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  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    It seems like I do, @chrisisall. Or maybe because nearly every Bond girls are older than me :D
    My friend, once you become older than the current Bond girls you will know you are not a kid anymore.... :))
    That happened to me around Tim's reign.... :-O

    I'm safe concerning Bellucci... :))

    Yes, me too. Thank God for MB!
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    Robert Carlyle- He gets his fair share of recognition over here but outside the UK he doesn't seem to get much praise even though he's brilliant. He's also one of the few actors who really blends into every part, he's a cameleon, you never think "oh look it's Robert Carlyle" when you're watching him. He's also really varied and he pulls off pretty much every role, whether he's a laid off factory worker turned stripper or a Russian terrorist who's fallen in love with the girl he captured. I think he's one of the best actors of all time.


    Robert Carlyle is practically a household name in the States these days, due to his role on "ONCE UPON A TIME". Actually, I would love to see him portray a Bond villain right now.
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    Household name seems a stretch. I live in the US and have never heard of ONCE UPON A TIME. I think it depends on your age group and region and other factors. I'v elided the guy since TRAINSPOTTING, which was pretty big in America, as was THE FULL MONTY. Both were huge here and critically haled.

    Okay . . . so you've never seen "ONCE UPON A TIME" before. Despite the fact that it has been one of the top shows on TV since its debut in October 2011. However . . . Carlyle is a big name in the States these days, along with the rest of the main cast for "ONCE UPON A TIME". I'm not exaggerating.
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    The Honey Ryder homage in DAD was very stupid IMO but in all fairness from the neck down Jinx has a killer body. Lets hope she doesn't go Vampire mode in real life during the act like she did on poor old Brozza.

    Not as stupid as the one in Casino Royale thats for sure!

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    Agreed.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    A very annoying thing in both the DAD and CR version is the OTT moment in the soundtrack from Arnold who felt the need to shove the epicness of the scenes down my throat. The original DN scene didn't need any music to become one of the most iconic moments in the entire franchise.
  • They have been showing the Bond films each week on the UK's ITV channel, as they always do when Sky doesn't have them.

    Say what you like about The Man With The Golden Gun, but it is Moore's last youthful Bond. At times he looks in his late 30s, as young as Fleming's character. That and a youthful villain, and the dynamic is not unlike that of a Craig film. However, within three years he's aged a decade and could only really pass for late 40s in The Spy Who Loved Me. This went unnoticed at the time as those surrounding him - Bernard Lee, Desmond Llewellyn and so on have got older too, and Curt Jurgens is white haired.

    As if aware of this, Moore seems to be looking to David Niven for inspiration, and he certainly had that charming ageing playboy vibe in The Pink Panther. While with his first two films I can only imagine Connery saying many of the lines better, in this one I can imagine Niven doing it better, in particular his dialogue with Barbara Bach. That said, Moore does come across as a bit sleazy; Niven was like Macnee in that he was very much the gentleman, though he was a philanderer in real life. All the same, though he no longer looks young, this is a real movie star performance from Moore and he is at ease on the big screen.

    The film gets in credit early on with, personal preferences aside, the best PTS of the series followed by the best song. You then get arguably the best henchman, best car, best villain hq x 2. Perhaps we have Kevin McClory to thank, as his mooted Thunderball remake encouraged EON to up its game and deliver an all out water-based Bond classic that would outflank any Warhead. And they succeeded, not least to the inspired addition of KGB agent Triple X. That said, though she is meant to be as smart as Bond, despite this or because of it, Moore's Bond is just as sexist, though maybe this was forgiveable at the time because the KGB and Soviet Russia were very much the enemy back then, and with good reason, so Bond's obnoxiousness was based on that.

    For all that, I do find the movie a bit flat. Not sure why. It could be because Moore is a flat actor still, so is Bach and so is Jurgens, who never livens the film up or delivers anything other than a standard performance. Kiel, however, is genuinely frightening and Bach is genuinely erotic, which lends the film a stirringly visceral and tacky Hammer horror exploitation feel to it. Generally, if I tune into this film after the great pts and song, I do find it hard to warm to.
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    A very annoying thing in both the DAD and CR version is the OTT moment in the soundtrack from Arnold who felt the need to shove the epicness of the scenes down my throat. The original DN scene didn't need any music to become one of the most iconic moments in the entire franchise.

