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  • SoundofthesinnersSoundofthesinners
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    They sort of hint at it in the beginning, but it's flushed down the toilet as soon as he's out of Cuba. It makes me wonder how Dalton or Craig would have handled the ice palace: They're far more committed to the gritty, angry, dangerous Bond, but they're in a damn ice palace, and are about to CGI parasurf. There's just no way to make that work.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Take it back before filming, and given the script, they most certainly could've retweaked it and given us a dark, gritty Bond for Brosnan's last outing. Hell, the man may have even returned if things went well enough, as that was what he wanted all along. I'm cool with the entire PTS, I think. Can the horrid CGI scorpions in the title theme and pick someone new to sing the title song (as catchy as it can be...) and then it could just use some reworking from there. Just turn him completely around and let Brosnan play him the way he wanted to play it. That would've been damn good.
  • jobojobo
    edited May 2014 Posts: 7,507
    Creasy47 wrote:
    Take it back before filming, and given the script, they most certainly could've retweaked it and given us a dark, gritty Bond for Brosnan's last outing. Hell, the man may have even returned if things went well enough, as that was what he wanted all along. I'm cool with the entire PTS, I think. Can the horrid CGI scorpions in the title theme and pick someone new to sing the title song (as catchy as it can be...) and then it could just use some reworking from there. Just turn him completely around and let Brosnan play him the way he wanted to play it. That would've been damn good.

    It seems that the Bond producers during that day and age was torned between the ambition of going all the way with grittiness and character exploration, and, at the same time, the fear of doing just that. It speaks for the entire Brosnan era in general. Potentially meaty ideas are at best underexploited, or at worst, completely abandoned. It is understandable. Michael and Babs had inherited the task of keeping alive the longest running film franchise in the world, and adding to that it was a film franchise plagued with numerous perceived notions of what was acceptable, and perhaps more importantly, not acceptable for the character or the films as a whole. But it made the films in general, and I think Brosnan especially, suffer as a consequence. In that context DAD was a blessing, as it marked the point where the producers realized there was no other way to go than "all in", and luckily it concided with them gaining the rights to Casino Royale. It must be said to their credit that when they finally reacted, it was maybe in the best possible way.

    (In my opinion anyway...)
  • barryt007barryt007
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    I love the OP love here...the 1st Bond film i ever saw at the cinema in 1983,so it always is one of my favourites.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited May 2014 Posts: 40,957
    But in the end, they went with DAD, and no matter how much you hate or loathe the film, everyone should be able to appreciate that it happened and gave us the Bond we have today. Some people don't like DC, but at least they realized from their mistakes with DAD and heavily altered it as they went along. That's something to be appreciated. It's a blessing in disguise.

    @barryt007, same, I think it's very underrated. I think it might be my favorite Moore film and definitely in my Top 5 or so if I did a proper ranking.
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
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    barryt007 wrote:
    I love the OP love here...the 1st Bond film i ever saw at the cinema in 1983,so it always is one of my favourites.

    Same here, at my local cinema in Yate. Closed couple years later and became Spirals nightclub.
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    WillyGalore wrote:
    barryt007 wrote:
    I love the OP love here...the 1st Bond film i ever saw at the cinema in 1983,so it always is one of my favourites.

    Same here, at my local cinema in Yate. Closed couple years later and became Spirals nightclub.

    Aaah it might have well closed Willy but at least the memory is still there..i actually saw my version of it in Bournemouth visiting my cousins ....
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    Posts: 6,396
    barryt007 wrote:
    WillyGalore wrote:
    barryt007 wrote:
    I love the OP love here...the 1st Bond film i ever saw at the cinema in 1983,so it always is one of my favourites.

    Same here, at my local cinema in Yate. Closed couple years later and became Spirals nightclub.

    Aaah it might have well closed Willy but at least the memory is still there..i actually saw my version of it in Bournemouth visiting my cousins ....

    I still remember the intermission halfway through and my dad buying me an ice cream from the woman with the tray.

    Oh happy days! :-)
  • barryt007barryt007
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    But in the end, they went with DAD, and no matter how much you hate or loathe the film, everyone should be able to appreciate that it happened and gave us the Bond we have today. Some people don't like DC, but at least they realized from their mistakes with DAD and heavily altered it as they went along. That's something to be appreciated. It's a blessing in disguise.

    @barryt007, same, I think it's very underrated. I think it might be my favorite Moore film and definitely in my Top 5 or so if I did a proper ranking.

    Agreed @Creasy47 ,its #6 on my list at the moment and i have a giant wooden picture of the original cinema poster in my living room :)

  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    WillyGalore wrote:
    barryt007 wrote:
    WillyGalore wrote:
    barryt007 wrote:
    I love the OP love here...the 1st Bond film i ever saw at the cinema in 1983,so it always is one of my favourites.

    Same here, at my local cinema in Yate. Closed couple years later and became Spirals nightclub.

    Aaah it might have well closed Willy but at least the memory is still there..i actually saw my version of it in Bournemouth visiting my cousins ....

    I still remember the intermission halfway through and my dad buying me an ice cream from the woman with the tray.

    Oh happy days! :-)

    Absolutely...at least we had the chance to experience those times now gone...
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,957
    Very nice, @barryt007. I think the only part I don't like (from what I remember with my last viewing) was the raid on Octopussy's place with the girls and the hot air balloon. Other than that, absolutely fantastic.
  • jobojobo
    Posts: 7,507
    I actually like that air balloon. It's so goofy that it becomes hilariously funny!
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    Creasy47 wrote:
    Very nice, @barryt007. I think the only part I don't like (from what I remember with my last viewing) was the raid on Octopussy's place with the girls and the hot air balloon. Other than that, absolutely fantastic.

