Last Bond Movie You Watched

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  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    I could see M (whether it was Brown, Dench or whomever) calling Dalton's Bond a relic of the cold war. Sexist or mysogonistic... ok, not so much.

    The end of that scene (not a scene that had me thinking of Dalton...) had me cringing. Brosnan is his typical smug self and the uber cheesy 'come back alive'. :-&
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    I could see M (whether it was Brown, Dench or whomever) calling Dalton's Bond a relic of the cold war. Sexist or mysogonistic... ok, not so much.

    The end of that scene (not a scene that had me thinking of Dalton...) had me cringing. Brosnan is his typical smug self and the uber cheesy 'come back alive'. :-&

    I thought that was quite a sweet moment. It showed that M really does care for Bond. Whatever you think of Brosnan he worked well with Dench - the two had a chemistry (an overused word but applicable in this case).
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    I love GE the way it is and I think Brosnan is great in it, but I do think it was written for Dalton. Especially Trevelayns line in the graveyard that you mentioned.
    That's a bit of an overreaction, isn't it? I think the popular opinion is Maxwell > Bond > Bliss.

    You'd think so, but Bond was part of the Brosnan era, so for alot of people on here that makes her automatically crap.


    Well, that doesn't apply to me. I think there are a good few great characters in the Brosnan era. Samantha Bond's acting in the Bond films for the most part just seems forced and unnatural to me. She's okay in some scenes. The bad dialogue doesn't help but if you're truly a talented actor which Brosnan and Bond aren't, then you can make bad dialogue sound passable like with Craig for example. Not that Bliss is anything spectacular but I think she's better than Bond. Her performance doesn't sound exaggerated like the latter's. Bond was given more to do with the role which possibly sugar coats people's perception of her performance.
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    "Her performance doesn't sound exaggerated like Bond's".

    Really, the way she takes off her glasses, puts emphasis on the words Barry Manilow and sighs deeply when Bond leaves?

    Yeah not exaggerated at all ;)

    Bond is a decent actress, she's done a fair bit of stage work (a lot more than Bliss) and has had a pretty good career in TV outside of 007. I'd take her 1000x over Bliss.
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    Well, you have a point with the sighing deeply part. I'm more talking about her delivery of the dialogue for the most part. As I said she's nothing fantastic but overall I think she is more natural than Bond.
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    Bounine wrote:
    Well, you have a point with the sighing deeply part. I'm more talking about her delivery of the dialogue for the most part. As I said she's nothing fantastic but overall I think she is more natural than Bond.

    I think what I like about Bond is her cheekey twinkle. You get the impression she's someone who secretly enjoys a dirty joke.

    For me Bliss just wasn't convincing as Moneypenny. She may as well have walked on set a few minutes before cameras started rolling.

    Also, the way Dalton says "Believe me my interest in her is purely professional" doesn't feel right. He looks like he wants to get the hell out of the workshop as soon as possible.

    AND...Bond's cool. He should put her glasses back on correctly - not wonky.

    The relationship was more like a student having a crush on a teacher.
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    Saw the last thirty minutes or so of License to Kill the other day on the Encore Action channel. That whole time frame of when Bond head butts Dario and throws that chemical flask to spark the fire all the way through to Sanchez's death is absolutely perfect! Kicking action without a doubt!
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    @00Beast - Indeed, almost the perfect climax.


    Goldfinger

    Goldfinger is really the gold standard of the James Bond films, everything works; it has a golden cast, especially the heavies, the living embodiment of Fleming’s characters, plus it has excellent contributions from Barry, Adam, Hunt, Stears and Maibaum and Dehn etc.

    Some things grate; the back projection seems overly cheap, and the dialogue at the Hood’s Convention is woeful and badly acted. Nitpicking? Well, maybe. But Hamilton’s influence at the helm makes this less callous, less brutal, more stylised. This is a shame, as a Fleming fan. It started the road to having Bond become a superhero. Ah well. Of course the way the film utilises the character of James Bond, is really the difference between the cinematic and literary Bond's, but the spirit of Fleming's writing is retained, even if the context has been altered.

    Am I trying to find faults where there are none? Well, maybe…….

