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Sure, but by that point Walt has become a villain. I could simply no longer root for him.
You just said it - it received huge amounts of praise from working professionals, politicians and the media class, hell even the POTUS praised it. There was a consensus. All I'm saying is that I don't agree with it.
And so far you did not show any reason why. I mean you have the right to dislike the show, it is not for everyone. I don't like Marcel Proust, but he is an amazing writer and I would never say he is overrated.
It feeds off ghetto crime stereotypes and encourages a particular liberal worldview. It's a pathological and fatalist take on human nature.
Stereotypes? I haven't been to ghettos much, but that seems pretty much spot on to me. The worldview may be liberal, but I am not even sure that's even fair, liberals in the series fail too, and there are a high, high number of hypocrites among the characters who do have liberal views. Not sure what you mean by pathological, but fatalist? What's intrinsically wrong with having a fatalist take on human nature? You might as well throw away Greek tragedy, Dante, heck, a lot of literature from Antiquity until today. And that's why the show is so good: it is not an idealist take on human nature.
From firsthand experience, what you see in The Wire is a very narrow and sensationalised depiction of life on the streets.
Because in the contest of The Wire, it perpetuates victimhood, helplessness and crime. We're not talking Dante or Marlow here - this is a modern, very influential urban drama. It should've been the responsibility of the series's creators to show more positive role models for young black men and women.
Give it long enough, and reality begins to resemble fiction.
FWIW, I'm not necessarily asking for an 'idealistic take on human nature' - just an enlightened one.
For how sensationalist it is, I am not from Baltimore or from the ghetto, but since the creators have firsthand experience and use locals, I give them the benefit of the doubt. That it is exaggerated or tweaked or biased, I can take it. It is after all fiction. The way they describe the school world, I can say from first hand experience (although not in the US), is pretty accurate.
And reality does resemble fiction, regardless of any TV show. Not sure what you fear here. One of my favourite movies is A Clockwork Orange, it was supposed to do the apology of violence, more particularly youth violence. And was there a single good model in it? Not even Beethoven's music was.
No, but it should be. But then I've never believed 'art for art's sake.'
Whether you believed in it or not is irrelevant. Besides, there are positive characters in The Wire, many of them Black and they are real characters.
Fair enough. I was rooting for Hank for the second half of series 5 but once he died I was rooting for Walt again.
@Shardlake What do you mean by The Dark Knight of TV?
I liked the originality of the first series but after that they just went way over the top!
As much as I loved BB I don't think it was culturally important as The Wire or Soprano' s the more declare it the best thing since sliced bread the more they'll be those who wonder what all the fuss is about hence the TDK effect.
I have allot if time for TDK and personally think blockbuster cinema hasn't equalled it since but that kind of feeling by myself and those who praised even more ridiculously than me lead to its back lash and Breaking Bad is due similar treatment. I just don't think it's impact will be as long lasting as those other 2 shows and TV will throw up something as good or even better in time.
Eh eh eeeeeeh?
Anne!
Haha "Yes, Anne likes to feed the ducks. Ah, look! She's got some bread for the ducks!" *throws a whole loaf in the pond* "eh eh eeeeehhh!"
Anne to Cat Deeley: "Tonight, Matthew, I'm going to be Celine Dion", "Eh eh eh eh eh ehhh eh eh ehhh!"
It's alright but I don't think it deserves the success it's gotten.
I loathe both programs, especially the first, but I don't think they are overrated. Over-popular yes, but not overrated. They receive their fair (and deserved) share of criticism.
Yes, perhaps you're right, though I don't watch them myself. Most of my TV comes from You Tube these days, in fact.
The two are mutually exclusive. Popular is an objective appraisal, overrated/underrated are subjective.
People might not have thought it was intelligent but if a show is popular then lots of people must have thought it was good. And if it wasn't that good then it's overrated.
"Lost" is another one. By Jehova, that was mindnumbingly boring.
Also, Dexter went off the rails terribly. I'd go as far as to say the final season is the worst TV season ever; the finale the worst episode of TV ever. The praise the final four seasons continued to get was ridiculous. At least people realized how bad the show had gotten by the end.