Last Bond Movie You Watched

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  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Benny wrote: »
    (My top three are a probably a joint first as I find it hard to choose between them)
    @Benny, your top 3 are awesome IMHO.
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    Did a bondathon while painting tomorrow never dies (which feels like a sister to quantum of solace) the living daylights and half of Grayfall... I mean Skyfall....
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    Did a bondathon while painting tomorrow never dies (which feels like a sister to quantum of solace) the living daylights and half of Grayfall... I mean Skyfall....

    'Painting'? What?
  • Moonraker

    Well. I believe this movie is what the kiddies call "transcendentally stupid," from the Bondola to the ninja fight that permanently damages Renaissance scholarship, to the unbelievably flimsy excuses to get to Venice and to Rio, to Jaws' every scene, to the block of wood impersonating a Bond girl to the laser battle climax.

    I can't believe the same series that made such beautifully taut thrillers as Dr. No and From Russia With Love produced this mess. The only strong points are the death of Corinne Dufour, the set design (masterful as ever), and Rog's performance as Bond. Michael Lonsdale as Drax is alternately bland and appropriately reserved.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Moonraker
    Well. I believe this movie is what the kiddies call "transcendentally stupid
    Welcome to my world back in 1979. ;)
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    Thunderball
    Sure, the editing sucks, but aside from that, I think Thunderball is a very fun movie.
    Thunderball is a very fun movie. I like the villain, although he's not the greatest. Domino is an awesome Bond girl as well, again, not the greatest, but she's still good.

    But the best thing about this movie is the action. The underwater scenes are spectacular to watch, and actually build up a lot of suspense.

    Oh, and that theme song. I'd probably list it in my Top 3 favorites, along with Nobody Does it Better (The Spy Who Loved Me) and Live and Let Die.

    So, Thunderball... Flawed, but I still like it a lot. I give It 7.5/10


    You Only Live Twice

    I thought YOLT was a little outrageous, what with making 007 look Asian, and the volcano secret base, but this is honestly one of my favorites. This kind of put the Connery Bond out of his comfort zone, which consisted of "casual" fight scenes and mild shootouts. YOLT was very action packed, which was quite refreshing, in my opinion. Some people may say it's bad or it's alright, but now that people are coming to the revelation that Die Another Day was actually good ! , I think people should give YOLT another shot.
    I give It 8/10


    On Her Majesty's Secret Service

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service is like a fine wine. The older it gets the more I, and I dare say history, grows to appreciate it. I'll admit I wasn't always a huge fan and I even accused it of being boring as a kid but as I've matured I've come to realise what triumphant On Her Majesty's Secret Service is. It's one of, if not THE most, important and yet severely under-rated films in the James Bond franchise. The implications of the events of this movie resonate in many of the following films and should not be under-stated. And on top of this significance On Her Majesty's Secret Service is also a marvelously crafted and executed film with very little holding it down. However, what does hold it down, and I'll touch on that in a moment, is quite often what people immediately turn to when critiquing it and thus it is unfairly judged. For this review I'm going to try and assess the film as a whole rather than pick apart the elements that are so frequently addressed.

    That being said let's quickly start with what I have commonly heard people refer to as the "major flaw" with On Her Majesty's Secret Service; George Lazenby as Bond. Yes, he's not a tremendous actor (some people like to "wittily" point out he's not an actor at all) and yes, his performance doesn't do the script too much justice is many places but, and I say this as someone who places Lazenby as last on my Bond actor ranking, he doesn't even come close to diminishing the quality of this film. Sure, had Connery been in it it may have been universally acclaimed but, given the direction You Only Live Twice took, I doubt this film would have been as faithful to Fleming's novel had he stayed on-board. It's thanks to Lazenby that this movie went back to the book. Another flaw that I commonly come across is that it suffers from a problem Thunderball did in that it drags in parts. While I can't deny that this is true in some cases I think some of the more drawn-out moments are important in order to build up to the final climax.

