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    QOS right now....its on while I discuss BOND25 gunbarrels etc on here,which hopefully EON are keeping their beady eyes on this site as per the agreement.
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    I picked TWINE for my next one. Man... this hurts. This used to be as high as like #12 or 13 on my list once. Some of it is just a chore for me to get through now. It is going to have to be low on my list now; sorry, Brosnan. On the bright side, at least, TND has improved for me over time.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    SP (post Madeleine's intro) cont'd

    So I got back to wrapping this up. A few more observations I noticed on this viewing.

    1. The smart blood plays a big part in the plot. It allows Hinx to track Bond to the train in Morocco. and also probably is how the thugs cornered Bond and M in London.

    Since MI6 knew Bond was being tracked, I wonder why they didn't get a message to him in Morocco so he could at least be ready for trouble. Similarly, he shouldn't have been allowed on the London raid due to this.

    2. I assume Blofeld wanted Bond dead on the train (he had no interest in Madeleine), which is why Hinx tried to throw him off, & I further assume he later changed his mind and decided to welcome him to home base to finish him off there. Hence why he sent the Rolls.

    I turned it off just after Bond was abducted in London. Couldn't get through the rest.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    bondjames wrote: »
    SP (post Madeleine's intro) cont'd

    So I got back to wrapping this up. A few more observations I noticed on this viewing.

    1. The smart blood plays a big part in the plot. It allows Hinx to track Bond to the train in Morocco. and also probably is how the thugs cornered Bond and M in London.

    Since MI6 knew Bond was being tracked, I wonder why they didn't get a message to him in Morocco so he could at least be ready for trouble. Similarly, he shouldn't have been allowed on the London raid due to this.

    2. I assume Blofeld wanted Bond dead on the train (he had no interest in Madeleine), which is why Hinx tried to throw him off, & I further assume he later changed his mind and decided to welcome him to home base to finish him off there. Hence why he sent the Rolls.

    I turned it off just after Bond was abducted in London. Couldn't get through the rest.

    Dont try to make sense of the plot its mornonic.
    Though you did clear some stuff up for me. Should they have used the tracker from CR as a cool callback instead of the smart blood nonsense
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    bondjames wrote: »
    SP (post Madeleine's intro) cont'd

    So I got back to wrapping this up. A few more observations I noticed on this viewing.

    1. The smart blood plays a big part in the plot. It allows Hinx to track Bond to the train in Morocco. and also probably is how the thugs cornered Bond and M in London.

    Since MI6 knew Bond was being tracked, I wonder why they didn't get a message to him in Morocco so he could at least be ready for trouble. Similarly, he shouldn't have been allowed on the London raid due to this.

    2. I assume Blofeld wanted Bond dead on the train (he had no interest in Madeleine), which is why Hinx tried to throw him off, & I further assume he later changed his mind and decided to welcome him to home base to finish him off there. Hence why he sent the Rolls.

    I turned it off just after Bond was abducted in London. Couldn't get through the rest.

