Live And Let Die vs Tomorrow Never Dies - By the Elements

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  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited March 2014 Posts: 14,662
    @SharkBait C'mon mate, surely ONE of the films has some glamour about it? ;)
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,356
    PTS: CR
    Title Track: OHMSSS
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: OHMSS
    Main Bond Girl: OHMSS
    Overall Plot: OHMSS
    Dialogue: OHMSS
    Score: OHMSS
    Settings: OHMSS
    Action: OHMSS
    Humor: OHMSS
    Cinematography: OHMSS
    Benign Bizarre: OHMSS
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: OHMSS
    Glamour: OHMSS
    Ally: OHMSS
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    PTS: CR
    Title Track: OHMSSS
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: OHMSS
    Main Bond Girl: CR
    Overall Plot: CR
    Dialogue: OHMSS
    Score: OHMSS
    Settings: OHMSS
    Action: CR
    Humor: OHMSS
    Cinematography: OHMSS
    Benign Bizarre: CR
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: OHMSS
    Glamour: OHMSS
    Ally: OHMSS

    10-7 for OHMSS. Damn, that was a tricky one.
  • Posts: 1,405
    My 2 all-time favorite movies one against the other, oh my...

    PTS: CR
    Title Track: OHMSSS
    Title Credits: OHMSS
    Main Villain: CR
    Main Bond Girl: CR
    Overall Plot: OHMSS
    Dialogue: CR
    Score: OHMSS
    Settings: OHMSS
    Action: OHMSS
    Humor: OHMSS
    Cinematography: OHMSS
    Benign Bizarre: CR
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: OHMSS
    Glamour: CR
    Ally: CR

    Total: OHMSS 9 CR 8!
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    PTS: OHMSS
    Title Track: OHMSSS
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: OHMSS
    Main Bond Girl: OHMSS
    Overall Plot: OHMSS
    Dialogue: OHMSS
    Score: OHMSS
    Settings: OHMSS
    Action: OHMSS
    Humor: OHMSS
    Cinematography: OHMSS
    Benign Bizarre: OHMSS
    Suspense: OHMSS
    Minor Characters: OHMSS
    Glamour: OHMSS
    Ally: CR
  • PTS: OHMSS
    Title Track: CR
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: OHMSS
    Main Bond Girl: CR
    Overall Plot: OHMSS
    Dialogue: OHMSS
    Score: OHMSS
    Settings: CR
    Action: CR
    Humor: OHMSS
    Cinematography: OHMSS
    Benign Bizarre: CR
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: OHMSS
    Glamour: CR
    Ally: CR

    I love these movies so so much, looks like Casino Royale 9 - 8
  • edited March 2014 Posts: 2,483
    PTS: CR (only just)
    Title Track: OHMSS
    Title Credits: CR (perhaps the best credits of them all)
    Main Villain: CR (a complete tossup)
    Main Bond Girl: OHMSS
    Overall Plot: OHMSS (Fleming's vivid imagination at its best)
    Dialogue: OHMSS (a real weakness with CR)
    Score: OHMSS (no contest)
    Settings: OHMSS (nothing tops Piz Gloria)
    Action: CR (fairly close call, but the "free running" and the stairwell fight give CR the edge)
    Humor: OHMSS (lots of sly humor versus very little humor at all in CR)
    Cinematography: OHMSS (by a fairly substantial margin)
    Benign Bizarre: OHMSS (Barry's scoring and the psychedelic hypnosis sequences are what this category is all about)
    Suspense: CR (a close one, but I give CR the edge based upon the tension in the card game)
    Minor Characters: CR (a close call, but Gettler is great)
    Glamour: CR
    Ally: OHMSS

    OHMSS: 10
    CR:7

  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,423
    My 2nd favorite film (OHMSS) vs my 3rd (CR)

    PTS: CR
    Title Track: OHMSS
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: CR
    Main Bond Girl: OHMSS
    Overall Plot: CR
    Dialogue: OHMSS
    Score: OHMSS
    Settings: OHMSS
    Action: CR
    Humor: CR
    Cinematography: OHMSS
    Benign Bizarre: OHMSS
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: OHMSS
    Glamour: CR
    Ally: OHMSS

    OHMSS - 9
    CR - 8

    To be honest most of those categories could off gone either way.
  • Birdleson wrote:
    This is an insane contest. These two are in a locked battle for the third spot in my rankings. The only contest of equal magnitude would be FRWL vs GF.

    As it turns out, that was the first one we evaluated! Sad to say, FRWL won pretty handily, but this one is shaping up to be a great battle. Not sure if it'll surpass the shockingly close DAF vs. QoS, but it's certainly a bigger match.