    Now that I've cleared that up, let me get back to the positives. Diana Rigg is a revelation as Tracy, creating easily the most likable and three-dimensional Bond girls of the series to this day; Telly Savalas brings a brutal edge to Blofeld not present in Donald Pleasence's portrayal that is very suited to this film; and Gabriele Ferzetti plays yet another charismatic Bond ally in the form of Tracy's father, Draco. John Barry broke new ground with his score for Majesty's, successfully integrating electronic instruments into the orchestral tracks. Peter Hunt, the long time Bond editor and first time Bond director makes his debut in spectacular fashion with sweeping shots of the awe-inspiring ski sequences; tender and human moments not too common in a Bond film between Bond and Tracy and a white-knuckle showdown at Piz Gloria. But by-far the best scene in On Her Majesty's Secret Service is the final scene of the movie. Without giving it away for those who haven't seen it, it is a very personal and emotional scene that possible one of the most flawless sequences in the franchise. Even Lazenby nails this scene!

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service is a Bond movie that must be experienced by all Bond fans. No movie is perfect but this is a very genuine attempt. I can't give On Her Majesty's Secret Service anything bellow a 10/10.
  • TND - Not my favourite by a long way, though happy to watch it more than many non Bond action movies. Well good or bad its still Bond, watching this film reminds me how remarkable it is this series has lasted so long and kept evolving. I have given Pierce a tough time in the past, though he is pretty decent and there is room for his interpretation of Bond. Pierce is the best thing about the film, Pierce deserved better material overall.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Agreed, sadly Pierce got some of the weakest Bond material to work with.
  • DrGorner wrote: »
    Agreed, sadly Pierce got some of the weakest Bond material to work with.

    Victim of the 90s quite a weak decade for Bond, though at the time was just thankfull they were making Bond movies again.

  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    True and Goldeneye began with such promise.
  • DrGorner wrote: »
    True and Goldeneye began with such promise.

    Agreed I do rate GE, Campbell should direct more Bond films. Campbell gets Bond, would not be surprised if he returned to helm at some point.

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    Dalton12 wrote: »
    Die Another Day Ah Die Another Day, what an absolute mess. In a way, it almost feels like the culmination of the gluttonous over-Hollywoodisation that the series had rapidly degenerated into in the 90s. Everything started off so well with Goldeneye. It was thrilling, moody, excellently made and pure, vintage Bond. Everyone seemed to love it and it resurrected Bond in a big way, but no one could have seen what was about to happen next. After the success of Goldeneye, in the span of just two films, the series got bloated and over-produced to the point where they literally became glossy homages to the stereotype of Bond. The action was over-the-top and just kept inflating with each new outing, puns were spat-out for the sake of having puns, the plots were needlessly extravagant and larger-than-life, the villains wanted nothing less than world domination and, well, "less than talented" Hollywood actresses like Teri Hatcher and Denise Richards were stunt-cast for their names and their bodies just so they could stand next to Brosnan on the films' poster. I have a passion for movies and movie-making and consider myself pretty good at spotting film techniques but I can't for the life of me tell the difference between Spottiswoode and Apted style in these movies. It's so bland and generic. Despite this downward trend, I still actually enjoy Tomorrow Never Dies and The World is Not Enough, but no one can deny that they were the precursors to what is one of the worst Bond films ever made. So let's talk about why Die Another Day is no good.

    Essentially, almost everything wrong with Die Another Day is what was wrong with Tomorrow Never Dies and The World is Not Enough, but taken to the next level. Die Another Day is your dad trying too hard to be "hip and cool" in front of all your friends. If he stopped trying to be something that he's not, he actually would comes across as pretty awesome. Just like Brosnan's previous two outings, Die Another Day starts off with a lot of potential. Bond infiltrates a renegade North Korean colonel's diamond smuggling operation, gets caught out, kills the colonel and is subsequently detained and tortured for 14 months by the colonel's father. Honestly, the premise sounds pretty badass and could lead to one of the greatest Bond films ever made, but the first sign that things are about to head for the worse is when we hear Madonna's ear-bleeding, cat-homicide sounding excuse for a title song over images of Bond's torture. So much for that tension. However, the potential continues to rise after when Bond is traded for Zao, Colonel Tan-Sun Moon's henchman. Now Bond is back in the west, in a foreign, post 9/11 world, and has to deal with being abandoned by his government for over a year and being responsible for setting a dangerous terrorist free. This film could write itself, unfortunately it doesn't and instead, after a very promising first half, the film noes dives spectacularly. Aside from a few hints of what is to come (the plastic surgery and Jinx - we'll talk about her in a second), the first 1/3 to one half is pretty promising. It's right after the terrific sword duel that things go sour fast. I have so many questions for Lee Tamahori and the creative team: Why bring Colonel Tan-Sun Moon back as the generic, sniveling Gustav Graves when you could use Zao in a much more interesting way? If you must have Gustav Graves, why not actually play around with the idea of having a villain deliberately base his alter-ego on Bond? Why have an Ice Palace? Why have an invisible car if it's completely impractical in the snow? WHY RIP OFF THE PLOT OF DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER WHEN IT DIDN'T WORK THE FIRST TIME? Yep, instead of taking the movie in a more interesting, character-based direction, with a less grandiose plot and potential for real character development, Die Another Day blatantly rehashes the ridiculous plot to the worst official Bond movie ever made... right down to the plastic surgery subplot. It defies all logic.