    Dont try to make sense of the plot its mornonic.
    Though you did clear some stuff up for me. Should they have used the tracker from CR as a cool callback instead of the smart blood nonsense
    They could have gone with the tracker, but C would have known what he was up to with that also, so either way Bond was made from the get-go.
  • edited August 2017 Posts: 684
    barryt007 wrote: »
    And Dan ? you missed him out,just curious.
    @barryt007 Oh right. Not sure how I managed that! For me Dan's performances in CR-QOS pair well, as do his SF-SP performances. There's a definite tonal shift there in middle. Doesn't bother me. I think he's better suited to the CR-QOS style. He can pull off the SF-SP stuff in his own way, but to a lesser extent that Connery, Moore, and Brosnan. That said, I really don't find fault in any of his performances. His first two are his best (being better suited to them), but he's doing admirable work in SF. There is, for me, a not insignificant quality dip with his performance in SP, but not to the point where I would say he was 'phoning it in' or to the point where it weakens the film. I think he's one of the films stronger points, certainly.
    bondjames wrote: »
    I also agree with your view that Connery is underrated as an actor. It was clear to me while viewing FRWL a few nights back. He stayed tightly in character throughout while still expressing a range of emotions. He was far more subtle than Dalton who had a tendency to over-emote, which made him more intense.
    @bondjames On my last viewing of FRWL I took special note of the opening hunt in the garden, and Connery's acting as not-Bond. He's playing the guy playing Bond. The way he moves, the way he holds his gun, his expressions, he's playing all of it different to how he would the real Bond, but in a subtle enough way so as to not jar the audience. This might better belong in the 'things I never noticed before' thread, as it may very well be some well-worn observation (alternatively it may belong in the 'things that are BS from my head' thread if I'm projecting it) but it was my first time noticing it, and it made me appreciate all the more in Connery what I was speaking to earlier.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    I'm not going to respond to all of your post because I agree with most of it to be honest (I do think Brosnan was more original than you give him credit for though, but I defend Brosnan a lot on here and just end up repeating myself so won't get into all that now), but I am of course going to have to defend Dalton. Connery could do anger well at times sure but more often than not he was always ice cold. That was part of his appeal, what made him so cool. I wouldn't describe him as intense. But Dalton took intense to a whole new level. He wasn't cold. Ruthless yeah, and clearly desensitised to killing, but he was angry and emotional. You get the sense he could snap at any moment. He comes across as so grizzled, burnt out and tired, and because of that ends up angry when he's forced into these situations he's come to hate (e.g. "that was damn stupid"). And they brilliantly took this a step further in LTK and oushsd him further than even Fleming had dared do. Even the Moore hangover stuff he was saddled with he managed to make work in the context of his Bond. The lame one liners that Connery, Moore, Brosnan and even Craig could sell with a wry smile or an eyebrow raise, Dalton couldn't. But he made that work through his delivery. Take the end of TLD. "He met his waterloo". You get the sense that earlier in his career he would have delivered that in a cool Connery esque way. But now? He's tired, he's world weary and he sounds it. It's as if he's doing out of some obligation to himself to keep being the 007 people expect him to be. I agree Dalton wasn't the most charismatic but he didn't have to be, his screen presence comes from his intensity. Less suave charismatic Bond, more grizzled tough badass Bond. Same with the sex appeal. He was a romantic much like Fleming's Bond. Look at his relationship with Kara. It's sweet and authentic seeming. He didn't need to have that animal magnetism that Connery and Craig have or the charm of Brosnan and Moore because that's not who his Bond was. He might not be for everyone but for me he'll always be the best James Bond and his performance was really ballsy (as I said, not even Fleming took Bond as far as Dalton did) and groundbreaking, especially when he got a script tailored to it with LTK. He was my childhood hero because he was the first Bond I saw, and the best as an action hero, and as I've got older I only find more to appreciate about his Bond and his acting. He perfectly captured the Bond from the TLD short story and mixed that with a sense of rughed proffessional badassery that'd rival any of the 80s action movie stars he was up against, in an intense firecracker of a performance. Then in LTK he expanded on that by taking that new Bond he'd brilliantly established, and exploring what'd happen if he was pushed that little bit too far (it helps that they gave him such a properly nasty bastard to go up against, the Dalton/Davi dynamic is perfection). And he managed to keep it grounded and authentic throughout, with lots of moments of real vulnerability and humanity. He feels like a real person in a way that only Lazenby and Craig manage to match imo. The ending of LTK is my favourite scene of the series because of this. After the perfect final showdown against Sanchez he stumbles off into the desert covered in blood sand and cocaine, seems to dry heave and then slumps down against a rock, relieved it's all over. Connery, Moore, Brosnan and even (despite the action being a lot more physical/intense in his first two) Craig are badass because they make it look effortless. Dalton is badass because it seems like he goes through hell and back but comes out on top, even in the jail fight in TLD it's as if he's fighting for his life. I think he's the best at showing how well trained Bond is because he's great in the action scenes but there's also a sense of real effort there, him scraping by through sheer determination (just like in the books, can easily imagine Dalton doing Dr No's obstacle course) and just about coming out on top. It adds believeability to it which makes his skillset seem more credible and less superman. Really ballsy groundbreaking stuff, it's just a crying shame that they weren't appreciated more. Those two films are the gold standard for me (I also love GE, so 1987-1995 is probably my golden age). I do see a lot more love for him online now though, I think the Craig era has made peope reevaluate his era. I doubt he'll ever be as popular as Connery, Moore, Craig or even Brosnan, but hopefully in time more people will appreciate Dalton for doing what he did so well.