  • Posts: 115
    PTS: CR
    Title Track: CR (just)
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: OHMSS (again, just)
    Main Bond Girl: OHMSS (by the tiniest margin known to man)
    Overall Plot: CR
    Dialogue: CR
    Score: OHMSS
    Settings: CR
    Action: CR
    Humor: OHMSS
    Cinematography: CR
    Benign Bizarre: OHMSS
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: OHMSS
    Glamor: CR
    Ally: CR (Nobody in OHMSS gets enough screen time to beat Mathis here)

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service 6
    Casino Royale 11

    I love both films, but I have the feeling some categories (cinematography for example) are biased towards the newer ones. In any case, I prefer Casino Royale out of the two by a very small margin.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 41,007
    PTS: CR
    Title Track: CR
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: CR
    Main Bond Girl: CR
    Overall Plot: CR
    Dialogue: CR
    Score: OHMSS
    Settings: OHMSS
    Action: CR
    Humor: OHMSS
    Cinematography: CR
    Benign Bizarre: OHMSS
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: OHMSS
    Glamor: CR
    Ally: CR

    CR - 12
    OHMSS - 5
  • Posts: 6,396
    PTS: CR
    Title Track: OHMSS
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: OHMSS
    Main Bond Girl: OHMSS
    Overall Plot: OHMSS
    Dialogue: CR
    Score: OHMSS
    Settings: CR
    Action: OHMSS
    Humor: CR
    Cinematography: OHMSS
    Benign Bizarre: OHMSS
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: OHMSS
    Glamor: CR
    Ally: OHMSS

    CR - 7
    OHMSS - 10
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,357
    PTS: CR
    Title Track: OHMSS
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: OHMSS
    Main Bond Girl: OHMSS
    Overall Plot: CR
    Dialogue: CR
    Score: OHMSS
    Settings: OHMSS
    Action: OHMSS
    Humor: OHMSS
    Cinematography: OHMSS
    Benign Bizarre: CR
    Suspense: OHMSS
    Minor Characters: OHMSS
    Glamour: CR
    Ally: CR
  • Posts: 3,336
    PTS: CR
    Title Track: CR
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: CR
    Main Bond Girl: CR
    Overall Plot: CR
    Dialogue: CR
    Score: OHMSS
    Settings: OHMSS
    Action: CR
    Humor: CR
    Cinematography: CR
    Benign Bizarre: OHMSS
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: CR
    Glamour: CR
    Ally: CR

    14-3 for Casino Royale
  • edited March 2014 Posts: 414
    PTS: CR
    Title Track: CR
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: OHMSS
    Main Bond Girl: CR
    Overall Plot: CR
    Dialogue: CR
    Score: OHMSS
    Settings: CR
    Action: CR
    Humor: OHMSS
    Cinematography: CR
    Benign Bizarre: CR
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: CR
    Glamour: CR
    Ally: CR

    14 - 3 in favor of Casino Royale, for me as well.

    Two of the more overrated Bond film, IMHO, but I do tend to rank CR more highly than OHMSS.
  • Posts: 5,634
    PTS - OHMSS (you do the math)
    TT - CR
    TC - OHMSS (see above)
    MV - OHMSS
    MBG - OHMSS
    Plot - CR
    Dialog - OHMSS
    Score - OHMSS
    Settings - OHMSS
    Action - CR
    Humor - OHMSS
    Cinema - OHMSS
    BB - OHMSS
    Suspense - CR
    Minor - OHMSS
    Glamor - CR
    Ally - CR

    OHMSS takes it by 11 - 6
  • Posts: 2,491
    Well shit, this will be a tough one..

    PTS: CR
    Title Track: CR
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: OHMSS
    Main Bond Girl: OHMSS
    Overall Plot: CR
    Dialogue: CR
    Score: OHMSS
    Settings: CR
    Action: OHMSS
    Humor: OHMSS
    Cinematography: CR
    Benign Bizarre: CR
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: CR
    Glamour: CR
    Ally: CR

    Overall 12-5 but in reality I have OHMSS rated higher than CR altough both of the movies are at the top of my list
  • Posts: 4,762
    PTS: Casino Royale
    Title Track: On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Title Credits: Casino Royale
    Main Villain: Casino Royale
    Main Bond Girl: On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Overall Plot: On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Dialogue: Casino Royale
    Score: Casino Royale
    Settings: Casino Royale
    Action: Casino Royale
    Humor: Casino Royale
    Cinematography: Casino Royale
    Benign Bizarre: (not sure what this category means)
    Suspense: Casino Royale
    Minor Characters: On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Glamour: Casino Royale
    Ally: Casino Royale

    OHMSS: 4
    CR: 12
  • Posts: 1,817
    PTS: CR
    Title Track: OHMSS (but my #2 overall is YKMN)
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: OHMSS
    Main Bond Girl: OHMSS (by the slightest)
    Overall Plot: OHMSS
    Dialogue: OHMSS
    Score: OHMSS
    Settings: OHMSS
    Action: CR
    Humor: CR
    Cinematography: OHMSS
    Benign Bizarre: OHMSS
    Suspense: OHMSS
    Minor Characters: CR
    Glamor: CR
    Ally: CR