    Thats true now you mention it.

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    TLD, jeez I forgot how much I liked the film and loved the soundtrack! :-bd
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    Another supporter of the TLD soundtrack, jump aboard! :D
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    RogueAgent wrote: »
    TLD, jeez I forgot how much I liked the film and loved the soundtrack! :-bd
    It's sublime in Blu Ray!
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    I think Bond still has a bit of an edge in TSWLM. Killing Sandor etc.
  • imranbecksimranbecks Singapore
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    I've just finished watching Skyfall. First time watching it in a long time since I last saw it in 2012. Had a marathon of Daniel Craig's Bond movies beginning with CR.. He aged really quickly though in between movies..lol.. And I think his best performance is in Skyfall.... His mannerisms, very Bond.. And Javier nailed it as Silva. Disliked how quickly the Severine died though, or the way she died for that matter...
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    Watched some of DAF the past few nights. I've always had a soft spot for it, but it is very hard to picture Sean as being the same agent from DN-YOLT
  • imranbecksimranbecks Singapore
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    I agree.. Connery seemed very awkward in DAF. It was almost like a stint. A very period. Connery left, a new Bond actor took over by the name of Lazenby, only to have him leave after his only Bond movie. And then Connery came back for the next one, then gone again..... Oh the politics...lol
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Just finished watching DN. 2nd time I've seen it recently, and I must say I enjoyed it even more this time. I rarely, if ever, idolise people, but Connery in this film deserves to be. The guy just oozes charm, charisma, suaveness and sophistication. In a few occasions in the film he just stands there, even sits down and gives commands to other characters, and they immediately comply! I used to put his performance in TB as one of the coolest, masculine and self confident in the entire cinematic history, but his DN one has greatly improved for me and I would now put it at the same level in terms of pure badassery and self confidence. The only aspect of DN I can not stand is the soundtrack. It's the only Bond film where I don't like the score. However the songs heard in the film (Mango Tree, Jump Up) are quite good. It's the rest that I find appalling. It's incredible that for a Bond film that has almost no action scenes, the whole duration of it is just an endless string of interesting scenes. There is not one scene I would remove from it.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    Even though it moved up to the #19 (from 21) spot in my latest rankings, I don't think I will ever understand the love for OCTOPUSSY on here. It seem sot get a pass for things that other Bond films are vilified for. But I've beaten that drum enough.

    Totally agree. I went as far as saying I prefer NSNA (the competing 1983 Bond) for this very reason. Vijay playing the Bond theme on a flute to signal Bond over? So he knows he has a theme???
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    Watched Gun Friday night. Underrated Bond film. Amusing, fun and well endowed with the Bond "feel."
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    Watched LTK yesterday, such a shame TD did not get the chance to do more.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    After having such a blast with DN earlier, I've put on FRWL. Much to my amazement, DN is now very close to the greatness of FRWL. While the film itself is better, thanks a lot to a wonderful plot and Barry's immense contribution, Connery has already lost a (little) bit of his magic and sheer badassery of DN. By no means is this a complaint, but he made such a commanding performance in DN that isn't totally replicated here. The entire sequence on the Orient Express is getting better each time I watch it. The confrontation with Grant is just 2 absolute legends coming face to face with a battle of pure wits, and ends with the best fist fight, bar none, of the entire franchise.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    After having such a blast with DN earlier, I've put on FRWL. Much to my amazement, DN is now very close to the greatness of FRWL. While the film itself is better, thanks a lot to a wonderful plot and Barry's immense contribution, Connery has already lost a (little) bit of his magic and sheer badassery of DN. By no means is this a complaint, but he made such a commanding performance in DN that isn't totally replicated here. The entire sequence on the Orient Express is getting better each time I watch it. The confrontation with Grant is just 2 absolute legends coming face to face with a battle of pure wits, and ends with the best fist fight, bar none, of the entire franchise.

    I have to agree, Connery's first two films are his best. They descend in quality from there on.