    @thelivingroyale, it's funny that you respond to me from a post you said you agree with most of, because I feel the same with the above.

    I don't mean to sound like I was taking Dalton to task. He's my #3 favorite behind Sean and Dan and that's exactly because of what you list above. I agree that you see effort in his portrayal as he goes to hell and back (sometimes too much, but still), and that he had some natural dynamics with those around him. I think he got saddled with stuff he couldn't handle, but you bet your arse that if I could see him continue through Brosnan's era with more movies I'd take it. He would've maybe worked better in a miniseries running through the books than in big screen films where he didn't have the same draw, but I appreciate a good deal of what he did and find some of his acting moments to be in the upper echelons. More often than not it's the writing and films themselves that fail him rather than the other way around, but Cubby, Glenn and co. couldn't get out of Moore mode to play to his strengths consistently.

    I feel that Sean and Dan match who I envision Bond to be better, and realize that character's range more fully, but Dalton is an easy #3 and certainly did have something there, if only he was able to continue it. I'll have to share my blog reviews for the two films whenever I get them edited and posted, as I will explain what draws me better in those than I could off the cuff here.
    bondjames wrote: »
    SP (post Madeleine's intro) cont'd

    So I got back to wrapping this up. A few more observations I noticed on this viewing.

    1. The smart blood plays a big part in the plot. It allows Hinx to track Bond to the train in Morocco. and also probably is how the thugs cornered Bond and M in London.

    Since MI6 knew Bond was being tracked, I wonder why they didn't get a message to him in Morocco so he could at least be ready for trouble. Similarly, he shouldn't have been allowed on the London raid due to this.

    2. I assume Blofeld wanted Bond dead on the train (he had no interest in Madeleine), which is why Hinx tried to throw him off, & I further assume he later changed his mind and decided to welcome him to home base to finish him off there. Hence why he sent the Rolls.

    I turned it off just after Bond was abducted in London. Couldn't get through the rest.

    @bondjames, I think by the time Bond is in position to head to Blofeld's base (right before the train fight, if I remember), Mallory has Q cancel the smart blood so that Bond can't be tracked, even by Nine Eyes, so there was no ability for the villains to keep track on him like that. I think Blofeld used satellite imagery to track Bond in place of the smart blood, which is why he was able to spot him and send the car out.

    As for Hinx and his motives, I wonder this too. The only thing that makes sense to me is that, following Bond's butting in on his work to get at White, he personally comes to get the spy dead to rights on the train free from Blofeld's orders. It could be either way, but I think Blofeld gets too much enjoyment out of having Bond and Madeleine around his spot to have wanted them done in by another; it would take the pleasure out of him doing it himself and by his own terms. It's highly likely that, after he loses Madeleine to Bond in the plane chase and car crash in Austria, Blofeld tells Hinx to bugger off and decides to let the game play to him instead at the base knowing that Madeleine will lead Bond to the hotel and to where White was planning to get at him. Wanting to settle the score, Hinx then comes to Bond and gets his revenge. Makes more sense than Blofeld being his master to me.