    Speaking of defying logic, why is Halle Berry a successful actress? I'm sorry, but she was only good like once... if that. Here she really kicks-off her downward decent by playing the unnecessary and obnoxious Jinx. Easily the worst Bond girl in the series, Jinx is another element of the film trying too hard to be cool. She absolutely does not need to be in this film one bit and was only cast because people would recognise her on the poster. And if fans though Stacey Sutton and Christmas Jones were vapid bimbos, Jinx was about to change the game forever. I guess she was meant to be "tough and feisty" but the combination of Berry's lackluster acting and the atrociously witless writing make her a pain in the ass to watch. She's the overdone "Bond-equal girl" cliche and not even done well. You don't have to make the Bond girl "tough agent" just like Bond in order to make her a strong female lead. Luckily they realised this by Casino Royale or we would have had Vesper running into Bond at the Miami airport and taking-out Obanno just in the nick of time, shudder. Another hiring problem was the director, Lee Tamahori; a man obsessed with turning the franchise into a gigantic music video. From a strange filter over the opening scene to gratuitous speed-ramping in every second shot, Tamahori lives up to his reputation as a Z-list, generic, Hollywood action director. He doesn't seem to have any artistic sensibilities or respect for the material (in fact, he even wanted to validate the Code-name theory into this movie at one point). He shouldn't have been allowed near the director's chair, but, in following the trend set by the previous movies, he was the natural choice.

    That's not to mention the moment Bond actually surfs the big kahuna. This is the Bond equivalent of jumping-the-shark or nuking-the-fridge; there was no coming back from this. Does anyone remember the special featurette on the Die Another Day DVD where the woman is bragging about how good the CGI wave looks? Did she honestly believe that? The special effects in the film are pretty fake looking, even for the time. They're not quite "Diamonds are Forever bad", but they're cringe-worthy in their own right. Remember when Bond stunts were real and awe-inspiring instead of shitty CGI? Well Tamahori sure doesn't, I don't think he's even seen a Bond movie. Which is ironic given my last point; the references. THIS MOVIE MARKS THE 40th ANNIVERSARY OF BOND! Just in case anyone missed the subtle nods. I won't subject anyone to a comprehensive list but there are so many in this film. Every shot of this movie wants to remind you of better Bond films (or worse ones, if you count the plot as a "reference" to Diamonds are Forever). If the movie was any good, it would be a distraction, but, seeing as it's not, it does makes an excellent Bond Drinking Game. WARNING: May result in alcohol poisoning.

    To wrap up my the point of my rant, Die Another Day is a terrible Bond film. It's just above Diamonds Are Forever because the first third is fairly decent and some of the action is survivable. It's a film bad enough to cause the producers to reboot the franchise and I can't recommend it unless you want to play an intense drinking game. I give it a 2.5/10.

    Totally agree with all of this. What a shame, after GE, which to me towers above the other three bloated productions.

    Tsunami surfing, ugh.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Sorry it's taken me so long to reply, but thanks for reading my musings on Craig!

    @ThighsOfXenia - yes, QoS is a tricky film to judge. After the cinema, I was quite underwhelmed. I thought Craig had regressed. As you said, the end of CR made us believe that Bond was back.

    Perhaps I'm trying to find things that aren't really there, regarding QoS; maybe my "interpretations" are way off. Certainly, while writing my "review" of QoS, I thought this is rather pretentious stuff. ;-)
    The Living Daylights

    To quote Koskov "Superb, Mr Bond, superb".

    Superb, dear Major! Superb!