    Last one I saw was Tomorrow never dies. Atrocious.
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    I enjoy TMWTGG but I find the shitty action, weak Bond girl, and misuse of its villain enough to keep it towards the bottom of the Bond films in terms of quality.

    Moore is great in it, though, as is Lee. And that ship MI6 base is my favorite of the "mobile HQs" in the series, by far.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    I had nothing to do tonight so I put on GF and TB too.

    It is now very clear to me that Connery reached his peak with DN and FRWL. GF is a big step back for him. I had never noticed this before but Connery looks weird in the PTS when he's pouring the nitroglicerin on the heroine. It's maybe the lighting of his haircut but he doesn't look at all like the alpha male I saw in the previous 2 films. I also think some scenes and actions are contrary to Connery's Bond. When he looks full of fear when he's strapped on the table with the laser, for instant. I am not saying Bond would never show fear, but in FRWL when he was on his knees and was facing certain death from Grant, he stayed calm and kept trying to anger Grant. There was not an ounce of resignation or even fear in him, he was going to go down with a fight and his honour intact. Also, when he gives his name to Tilly and she cuts him first. Firstly, Bond in DN and FRWL just oozes sophistication and suaveness, and shoving his name like that felt force and not very cool. Secondly, if anyone, let alone a woman, had cut off Bond's sentence in DN/FRWL would have been beaten to a pulp. We are talking about a Bond which even while sitting down can give orders to people and they'd comply immediately. I also wonder what on earth does Guy Hamilton have against car chases? In the one at Auric's factory he puts an old lady firing a machine gun, and in the 2nd half he has the most useless car chase ever seen on film where Oddjob takes Solo for a spin, only to kill him in a death so elaborate it actually felt retarded, only to take him back to Auric's farm. Couldn't they just have killed him with the other gansgters and avoid all of this? This same Hamilton who directed DAF with the mose famous goof in the entire franchise (car on wrong wheels), and then in TMWTGG he has an epic stunt, only to put a slide whistle sound effect on it, which made the stunt laughable for almost everyone. And the whole plot made no sense at the end. If I understand well, Connery seduced Pussy Galore, that made her switch the gas cannisters. Now, Felix Leiter tells Bond 'what made her change the cannisters', and Bond reacts as if he didn't know his seducing had worked. Now, if he didn't know, he then didn't tell Felix the cannisters were changed, so why on earth did the entire armed force fell asleep? Surely they expected the lethal gas, but if it was 'harmless', why did they fake to pass out? This whole scene was epic the first time I saw it as a kid, but as I grow older is just doesn't make any sense and seems like they pulled some things out of a hat to finish the film.

    TB is a step up from GF, Connery is back to his commanding, suave, alpha male status. However, the plot also seems convulated. The mission is 2 nuclear bombs stolen and could explode anywhere... and it's forgotten immediately. There is no sense of eminent danger from this epic threat. Bond spends the film bedding women, chucking out one liners (which were great, don't get me wrong), there was no allusions to the upcoming catastrophe. And the finale... Impressing water ballet but it gets tedious after a while. And Barry annoyed me too. His soundtrack is very hypnotic which suits the film perfectly, but I didn't like the music during the large scale end battle. It was already tedious to see, and Barry continues his hypnotic music instead of going bombastic like the PTS fight, so I kept waiting for Bond to save the day. And the story falls flat on it's face when that guy tells Domino that he threw the detonators in the sea, so now there is no threat anymore.
  • Just finished watching DN. 2nd time I've seen it recently, and I must say I enjoyed it even more this time. I rarely, if ever, idolise people, but Connery in this film deserves to be. The guy just oozes charm, charisma, suaveness and sophistication. In a few occasions in the film he just stands there, even sits down and gives commands to other characters, and they immediately comply! I used to put his performance in TB as one of the coolest, masculine and self confident in the entire cinematic history, but his DN one has greatly improved for me and I would now put it at the same level in terms of pure badassery and self confidence. The only aspect of DN I can not stand is the soundtrack. It's the only Bond film where I don't like the score. However the songs heard in the film (Mango Tree, Jump Up) are quite good. It's the rest that I find appalling. It's incredible that for a Bond film that has almost no action scenes, the whole duration of it is just an endless string of interesting scenes. There is not one scene I would remove from it.