    I like that Hinx recalls Oddjob as a mute powerhouse of danger, but I think that SP should've given him spoken lines (or at least a bit more) and more character so that we knew his background and motivations. Oddjob is a blank slate and doesn't need to have a sense of deep character because you understand that he's Goldfinger's tool of destruction and that's all the purpose he serves. Hinx had a bigger role in bending the story, however, and I think something is lost by us not knowing what score he is settling or what is driving him. I appreciate the mystery, like his big entrance in Rome, but wanted and needed a bit more. After seeing Patrice in SF and him in SP it seems like SPECTRE love their mute assassins. Perhaps because they don't have loose lips and Blofeld doesn't have to worry about them slipping classified secrets? ;)
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Strog wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    I also agree with your view that Connery is underrated as an actor. It was clear to me while viewing FRWL a few nights back. He stayed tightly in character throughout while still expressing a range of emotions. He was far more subtle than Dalton who had a tendency to over-emote, which made him more intense.
    @bondjames On my last viewing of FRWL I took special note of the opening hunt in the garden, and Connery's acting as not-Bond. He's playing the guy playing Bond. The way he moves, the way he holds his gun, his expressions, he's playing all of it different to how he would the real Bond, but in a subtle enough way so as to not jar the audience. This might better belong in the 'things I never noticed before' thread, as it may very well be some well-worn observation (alternatively it may belong in the 'things that are BS from my head' thread if I'm projecting it) but it was my first time noticing it, and it made me appreciate all the more in Connery what I was speaking to earlier.
    @Strog, absolutely. I picked up on that about five years ago on one of my viewings of the film. It suddenly struck me and I really appreciate his performance all the more on account of it now. He moves a little differently and shows a lot more 'fear'. His trademark Bondian confidence is certainly missing as well.
    bondjames wrote: »
    SP (post Madeleine's intro) cont'd

    So I got back to wrapping this up. A few more observations I noticed on this viewing.

    1. The smart blood plays a big part in the plot. It allows Hinx to track Bond to the train in Morocco. and also probably is how the thugs cornered Bond and M in London.

    Since MI6 knew Bond was being tracked, I wonder why they didn't get a message to him in Morocco so he could at least be ready for trouble. Similarly, he shouldn't have been allowed on the London raid due to this.

    2. I assume Blofeld wanted Bond dead on the train (he had no interest in Madeleine), which is why Hinx tried to throw him off, & I further assume he later changed his mind and decided to welcome him to home base to finish him off there. Hence why he sent the Rolls.

    I turned it off just after Bond was abducted in London. Couldn't get through the rest.

    @bondjames, I think by the time Bond is in position to head to Blofeld's base (right before the train fight, if I remember), Mallory has Q cancel the smart blood so that Bond can't be tracked, even by Nine Eyes, so there was no ability for the villains to keep track on him like that. I think Blofeld used satellite imagery to track Bond in place of the smart blood, which is why he was able to spot him and send the car out.
    Ah yes @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 I remember that now. I still assume that Hinx was in fact dispatched by Blofeld to overpower and bring Bond in (perhaps he exceeded his orders), which is the only way to explain how he knew Bond was on that train. With respect to the Rolls, I assume Blofeld could have guessed where Bond was headed based on the route of the train (after Q deactivated the smart blood). How Bond knew he would be picked up there remains a mystery to me however (presumably he just took a guess) and it still doesn't explain how the thugs knew exactly where to intercept Bond/M in London without smartblood assistance.
    I like that Hinx recalls Oddjob as a mute powerhouse of danger, but I think that SP should've given him spoken lines (or at least a bit more) and more character so that we knew his background and motivations. Oddjob is a blank slate and doesn't need to have a sense of deep character because you understand that he's Goldfinger's tool of destruction and that's all the purpose he serves. Hinx had a bigger role in bending the story, however, and I think something is lost by us not knowing what score he is settling or what is driving him. I appreciate the mystery, like his big entrance in Rome, but wanted and needed a bit more. After seeing Patrice in SF and him in SP it seems like SPECTRE love their mute assassins. Perhaps because they don't have loose lips and Blofeld doesn't have to worry about them slipping classified secrets? ;)
    Yes, I definitely agree here. I would have liked more clarity on Hinx's motives. While his Spectre meeting intro is chillingly cool, some background would have been nice. I'm probably in the minority, but I would have preferred if Guerra had some warning prior to his death to make it more of a fair fight. Hinx was a far more powerful man to begin with, and the way he surprised him wasn't so much menacing as brutally unfair.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    @bondjames, I think it's not outside the realm of the possible that Hinx was shadowing Bond and maybe knew from some reading he'd done on White in SPECTRE files (once he was his target following Rome) that he had a special room in Morocco he'd go to. Hinx then used the hunch that Bond was using Madeleine to find the same room and began following them while there. Christ knows he'd stick out, so he'd remain far behind.