  • QsAssistantQsAssistant All those moments lost in time... like tears in rain
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    Die Another Day

    Still nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be... well with the exception of Jinx.
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    Never Say Never Again.

    I had a bond marathon and i didn't include NSNA so when i finished the 22 official ones i thought i'd watch this, i hadn't seen it for ages and i actually liked it more than i rembered.
  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
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    Saw CLEANSKIN last night, great movie.

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    xxx

    That is Bond24?

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  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    I can't wait to see Cleanskin! Thanks for no spoilers, too. God knows when I can rent it here, but I'll try. I love, love, love Sean Bean. ;;)
  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
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    SaintMark wrote:
    That is Bond24?

    Ooops, I just realized I've posted in the wrong topic. lol

    xxx
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    SaintMark wrote:
    That is Bond24?

    Ooops, I just realized I've posted in the wrong topic. lol

    xxx

    I figured that.

    But opening with the fat guy rogering that girl who looked not to happy was kinda offputting. Or was that just me?

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    Live and Let Die 1973

    Now there's a surprise

    Actually, it's still underway, Moore and Seymour are with Kotto at the underground lair on San Monique, just before the fight and 'blow up' bit

    My third viewing in as many months now. David Hedison is quite irritating as Leiter and spoils things a bit, not my favorite Leiter

    Jane Seymour always looks appealing. I can't believe this isn't others favorite Bond release, it is tremendous fun as always. Yaphet Kotto gets unfairly criticized as a poor villain, if he had stayed as Mr Big it would of worked so much better. (There goes the inflate bit, damn stupid),.. and why does Seymour ask 'where's Kananga' when she had a birds eye view of everything?

    Everything is here for me, great looking Bond girls, superb theme intro, interesting villains, exotic locations, a plausible Bond before Moore badly lost his way in the part of the Fleming character, and some great action sequences

    The fight on the train now seems like a blatant copy between Shaw and Connery from Russia, as will Richard Kiel and Moore to an extent a few years later

    This is one damn fine James Bond adventure, too bad it's over very soon

    9.5/10

    Over now, cue McCartney and Wings....
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    @Baltimore_007: Whoah! You watched LALD?! Wow, I need to sit down! Hahahahaha. I agree, it is an epic Bond movie, currently at #8 in my top ten ranking. I can't get rid of it; it'll always be top ten material for the reasons you state and more! I see what you mean about the ending train duel resembling that of FRWL's. I still love it though; it's absolutely thrilling every time, and shows Roger's display of fisticuff capabilities which get unfairly ranted on here sometimes.
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    I don't mind being the only one to have it as a personal favorite either - more for me really...

    Hands off, Seymour's all mine... :x
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    I don't mind being the only one to have it as a personal favorite either - more for me really...

    Hands off, Seymour's all mine... :x

    Hahahaha, indeed, it is quite special when you have the throne to the favorite Bond movie of your choosing! And you can have Jane, I for one don't really think she's 100% super-mega attractive, contrary to popular belief.
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    The Living Daylights

    Well, my main thought at the begining of the film was "Timothy Dalton is such a happy person". Luckily, he did soften up when he was around Kara. I liked him a lot more when he was with her.

    Speaking of Kara, she has to be the dullest Bond girl. The woman has hardly any personality at all.

    Another complaint is that the end shootout in Afghanastan lasted way too long. Personally, I find those kinds of scenes to be pretty boring. Twenty minutes of gunfire and bombs and both villians get away. On the plus side, parachuting the jeep out of a plane that was about to crash was one of the coolest stunts ever.

    This movie really is better on the second viewing. However, I do think having multiple villians is confusing. I still don't understand Koskov and he was supposedly the main villian. He was selling opium in order to buy the arms but for what purpose? He wasn't doing it for the Soviet Union. So was he gong to buy the arms just to sell them to the highest bidder? I guess that could work, especially with the KGB up in arms over Pushkin's death by a British agent. He definately wasn't your normal Bond villian in terms of personality--Whitaker was closer to that.

    I think Caroline Bliss gets a bad rap. I enjoyed her take on Moneypenny. I liked her and Bond's flirty exchange. Speaking of flirty, Dalton doesn't always do it very well. I know that Bond is supposed to have an eye for the ladies, but it didn't always seem to fit Dalton.