    What a wonderful appraisal of one of the finer James Bond movies. Doctor No is often over looked by the younger fans (Forgive me for possibly placing the young ones in the same pool) as it is not full of action or gadgets. It has a story. With great characters and excellent acting. Sean Connery owns this movie. And movie history was made.

  • I recently viewed Never Say Never Again. Sean Connerys epic comeback as James Bond. Not quite as good as the movie that it is a remake of. But still much better than I have seen some fans on the forums declare it to be. The man oozes cool. Fatima Blush is a character the Broccoli/Saltzman movies wish they had. Probably on par with Octopussy as far as viewing pleasure.
  • GF seems a let down after the first two, and it seems a bit standalone. Some of DaltonCraig's comments are what many would like; even Hitchcock rated the old lady with the machine gun, saying he should have used it in a movie! And Connery's vulnerability in the laser scene is what makes it imo. Still, the whole film lacks the hard edge of the first two, and Bond is only jesting to Leiter about appealing to her 'maternal instincts' as we all know it's cos he banged her brains out... Still not really sure how the gas canister thing works though, do they pretend to be dead or get actually knocked out by sleeping gas? It is a bit pat.

    Barry is a god but his action score in the TB climax is very wearing and tinny. Contrast with the music in the pts or bobsleigh in OHMSS, you almost wish they could redub that over it, it feels and sounds so much better.
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    I enjoy TMWTGG but I find the shitty action, weak Bond girl, and misuse of its villain enough to keep it towards the bottom of the Bond films in terms of quality.

    Moore is great in it, though, as is Lee. And that ship MI6 base is my favorite of the "mobile HQs" in the series, by far.

    Except for the Karate Nieces whipping the hell out of an entire karate school--precursor to Rambette, Wai Lin--I enjoyed the action. The car chase--alas, somewhat marred by the slide whistle--was well done, and I thought the Saida punch-up was also quite good.

    Regarding Goodnight, she was an intentionally dumb blonde bimbo, and I thought Eklund was convincing in the role. Certainly not my favorite Bond girl, but she at least puts XXX, Christmas Jones and Jinx to shame.

    The worst aspect of the movie, IMO, was the title track and the credits. Naff. Just plain naff.

  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    @NapoleonSolo I agree that Connery's vulnerability works in that scene (laser scene), but I just have a hard time believing this is the same Bond I saw in DN and FRWL, the Bond that didn't break a sweat when his death by Grant's hands seemed certain. Connery's Bond was the ultimate badass in the first 2 films, and these moments in GF, while good in the film, is IMO contrary to the alpha male persona I saw in the '62 and '63 outings.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Rewatched OHMSS. =D> still the best, I love this film. :D
  • Hi DaltonCraig007, yes I know what you mean. Partly it is perhaps because Bond is less trying to be the English gentleman in some ways, maybe it is the working class influence. Bond putting Red Grant in his place over red wine with fish, well, that's a great line but once Harry Palmer arrived in Leighton's novel, that kind of snobbery works less well and when Bond shows off his knowledge of brandy in GF, it is very much as a joke, and a cheeky one at that, as he is showing his boss up. It is meant to emphasise that the ordinary bloke can know all this stuff if he wants to, whereas before it implied that Bond was no ordinary bloke, being rather refined, and that worked well with the implicitly gauche Red Grant, who gets things wrong in terms of etiquette and maybe gets the same disdain that would be meted out by any posh bloke in that situation.

    Bond in GF does mirror the Beatles, despite his sideswipe, as it is post-Profumo and Colonel Smithers seems to exemplify the old order, an old fool whose pretentious waffling ('unauthorised leakages') is tersely translated by Bond 'I take it you mean smuggling'. The old boy even shows up in the train scene in A Hard Day's Night, guyed by the Fabs.

    Also, Connery looks different - didn't he have some surgery so he has less of an overbite, before GF? His face looks less Frank Sinatra-like, he does look more handsome imo.
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