    As for Bond being picked up, I think he knew that if he followed the coordinates to the base as far as he could go, which was pretty close from what we can see, Blofeld would use his program (which Bond knew was in the works by that point) to spot him and come for him. Certainly not the craziest leap fans have to make with these films, and with the full scope of the world at his finger tips through servers and satellites, it's something Blofeld could easily pull off, especially if he was tracking a target just a mile or so away.

    In London I simply assume that SPECTRE had heavy tails going on with numerous vehicles, which wouldn't be hard to manage for such a connected organization. Mallory could've easily been followed from MI6 or his home, locations well known to SPECTRE by nature, and if they had Mallory they had Bond and could trap them on their way to C.

    More context for the above would've been nice, but sometimes the films leave you to wonder a lot for yourself. That can be fine, depending on the concept, but others not. I'm iffy at times about how much SP demands you to think for yourself, and that comes off as a bit too art house or European for me as that isn't what people expect Bond films to be. ;)

    As for Hinx, I didn't really mind the Guerra scene. Blofeld wanted the best to get White and Hinx went into survival of the fittest mode to prove his worth; Guerra was also a bit of a egotistical prick, so I didn't mind it. It's something I'd expect such a dark organization to allow that controls vaccines to profit from suffering and traffics women for mass profit.

    I agree about getting extra information on Hinx though. Sometimes the mystery of Bond films and plots are great, like in FRWL where you wonder whether Tatiana is siding with Bond or Klebb when she does something, or wondering in CR when Vesper is being controlled by Quantum or moved to Bond's side, but other times it's not, as in some of OHMSS, GF and parts of SP. The Craig era usually takes familiar elements and gives them a twist and I was hoping that in having a henchman as part of SP a twist would've been put on it where Hinx had a bit more context and motivation that was clear to set him apart from the others. In a way, I wanted more Jaws and less Oddjob, if that makes sense. ;)
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    DAD. Pretty rough stuff here; once Bond is at the Ice Palace, it just keeps going further and further downhill. Some of the first half still has some decent stuff - PTS, some cool action, Brosnan himself doing okay. But it's definitely one of the weakest Bond films overall - maybe the weakest. It's all too clear by the end it was time for the Brosnan era to end. He was not the problem, but his films kept dropping in quality (IMO, GE was great, TND was decent, TWINE was averageish, and DAD was meh - don't dislike any Bond films overall).
  • QQ7QQ7 Croatia
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    Probably will rewatch GE tonight.
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    Same. Maybe right after DAD. I love that one.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    QQ7 wrote: »
    Probably will rewatch GE tonight.

    You can never go wrong there!
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    I just wish all of Brosnan's films had been that great. It's what I will remember him best for though, and it will stick around with my other favorite Bond films.
  • QQ7QQ7 Croatia
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    I liked TWINE when I was younger and disliked TND, but now I prefer TND quite more.

    GE = great
    TND = solid
    TWINE = it has it''s moments
    DAD = just
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    QQ7 wrote: »
    I liked TWINE when I was younger and disliked TND, but now I prefer TND quite more.

    GE = great
    TND = solid
    TWINE = it has it''s moments
    DAD = just

    Same here. I used to much prefer TWINE and put TND even below DAD once! GE has consistenly been my favorite at least. It's the weakest era of the actors who did 4+ IMO, but there is still enjoyment to be had. No such thing as an all-bad Bond film!
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    I just wish all of Brosnan's films had been that great..