    OHMSS - 10
    CR - 7

    Curious that CR is my #2 and OHMSS my #3. One lacking element which matters much is Bond performance, with Craig winning against Lazenby.
  • Posts: 19,339


    Tough,tough tough,CR is my #2 and OHMSS is my #3..here goes :

    PTS: OHMSS
    Title Track: CR
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: CR
    Main Bond Girl: OHMSS
    Overall Plot: CR
    Dialogue: CR
    Score: OHMSS
    Settings:OHMSS
    Action: CR
    Humor: CR
    Cinematography: OHMSS
    Benign Bizarre: OHMSS
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: CR
    Glamor: CR
    Ally: CR

    OHMSS : 6
    CR : 11


    Wow,that was more one-sided than i thought it would be !!
    @-)
  • Posts: 118
    PTS: CR
    Title Track: OHMSS
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: OHMSS
    Main Bond Girl: OHMSS
    Overall Plot: OHMSS
    Dialogue: CR
    Score: OHMSS
    Settings:OHMSS
    Action: CR
    Humor: OHMSS
    Cinematography: OHMSS
    Benign Bizarre: OHMSS
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: CR
    Glamor: CR
    Ally: OHMSS

    Overall:

    OHMSS: 10
    CR: 7

    I enjoy OHMSS much better than CR.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    PTS: OHMSS
    Title Track: OHMSSS
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: OHMSS
    Main Bond Girl: OHMSS
    Overall Plot: OHMSS
    Dialogue: OHMSS
    Score: OHMSS
    Settings: OHMSS
    Action: OHMSS
    Humor: OHMSS
    Cinematography: OHMSS
    Benign Bizarre: OHMSS
    Suspense: OHMSS
    Minor Characters: OHMSS
    Glamour: OHMSS
    Ally: OHMSS

    OHMSS- 16
    CR- 1

    It's an OHMSS thrashing. It's a perfect Bond film, so these results are of no surprise.
  • SuperheroSithSuperheroSith SE London
    Posts: 578
    This will be interesting...

    PTS: CR
    Title Track: CR
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: OHMSS
    Main Bond Girl: CR
    Overall Plot: OHMSS
    Dialogue: OHMSS
    Score: CR
    Settings: OHMSS
    Action: CR
    Humor: CR
    Cinematography: CR
    Benign Bizarre: OHMSS
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: OHMSS
    Glamour: OHMSS
    Ally: CR

    10-7 for CR
  • Wrapping this one up, so get your final votes in!
  • Gah! My two favorite films of the series!

    PTS: CR
    Title Track: OHMSS
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: OHMSS
    Main Bond Girl: I refuse to relegate either of them to even second best. TIE
    Overall Plot: CR
    Dialogue: CR
    Score: OHMSS
    Settings: OHMSS
    Action: CR
    Humor: OHMSS
    Cinematography: OHMSS
    Benign Bizarre: OHMSS
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: OHMSS
    Glamour: OHMSS
    Ally: CR

    9-7 in favor of OHMSS. Two of the finest films of their time, IMO. Though OHMSS will always be my favorite film of the series I sometimes think that CR holds more artistic merit and is objectively better, but nevertheless I can't foresee these ever not being my top two.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,823
    PTS: OHMSS
    Title Track: CR
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: OHMSS
    Main Bond Girl: OHMSS
    Overall Plot: OHMSS
    Dialogue: OHMSS
    Score: OHMSS
    Settings: OHMSS
    Action: OHMSS
    Humor: OHMSS
    Cinematography: OHMSS
    Benign Bizarre: OHMSS
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: OHMSS
    Glamour: OHMSS
    Ally: CR

    OHMSS- 13
    CR- 4

    Sweep.

  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
    Posts: 2,629
    Can we do MR vs. DAD next?
  • Seven_Point_Six_FiveSeven_Point_Six_Five Southern California
    Posts: 1,257
    PTS: CR
    Title Track: OHMSS
    Title Credits: CR
    Main Villain: CR
    Main Bond Girl: CR
    Overall Plot: CR
    Dialogue: CR
    Score: CR
    Settings: OHMSS
    Action: CR
    Humor: CR
    Cinematography: CR
    Benign Bizarre: OHMSS
    Suspense: CR
    Minor Characters: CR
    Glamor: CR
    Ally: CR

    CR - 14
    OHMSS - 3

    I knew CR was going to win, even against another titan like OHMSS.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,823
    Kerim wrote:
    Can we do MR vs. DAD next?
    OMG. A battle of the (non) Titans. :))
  • Kerim wrote:
    Can we do MR vs. DAD next?

    Oh, Lord. That will definitely be up soon, but I might want to put in a transition between the current one and that atrocity.
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