    All in all, I'd say I enjoyed this movie. The plot was enjoyable and the action wasn't too convoluted. As for Dalton, I'll have to see how I feel about him in the next film. Right now, he's comparable to Craig in terms of charm and as much as I like Craig as an actor, he's not really charming.
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    Maryam d'Abo indeed is a very poor bond girl, one of the most banal and lifeless of the entire series for me without question, silly puppy dog antics, you half expect her to roll over and have her belly tickled during the film sometimes...

    :-<
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    Maryam d'Abo indeed is a very poor bond girl, one of the most banal and lifeless of the entire series for me without question, silly puppy dog antics, you half expect her to roll over and have her belly tickled during the film sometimes...

    :-<

    Hahahahahahahaha, that's precisely what I would have thought too! That one scene in the bedroom where she calls him the horse's butt is really dumb. She's just like some little 13 year old girl with a puppy love, starry eyed crush that is against him one minute and all over him the next. Quite pathetic in my opinion, and certainly agree with @marymoss that she is exceptionally dull.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    The World is Not Enough.

    I haven't seen this film in many years, and to my delight, I found it on DVD.

    The PTS is very fun. It has you on the edge of your seat when the Boat chase kicks in. The Main titles are very nice. Garbage's song is very good. Brosnan is in top form here, though his Haircut sometimes throws me off. :p It's not a bad film. I enjoyed it very much. Brosnan is also very brutal in this movie, his reaction to when he kills Renard is very sadistic. He sure didn't miss in this film. 9 out of 10. :)
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    Murdock wrote:
    The World is Not Enough.

    I haven't seen this film in many years, and to my delight, I found it on DVD.

    The PTS is very fun. It has you on the edge of your seat when the Boat chase kicks in. The Main titles are very nice. Garbage's song is very good. Brosnan is in top form here, though his Haircut sometimes throws me off. :p It's not a bad film. I enjoyed it very much. Brosnan is also very brutal in this movie, his reaction to when he kills Renard is very sadistic. He sure didn't miss in this film. 9 out of 10. :)

    Yes, it is awesome seeing the Brutal Brosnan unleash in TWINE!! There are countless bits- threatening Lachaise ("count to three"), capping off Davidov at the airbase, attempting to murder Renard in cold blood in the underground silo, popping Elektra at point blank range, using one of Renard's men as a human shield, and of course the killing of Renard as you mentioned. All are fantastic parts to Brosnan's grade A performance!
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    d'Abo is just damn nauseating, good to see that appears to be the general consensus maybe. @Murdock - TWINE is my favorite of the Pierce Brosnan releases, even if I'm no great fan of the Irishman as 007 truth be told

    Outstanding PTS, longest and best ever, Garbage do well, lots of exciting action bits, keeps the interest, one of the best Bond releases of the last 25 years for me

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    d'Abo is just damn nauseating, good to see that appears to be the general consensus maybe. @Murdock - TWINE is my favorite of the Pierce Brosnan releases, even if I'm no great fan of the Irishman as 007 truth be told

    Outstanding PTS, longest and best ever, Garbage do well, lots of exciting action bits, keeps the interest, one of the best Bond releases of the last 25 years for me

    We had a thread about that back sometime earlier, called "TWINE action scenes" or something like that. I do agree, the action is really outstanding, especially the bigger scenes like the caviar factory shoot-out and the pre-title sequence, of course.
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    'The Insurance Company is never going to believe this'

    It all goes a bit downhill though when we reach Maiden's Tower in Istanbul where M is being held, and the submarine finale, is all a bit too watery (no pun intentional)
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    'The Insurance Company is never going to believe this'

    It all goes a bit downhill though when we reach Maiden's Tower in Istanbul where M is being held, and the submarine finale, is all a bit too watery (no pun intentional)

    Hahahahaha, without it being intended, that was quite clever! However, (hah, epic rhyme), I think it goes uphill with the Maiden's Tower climax. I've always loved that finale with the deaths of Zukovsky, Elektra, and Renard, and the nifty submarine battle, though the ending duel between 007 and Renard is quite cruddy.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Hands off, Seymour's all mine... :x

    DarthDimi won't be happy with that.....
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