    Yes that's a bit OTT i have to agree,but i like the dirty Q ...nice to see him being a bit 'lively' ,as he was in LTK .

  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited May 2014 Posts: 11,189
    I don't mind it either:

    "I trust you can handle this contraption Q?"
    "It goes by hot air"
    "Oh then you can"

    Actually why are Bond, Q and the girls the only ones who go after kamal? Seeing as he tried to kill thousands of people on and around a US Air Force base you'd have thought most of the nearby army and police would have raided his palace along with Bond.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I don't hate it, but I wish a different form of entry and backup was used. I completely agree on the lively Q, was nice seeing him be a bit flirtatious with the girls.
  • timmertimmer
    Posts: 4,622
    Prepping for a Sunday night big TV-screen double blu-ray viewing of YOLT and DAF.
    I've cleared the time and room.
    This is basically Bond nirvana for me. I've never actually paired these two together.
    Should be double-plus awesome.
    Then I think I will follow @beatlesearmuffs suggestion from further back and watch the films in book order.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    If I do a double viewing of YOLT and something else, I want to try TSWLM with it, just so I can compare the big battle sequences at the end of the films and see which one is better.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
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    Don't YOLT and TSWLM both have enemy vehicles going into water during the big battles? Something GE makes a nod to during the tank chase.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I don't remember there being water in the volcano battle in YOLT, but I know Bond takes out a jeep with a grenade during the battle in TSWLM, which flies into the water. I might be wrong about YOLT, though.
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    Posts: 6,396
    Creasy47 wrote:
    I don't remember there being water in the volcano battle in YOLT, but I know Bond takes out a jeep with a grenade during the battle in TSWLM, which flies into the water. I might be wrong about YOLT, though.

    I think he may be referring to the car that's dropped into the ocean in YOLT as I don't recall any water in the volcano either.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
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    I might just be getting confused. I was referring to the final battles. I know Spy definitely has a vehicle flying into water but thought Twice did too. Maybe it didn't :-?
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Birdleson wrote:
    Again, I seem to be the only one that is immune to OCTOPUSSY's appeal. Moore gets a couple of very cool, tough Bond moments (shooting the soldiers, killing Grishka), which is just frustrating in that I wish the entire film carried that vibe.

    No, I am with you. It is far from the worst imo, but a huge disappointment after FYEO:
  • timmertimmer
    edited May 2014 Posts: 4,622
    BAIN123 wrote:
    I might just be getting confused. I was referring to the final battles. I know Spy definitely has a vehicle flying into water but thought Twice did too. Maybe it didn't :-?
    You are on to something though. The final battles are quite similar. In the YOLT volcano battle, I think some of the Spectre golf carts and other motorized conveyances get knocked around and beat up pretty good, much like the supertanker vehicles, even if they don't end up in water.

  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
    edited May 2014 Posts: 1,596
    I have always liked Moore as Bond. He made the role his own and while he is visibly aged in OP I think he really gives one of his best performances. He's on top form in all aspects, humorous, suave, and lethal. A veteran Bond vibe to match his veteran age. ;)

    I like some humor and I think in OP it is pretty excellently balanced with some truly Bondian and Fleming elements. The location of India is exotic and gorgeous with the palaces and lairs exotic on Blu-ray. Then the film sort of shifts tones when we get to Germany and it becomes a near hard-boiled Cold War showdown/thriller.

    My second favorite Moore Bond film, and it used to be my LEAAST favorite.

    However, difference of opinion is always welcomed by me of course, and I 've always respected your thoughts @Birdleson
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    Licence to Kill

    Still holds up well after x amount of viewings.
    Some things that struck me this time-
    -Anthony Zerbe as Krest is really great to watch. One if the best minor characters in the series .
    -Del Toro is really quite creepy as Dario.
    -This is the film with my favourite Q moments. His scenes with Pam are reminiscent of his scenes with Tiffany in DAF...
    - I love the title track, as well as Patti Labelles's If You Asked Me To.

    Just some minor cons-
    -Kamen's score is a little bit generic, and annoying in places.
    -When Bond first enters the WaveKrest, it is night time. But by the time Sharkey is killed, it's broad daylight. It takes me out of the film a little.

    Overall, it's defiantly top five material.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @MayDayDiVicenzo, I thought the same thing about Krest when I last rewatched it. He's amazing and really is one of the better minor characters in the series.
  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
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    @MayDayDiVicenzo - I would say the score is more than just a little generic.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    ThighsOfXenia wrote:
    @MayDayDiVicenzo - I would say the score is more than just a little generic.

    I do love Kamen's Bond theme, though. I like how it's used in the tanker scenes.
  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
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    MayDayDiVicenzo wrote:
    ThighsOfXenia wrote:
    @MayDayDiVicenzo - I would say the score is more than just a little generic.

    I do love Kamen's Bond theme, though. I like how it's used in the tanker scenes.

    Yeah I agree! I have no problem with his Bond theme, I just think he relies on it FAR too much. The whole film feels like it's scored by various renditions of the Bond theme. Maybe that's just a gauge of how memorable the score is? haha

  • jobojobo
    edited May 2014 Posts: 7,507
    I've never understood the affection/hype for the "tank chase" either. We only see Bond destroying a lot of things and endangering innocent people. And it turns the usual Bond/villain "meassure of strength" that applies for most chase sequences on its head. Here Bond is in the position of power, in no real danger and not having do demonstrate any real skill, while I'm almost feeling sorry for poor General Ourumov being chased by that beast of a vehicle. I like Goldeneye, but whatever suspense or humour (I'm not sure what they're aiming for to be honest?) that chase scene has, it's almost completely lost on me...
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