    In fact, I would to go say, that up until the airbase, TLD features, quite possibly my favorite Bondian segments/portions, ever. The action, intrigue, romance etc is really topnotch, all enlivened by the fantastic Mr Dalton. (I wonder what he could do with Craig's material...?)
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    From Russia With Love- on BR, wow, what a great film. I haven't watched it in years... I still like DN a bit better, but this was pure awesome. My Son & I enjoyed it quite a bit, and he said it was dated, but I found it to be beautiful time capsule and a rousing Bond experience. Apart from the Popeye hat & the dodgy 'OMG' music during the gasoline drum explosions, this was a pretty flawless film IMO. Connery's most lively & engaging turn as OO7, and the best Cold War era movie ever.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    It's one of my favourites, and looks great on bluray.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Of my recent views, DN, FRWL, GF, TLD & LTK are my favourites, with YOLT & OHMSS right behind.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Watching GF- Blu Ray this time, and holy moley, I can read the read the registration expiration date (that's what it's called in the States anyway) on the wind shield of the DB5- it's Feb 65! That's when I turned 5! :))
    (ETA)GF rocks, like the two before it.
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    ...and Burton as far as I know was approved by Fleming.
  • edited November 2014 Posts: 4,622
    Now2 deep, into the Brozzer stretch of the 2014 Bondathon, which is on good pace. 5 more Eon films, plus NSNA and its done.
    GE and TND. Wow, I forgot how entertaing these films are. GE is a virtual Bond masterpiece, while TND is non-stop excitement. Well done!

    Bond films get better with age. I find there is tendency to be more critical in the short term as the films don't always measure up to what one wants - in my case, a return to the 60's feel and the Connery portrayal.
    However, 17-19 years after the fact, these two movies are reaching iconic status.
    I have reached a new appreciation for Brozzer Bond. Maybe I am comparing with what I don't like about Craig Bond, but nevertheless, Broz has his own, relaxed edgy style that does work.
    Love the way he tosses jibes at the lead villains, Fleming style. Like Connery, he's got a decent ranger of facial expressions. He is very much at ease as Bond-on-mission I find.
    Again, maybe I am contrasting with all the angst and drama found in the Craig portrayal, but still I do like what Broz is doing with the character here. I do believe he can handle weapons and fight with fists and he only gets better in the next two films. Nice job!!
    May have to commison another Bond statue. ( Connery and Laz being the others)
    I am now elevating Broz to third on my Bond actors list. This is a major development. He's only ever flirted with 4th before, battling Dalts, but now I am not only breaking the virtual tie with Dalts, Broz is being elevated above Rog into a solid third place, in fact well above the three below, and within shouting distance at least, of Sean and Laz.
    In fact, if the two icons look down, they can now see Broz.
    They suddenly have company, they can identify.
    Broz plays Bond plenty tough. He revels in being Bond. Great with the quips, natural with the girls. As mentioned, really does a nice job insulting the wacko villains. The disdain for these psychotic loons is palpable.
    It is really too bad that these iconic '90s action films did not play in double bills back in the day. The adolescents of the day really missed out
    GE and TND in particular, and the other two Broz films would have made great popcorn fare double bills.
    It may happen yet. One can hope. If so I will be first in line, pretending I am 13 again, like we did for the old Sean and Rog doubles - large butter-soaked popcorn and overflowing Coke, staring up at screen, mouth agape, awating 4 hours plus of pure Bondian screen mayhem and excitment.

    A few TND notes from final credit roll.
    Note that the accountant is a chap named John Roebuck. No doubt the inspiration for character Admiral Roebuck.

    Christopher Brosnan credit: Broz's adopted son is one of several additional assistant directors listed.
    from wiki "Chris Brosnan is a British film director, writer, and producer. He was born to Cassandra Harris and producer Dermot Harris, the brother of actor Richard Harris. He was adopted by actor Pierce Brosnan"


    Two questions to fellow students of Bond minutiae.

    1. Who is character Tamara Steele? That sounds like a Bond girl name, yet I can't place her.
    She is played by one Nina Young and is actually listed one spot above Daphne Deckers as PR Lady, however Deckers is easily identified and gets plenty of screen time.
    Deckers is the leggy, very attractive, smartly dressed, PR woman, who is sprinkled judiciously throughout the CMG party. Carver eventually fires her on stage.

