the general public, and as much as some would like to pretend that no one cared enough about QOS and that the idea is broke, the public does remember and would want a logical conclusion before moving on. I know Logan is well aware of Blofeld and has mentioned that he likes the idea of renewing their feud, so the idea of his return isn't dead and I think that as well that some sense of nostalgia is also driving the idea. The best chance for reviving him is not going to be cold, it needs to be done in the context of QUANTUM to have it's best chance of success, as well as an actor willing to reprise the role. People prefer continuity to the revolving door that hurt the concept the first time around.