Last Bond Movie You Watched

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  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Lately TND, TWINE and DAD are rising in my appreciation each time I view them. I had a moment about 5 years ago where the only Brosnan outing I cared for was GE, but now I love all 4 of them, with the last 3 having really improved in the last 2 years for me.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    GE was my favourite film growing up, now it's outside my top ten. Generic 90's american action movie. Doesn't have the Bond suave, sophisticated feel.

    TND is in my top five, IMO the last Bond film to have proper rewatch value (meaning I could watch it anytime. I find Craig's films to be much more 'brew some strong coffee, sit down and pay attention' films).

    TWINE is my least liked Bond film. The story itself is boring, not in the least bit engaging. Add poor acting, stop start action, bland uninspired cinematography, terrible direction etc.

    DAD is terrible but not as bad as TWINE. I actually enjoy the car chase on ice. ICE INC is a stand out Bond chase track, and the stunts are incredible. The first 40 mins of the film build nicely with some great intrigue.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    GE was my favourite film growing up, now it's outside my top ten. Generic 90's american action movie. Doesn't have the Bond suave, sophisticated feel.

    TND is in my top five, IMO the last Bond film to have proper rewatch value (meaning I could watch it anytime. I find Craig's films to be much more 'brew some strong coffee, sit down and pay attention' films).

    TWINE is my least liked Bond film. The story itself is boring, not in the least bit engaging. Add poor acting, stop start action, bland uninspired cinematography, terrible direction etc.

    DAD is terrible but not as bad as TWINE. I actually enjoy the car chase on ice. ICE INC is a stand out Bond chase track, and the stunts are incredible. The first 40 mins of the film build nicely with some great intrigue.
    Generic 90's American action movie?
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    jake24 wrote: »
    GE was my favourite film growing up, now it's outside my top ten. Generic 90's american action movie. Doesn't have the Bond suave, sophisticated feel.

    TND is in my top five, IMO the last Bond film to have proper rewatch value (meaning I could watch it anytime. I find Craig's films to be much more 'brew some strong coffee, sit down and pay attention' films).

    TWINE is my least liked Bond film. The story itself is boring, not in the least bit engaging. Add poor acting, stop start action, bland uninspired cinematography, terrible direction etc.

    DAD is terrible but not as bad as TWINE. I actually enjoy the car chase on ice. ICE INC is a stand out Bond chase track, and the stunts are incredible. The first 40 mins of the film build nicely with some great intrigue.
    Generic 90's American action movie?

    Yes, I mean it emulates that type of film and forgets its Bond in the process. That's the impression I get when I watch it.
  • GBFGBF
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    I don't know but I like TWINE. I think it is an interesting Bond film. It actually has an interesting story and there is some character develoment. I also like that the villains get more to do and we have them on screen for most of the time. It could have been very high up there among the best Bond films if its execution had been better. Especially the cast was not the very best. Not only Denise Richards but also many of the secondary supporting casts like Goldie have not been that great.
    But this is certainly the problem with some of the 20th century Bond films. They casted too many models, singers or other celebrities where it would have been better to have more established acteurs. Just keep in mind how much time they spend for chosing the right theme song and how critical they were with some of the orginal versions changing them completely in the last few weeks (e.g. Thunderball, Moonraker). They should have had the same ambition with regard to the overall casting.
  • edited February 2016 Posts: 1,596
    Yeah I don't know what he means by calling it American. I mean, there's some gunfire, but it feels pretty Bond through and through to me, especially with the Cold War overtones.

    One vote for TWINE. Anyone else have any suggestions? As usual I'll come back with my dumbass thoughts on the film.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    When in doubt I go to TMWTGG or OP.
  • chrisisall wrote: »
    When in doubt I go to TMWTGG or OP.

    I've got a list of ones I'm considering. Moore does sound fun. Interested to see how I feel about TWINE

  • Some of these criticisms of GoldenEye are baffling. I understand that I'm a pretty shameless homer, but man. The last thing I think of when watching it is that it's cheap or an American ripoff.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    I've got a list of ones I'm considering.
    Oh, okay, then I'd say TWINE, not as harsh as LTK & not as overblown as YOLT. A good mid-ground.
  • Some of these criticisms of GoldenEye are baffling. I understand that I'm a pretty shameless homer, but man. The last thing I think of when watching it is that it's cheap or an American ripoff.

    I can respect difference of opinion, but yeah, I don't get the American criticisms at all. Surely the following film I can understand (especially the finale), but GE? Yeah, I don't see it.