    They are.
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    I just wish all of Brosnan's films had been that great..

    They are.

    Oh you and your Brosnan hate

  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Hate is such a strong word. I am really indifferent.
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    You are always picking on poor Brosnan's films XD I agree it's the weakest era overall but certain films of other eras for me still can be just as weak (DAF, TMWTGG, MR).
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    MR has a great pts stunt and a brilliant score. A few standout scenes, but agree it is one of the weakest and dumbest overall.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    shamanimal wrote: »
    I watched Spectre again last night, and it impresses me more every time. The way the attempted assignation of the widow is filmed is so inventive and classy. I think they did a great job on it.
    I heard there was a scene cut where Bond has a meal with Blofeld at the crater base. I wonder if we'll ever get to see it? I'd love them to do a Spectre DVD set like they did with Casino Royale.
    The scene featured in an early draft, but was omitted later and thus never shot.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    QQ7 wrote: »
    Probably will rewatch GE tonight.
    Good choice. I may do the same. I'm curious to see how my opinions on it may have changed after having recently viewed some Connery and Craig entries.
  • JohnHammond73JohnHammond73 Lancashire, UK
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    Dr No.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    bondjames wrote: »
    QQ7 wrote: »
    Probably will rewatch GE tonight.
    Good choice. I may do the same. I'm curious to see how my opinions on it may have changed after having recently viewed some Connery and Craig entries.

    Please give us your thoughts afterwards, both of you, if you can. ;)
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    GE. The bright spot of Bond in the 90s. I love almost everything about this one - awesome PTS, great Brosnan performance, great villain, great Bond girls, and some really good action scenes. TND and TWINE have their moments, but GE is far and away Brosnan's greatest. Likely to be a favorite of mine until I'm gone.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    GE. The bright spot of Bond in the 90s. I love almost everything about this one - awesome PTS, great Brosnan performance, great villain, great Bond girls, and some really good action scenes. TND and TWINE have their moments, but GE is far and away Brosnan's greatest. Likely to be a favorite of mine until I'm gone.

    I agree. Objectively its probably a 7/10 Bond film, but to me it's a 8.5/10. There are only a few things that stand out and bother me. Otherwise else, its a wonderful film.
  • edited August 2017 Posts: 12,466
    FoxRox wrote: »
    GE. The bright spot of Bond in the 90s. I love almost everything about this one - awesome PTS, great Brosnan performance, great villain, great Bond girls, and some really good action scenes. TND and TWINE have their moments, but GE is far and away Brosnan's greatest. Likely to be a favorite of mine until I'm gone.

    I agree. Objectively its probably a 7/10 Bond film, but to me it's a 8.5/10. There are only a few things that stand out and bother me. Otherwise else, its a wonderful film.

    Objectively it's harder for me to rank since it has always been a favorite, but I still think it is pivotal and carried the Bond property as popular in the 90s. I think even the soundtrack, while not special, is overhated and has a couple highlights. It's at an impressive #4 in my overall ranking.
  • QQ7QQ7 Croatia
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    Just rewatched GE.
    It's still #6 on my overall list but that Cuba part is a bit weaker. Awesome stunts and stealth scenes from the first part make up for it. Also not sure about that CIA character, maybe they tried to please American audience too much.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    QQ7 wrote: »
    Just rewatched GE.
    It's still #6 on my overall list but that Cuba part is a bit weaker. Awesome stunts and stealth scenes from the first part make up for it. Also not sure about that CIA character, maybe they tried to please American audience too much.

    One wonders why Wade was there, and why they didn't just put Felix in there. I guess that, even though LTK was nearly a decade earlier, EON felt it'd be hard to explain a Felix who had been ravaged by sharks but who was still back in it with Bond. It's depressing that LTK is the last we see of the "old" Felix without explanation or what he did after.
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