    2. What is this 4th song credited- " It Had To Be You?" performed and produced by Simon Greenway. Where does it feature in the film?
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Third place behind the bastions of the 60's, Connery and Lazenby? Well, I never! I mighty pleased that you have Brosnan so high on your list. (Personally he's just behind Connery on my list)

    Tamara Steele - was the lady who first introduces Bond to Carver.

    And "It Had To Be You?" - maybe that was the song playing over Carver's party?

    edit - just found this, on our own MI6HQ -

    http://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/movies/tnd_music.php3?s=music
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Did a bondathon while painting tomorrow never dies (which feels like a sister to quantum of solace) the living daylights and half of Grayfall... I mean Skyfall....

    'Painting'? What?
    My House I also watched Diamonds Are forever.

  • edited November 2014 Posts: 4,622
    royale65 wrote: »
    Third place behind the bastions of the 60's, Connery and Lazenby? Well, I never! I mighty pleased that you have Brosnan so high on your list. (Personally he's just behind Connery on my list)

    Tamara Steele - was the lady who first introduces Bond to Carver.

    And "It Had To Be You?" - maybe that was the song playing over Carver's party?

    edit - just found this, on our own MI6HQ -

    http://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/movies/tnd_music.php3?s=music
    Thank you for the updates. Yes, It Had To Be You, is played at CMG party, where we do indeed find Nina Young as Tamara Steele, hanging around with the crazed Elliot.
    ninayoung0001.JPG

    Deckers gets way more screen-time, so the credits are a tad off, listing Young above Deckers, but that far down the list, the order is bound to be a bit off, I guess.
    I'll give Deckers 4th Bond-girl status behind Yeoh, Hatcher and Cecilie Thomsen (Inga Bergstrom) Nina Young 5th.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Didn't Deckers' win a competition to play Carver's PA?

    (I know the girl in the flower shop in Cortina, in FYEO, did)
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    Not sure what Deckers story is. She is gorgeous. Basically a model turned presenter and actress it seems.
    Married tennis star Richard Krajicek. Coincidentally her 46th birthday was two days ago. ( Happy belated!)

    Daphne Muriël Deckers was born 10 November 1968. She is a Dutch model, host, writer and occasional actress. In 1989 she started working at RTL-Véronique. While at RTL she presented Holland’s Next Top Model, which she took over after the second season from Yfke Sturm.
    Deckers began her career as a model. Later, she took up acting, appearing in the James Bond movie Tomorrow Never Dies. Also in 1999, she co-presented the first series of Big Brother. Currently, she writes children's books and books about family life and related subjects
    .wiki
    I do like this recent picture circa 2010.
    800px-Daphne_Deckers.jpg
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    An unexpected flood of Brosnan love. Excellent!
  • DOn't you mean "Delicious!"?
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    DOn't you mean "Delicious!"?
    Yes. I must make you my new anchor man!
    ;)

    Sorry, I just gotta gush one more time on how exquisitely awesome FRWL was a couple of days ago. If there is a perfect Bond movie, I'm pretty sure that's it.
  • edited November 2014 Posts: 4,622
    chrisisall wrote: »
    An unexpected flood of Brosnan love. Excellent!
    Might have been a tad caught up with how great both GE and TND look on blu-ray with big sound. But really did enjoy watching both films, and I am serious, the Broz has suddenly caught on with me. Took some time.....

    FRWL yes is a perfecto Bond film. Maybe the most perfect of the first 7 all-perfect films. There may very well be degress of perfection. Pretty much has to be, if I am to even attempt to rank any of these 7 films.
    I basically have the 6 Connery films, all tied for first, with OHMSS just a smidge lower in 7th.

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    I'm assuming your new appreciation for Broz @timmer is genuine? If so good :)

    Always nice to see at least a little bit of positive stuff about him around here.
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    The Brozzer's work grows on one I think. What can be appreciated is that he is dedicated to Bond-on-mission. He takes some getting used to, but his work stands the test of time. His movies hold up.
    He did embrace the Connery persona. He delivers a little differently. He doesn't have quite the same physical screen presence, but who does, but he does have his own strong presence. He brings some Bond swagger. Broz is serious Bond. He enjoys being Bond. He goes about getting the job done. He's comfortable in his Bond skin.
    And he does have the requisite Fleming disdain for the villains. All of the actors bring this element actually, but Broz delivers quite well in this respect I think.
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