    @chrisisall Uh-oh, that's two votes...
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    @chrisisall Uh-oh, that's two votes...
    It's all good.
    :-bd
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    jake24 wrote: »
    GE was my favourite film growing up, now it's outside my top ten. Generic 90's american action movie. Doesn't have the Bond suave, sophisticated feel.

    TND is in my top five, IMO the last Bond film to have proper rewatch value (meaning I could watch it anytime. I find Craig's films to be much more 'brew some strong coffee, sit down and pay attention' films).

    TWINE is my least liked Bond film. The story itself is boring, not in the least bit engaging. Add poor acting, stop start action, bland uninspired cinematography, terrible direction etc.

    DAD is terrible but not as bad as TWINE. I actually enjoy the car chase on ice. ICE INC is a stand out Bond chase track, and the stunts are incredible. The first 40 mins of the film build nicely with some great intrigue.
    Generic 90's American action movie?

    Yes, I mean it emulates that type of film and forgets its Bond in the process. That's the impression I get when I watch it.
    To be honest, for me that's more DAD & TWINE, primarily because they even stopped including the characters with the smooth talking Euro and foreign accents, which I love and see as a Bond staple. At least GE had that in spades, which made it feel more Bondian than LTK for me.
  • Watching TWINE. I actually think this movie has a pretty interesting and quality plot, it's too bad it gets pushed out of the way so often for action. But hey, it's something I found that I liked which is always good.

    Doesn't look too bad either. The PTS is a bit too long but I do like the whole thing beginning to end. There's nothing that's begging to be cut. It's all pretty inventive and fun.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Doesn't look too bad either.
    Watching the Blu Ray, I take it?
    ;)
  • edited February 2016 Posts: 1,596
    Yeah I have the Bond 50 set from a few years back. Just meant the kinda hazy look the movie has. Every set is smoky or foggy or hazy which does a nice job of creating that atmosphere of oil and greed and industry

    Also the idea that Bond kinda falls for a girl who not only doesn't love him back (although there's clearly plenty of lust involved) but is using him rather than the other way around is pretty interesting. I like Elektra and Renard as a villain duo.

    The completely obligatory action scenes that don't really develop out of the plot at all (ski chase, caviar) are ridiculous, and neither of them is all that remarkable as a standalone sequence either.

    All in all this has grown on me slightly but I doubt I'll ever love it again. I have enjoyed it, despite the soap opera nature of it all (Brosnan is over acting like crazy, and the dialogue ranges from cringeworthy to so bad it's good, especially during the more serious scenes). I suppose it functions occasionally as melodrama. Pretty heavy melodrama at that.

    edit: Off topic, but Antonia so and so reviewed this film and had something really interesting to say about the Bond films.

    "The films were exotic in a time when that word still meant something - before we all went on package holidays to Magaluf. Bond's cruelty was the incarnation of the loneliness of the sophisticated world traveller, and it was secretly terribly sad. Death and despair were the hidden meanings behind the cocktails and first-class air travel. It was all there in one bar of John Barry's theme-tune, all there in Sean Connery's face. Nobody since Connery has been 'right for the part' because Connery was the part. All that bitter muscle under the tux, a man isolated by his own charisma, a determined smoker."

    Great bit. Really interesting.

    Update: Still one of the worst. The script makes Bond out to be pretty stupid, although there is a kernel of a great movie here (I like the OHMSS turned sour idea on paper, it just isn't executed). One minute it's a self-serious melodrama (with overwrought dialogue, turning it into a soap opera) and the next it is aping the Roger Moore movies without a smidge of the cleverness or class. The writers mistook wit for crassness.

    Add in action that is mostly uninspired (I do like the PTS) and grinds the film to a halt, Brosnan's worst performance (mostly the script I'm guessing, maybe the direction too, cause he clearly is engaged), etc etc (the list goes on and on). One of the worst Bond films, easy. I still snicker at Brosnan checking out all of the ladies' lingerie in the casino scene, but it really reduces Bond to a school boy-which paired with how stupid and clueless he is throughout ("blinded by infatuation" I suppose could be a thin excuse) makes for a character I'm not all that enamored with or interested in.
  • edited February 2016 Posts: 1,596
    Update:

    1. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE / GOLDENEYE
    3. SKYFALL
    4. MOONRAKER / DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
    6. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY / SPECTRE
    8. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN / DIE ANOTHER DAY
    10. QUANTUM OF SOLACE / THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH
  • Some of these criticisms of GoldenEye are baffling. I understand that I'm a pretty shameless homer, but man. The last thing I think of when watching it is that it's cheap or an American ripoff.

    I agree. It's easily the best of the Bros Bonds. Probably in my top ten-ish Bonds.
  • ForYourEyesOnlyForYourEyesOnly In the untained cradle of the heavens
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    @ThighsofXenia Perhaps AVTAK?
  • edited February 2016 Posts: 6,432
    Spectre - Just finished watching Spectre for first time on bluray. To quote Bond "That's more like it". Thoroughly enjoyed Spectre, visually stunning the budget is definitely there for all to see. Once I accepted Craigs micro Bond verse! found it easy to enjoy this.

  • edited February 2016 Posts: 11,189
    Some of these criticisms of GoldenEye are baffling. I understand that I'm a pretty shameless homer, but man. The last thing I think of when watching it is that it's cheap or an American ripoff.

    I agree. It's easily the best of the Bros Bonds. Probably in my top ten-ish Bonds.

    I'm a big GE fan but I will admit that, in comparison to the Craig Bonds the film looks very cheap in places. It's certainly a step up from LTK in terms of set design (the facility, the statue park and the control room) but a lot of the establishing shots are blatant models or bleak grey buildings.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    BAIN123 wrote: »
    Some of these criticisms of GoldenEye are baffling. I understand that I'm a pretty shameless homer, but man. The last thing I think of when watching it is that it's cheap or an American ripoff.

    I agree. It's easily the best of the Bros Bonds. Probably in my top ten-ish Bonds.

    I'm a big GE fan but I will admit that, in comparison to the Craig Bonds the film looks very cheap in places. It's certainly a step up from LTK in terms of set design (the facility, the statue park and the control room) but a lot of the establishing shots are blatant models or bleak grey buildings.
    This is true.

    Where I think they nailed it (after LTK, the 2nd half of TLD & most of AVTAK) was with a concerted and noticeable attempt to inject style and glamour. That was something that was missing from the earlier mentioned films. They had become almost too run of the mill in concept. GE at least tried to take it up a notch, despite noticeable models and green screen in places.

    It also brought back a little of the eccentricity which is important for Bond.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @BAIN123, a 1995 film looks 'cheap' in comparison to movies released today? You don't say! ;)
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @BAIN123, a 1995 film looks 'cheap' in comparison to movies released today? You don't say! ;)

    Maybe it's partly to do with the Blu Ray transfer, but FRWL, GF and TB look stunning throughout - and they were made 30 years before GE.

    As I said, I love GE but I do think there is a bit of merit to the claim that the film sometimes looks low budget.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    BAIN123 wrote: »
    I love GE but I do think there is a bit of merit to the claim that the film sometimes looks low budget.
    That is definitely a fact. I noticed it on my last watch. Still had a lot of fun with it, as always.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I think every film has a good moment of looking cheap, ridiculous, or low budget. But yes, as far as GE bias goes, there are most certainly some lower budget looking moments, particularly scenes with the models.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    So, yesterday – Sunday – I received in the mail, my steelbook of Spectre and my paperbook of Colonel Sun. (I have wanted to read it for quite some time – it seems to me the best of the continuation efforts, and the Spectre torture scene, persuaded me to get it.)

    Naturally, having got Spectre, I decided to watch Die Another Day.

    I wasn't looking forward to it however, as I had a bad hangover. Still, I preserved, and was rewarded with a couple of hours solid entertainment. Perhaps familiarity does breed, not contempt, but a certain complacency, or grudging acceptance. Even Jinx's God awful lines were not as bad as I remembered. Maybe I was still drunk.



    Worst Bit – The infamous ice dragster going over the cliff. They had just as well got a carrot attached to a bit of string for that sequence. And why did they do it in bloody slow motion. It looks like a bad stop motion effect.

    Best Bit – The Brozz and his effortlessly cool performance.



    7/10

    Royale's Ranking

    Casino Royale
    Live and Let Die
    Moonraker
    Die Another Day

    CR
    LALD
    MR
    DAD

    DAF
    FRWL
    DN
    GF
    AVTAK 
    FYEO
    QoS
    GE
    LTK
    SP
    OP
    TLD 
    TSWLM 
    TND
    TB 
    OHMSS 
    YOLT 
    TMWTGG 
    TWINE
    SF
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @royale65, whether I'm under the influence of something while watching DAD or not, one of the only things I can never overlook is some of Jinx's awful dialogue. It's too bad at times.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    I can't stand her gurning in the helicopter as it tumbles about. Was that meant to simulate G-Force?

    And "psychedelic face mask!" Shudder
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Also, it bugs the hell out of me the way she says "And another million in reserrrrve." GAH! Irritating, I don't know why.
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