The Horror Thread II: The Return

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    The first Insidious was very good. Sequels not so much (I did find the weird breathing demon in the third one very creepy though). I feel like they should have left it as a one off. James Wan seems more invested in the Conjuring movies anyway and they're much better movies. Might see the new one depending on the reviews but feels a bit played out now. Elese (is that her name?) isn't really a character with a lot of mileage imo, unlike the Warrens in the Conjuring films. Doesn't help that they killed her off already, which makes these prequels just feel like milking it. And the universe isn't that interesting to me either. The more they show of the ghost world the less creepy it gets and they seem to double down on it more every film.

    Excited for IT. Anyone else seen the new Annabelle film? Pretty good. Wouldn't say it's as good as either of the two Conjuring films but a big improvement on the first one. The director also did Lights Out which was one of my favourite horror films of last year.
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I just read the script for "Leatherface", chainsaw massacre origin.. Coming out next October.

    And was it good or bad? The trailer was quite surprising to me, didn't expect it to look as well done and entertaining as it did.

    Extremely gory. I wanted to throw up.

    I don't know if you want to be spoiled or not but basically the main plot is there's three kids and one of them is leatherface. They kill the sheriff's daughter and they get sent to a mental hospital and their names are changed. They grow up and escape. His mom comes looking for him , but they don't know which one is which, meanwhile the police are after the kids. That's basically all in the trailer but that's the main plot. Felt kinda bland honestly.

    I'm quite excited for this because I love the first one and have enjoyed some of the sequels but my wife sort of ruined it for me. Seems like the film is built on the idea of one of these kids is going to be Leatherface but which one? But she told me ages and ages ago, before any details were released, that a kid from Eastenders was going to be Leatherface in the new film. So I'll already know which one it is. Still looks good though.
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    Seeing a partiuclarly good modern horror movie is particularly pleasing to me since the genre has mostly suffered tough times this century. After seeing some clips and reading more reviews, I'm pretty sure I will really like IT (2017). I'm pretty hyped for The Snowman too, and I still need to see Get Out!
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    It (2017) is one of the best horror films I have ever seen. It comes with my highest recommendations to anyone who enjoys horror. What a great experience.
  • QsAssistantQsAssistant All those moments lost in time... like tears in rain
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    It (2017) is one of the best horror films I have ever seen. It comes with my highest recommendations to anyone who enjoys horror. What a great experience.

    That's great to hear! I like horror movies but tend to stay away from them because the vast majority of them are terrible and not scary... except maybe to young teenagers. It's rare that I come across a good one that is truly creepy and that doesn't rely on cheap jump scares and gore.
    I'll be checking out IT sometime this week, perhaps tomorrow or Wednesday.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    It (2017) is one of the best horror films I have ever seen. It comes with my highest recommendations to anyone who enjoys horror. What a great experience.

    That's some incredibly high praise there! Seeing it exactly 24 hours now, conveniently enough, and I'm hoping I'm just as glowing about it. Been anticipating this one for a very, very long time.
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    I hope you guys like it as much as I did. I was pretty disappointed by the 1990 TV miniseries, but this one blew my expectations away! Great characters, acting, story, comedy, and of course, very fun thrills. Very tense moments. I still need to see Get Out, and The Snowman when it comes out, but I'm fairly confident IT will be horror film of the year. It has already become one of my favorite horror films of any era.
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    The first Insidious was very good. Sequels not so much (I did find the weird breathing demon in the third one very creepy though). I feel like they should have left it as a one off. James Wan seems more invested in the Conjuring movies anyway and they're much better movies. Might see the new one depending on the reviews but feels a bit played out now. Elese (is that her name?) isn't really a character with a lot of mileage imo, unlike the Warrens in the Conjuring films. Doesn't help that they killed her off already, which makes these prequels just feel like milking it. And the universe isn't that interesting to me either. The more they show of the ghost world the less creepy it gets and they seem to double down on it more every film.

    Excited for IT. Anyone else seen the new Annabelle film? Pretty good. Wouldn't say it's as good as either of the two Conjuring films but a big improvement on the first one. The director also did Lights Out which was one of my favourite horror films of last year.
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I just read the script for "Leatherface", chainsaw massacre origin.. Coming out next October.

    And was it good or bad? The trailer was quite surprising to me, didn't expect it to look as well done and entertaining as it did.

    Extremely gory. I wanted to throw up.

    I don't know if you want to be spoiled or not but basically the main plot is there's three kids and one of them is leatherface. They kill the sheriff's daughter and they get sent to a mental hospital and their names are changed. They grow up and escape. His mom comes looking for him , but they don't know which one is which, meanwhile the police are after the kids. That's basically all in the trailer but that's the main plot. Felt kinda bland honestly.

    I'm quite excited for this because I love the first one and have enjoyed some of the sequels but my wife sort of ruined it for me. Seems like the film is built on the idea of one of these kids is going to be Leatherface but which one? But she told me ages and ages ago, before any details were released, that a kid from Eastenders was going to be Leatherface in the new film. So I'll already know which one it is. Still looks good though.

    Well Sam is the big name actor of the film. All the other kids are unknown actors so it was kinda a given.

    Fun fact, my family almost bought the chainsaw massacre house from the 2003 film and 2006 film. Pretty unreal being there.
  • QsAssistantQsAssistant All those moments lost in time... like tears in rain
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    I hope you guys like it as much as I did. I was pretty disappointed by the 1990 TV miniseries, but this one blew my expectations away! Great characters, acting, story, comedy, and of course, very fun thrills. Very tense moments. I still need to see Get Out, and The Snowman when it comes out, but I'm fairly confident IT will be horror film of the year. It has already become one of my favorite horror films of any era.

    Get Out is good but I don't consider it a horror film at all. It's more of a suspense/thriller. I'm also looking forward to The Snowman but I think that will also be more of a suspense/thriller rather than a horror film.
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    Some people say that about Jaws, which I count as horror. Or Silence of the Lambs; just depends who you ask. I say thriller/horror.
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    And those people would be right, Jaws was not a horror movie, it was a suspense movie, though I can understand why people think of it now as horror due to the constant watering-down of modern horror movies to include blood and jump-scares as an indicator of what horror is. I seriously don't recall either Peter Benchley or Steven Spielberg ever referring to Jaws as a modern horror when the movie came out. It had more in common with the "disaster" movies of the 70s than it did horror.

    I'm still in two minds about It: The Movie. I'm not sure it was particularly that great, if I'm honest. It was good, but not fantastic. I thought it began very well with the boy in the rain and the storm drain, then as the kids were slowly introduced I felt it became rather disjointed. I didn't feel invested in any of the Losers Club the same way the original TV two-parter made me feel. I thought the young girl, Sophia Lillis, was very good with what she was given, but the rest of the boys all seemed to be vying for the camera in a school-stagey way. I was in my early Thirties when I saw the original It back in 1990. I can still recall hiring both split parts on VHS, watching the Losers Club one night, followed by the second part of the grown-up members the following night. The first part I can remember as having been really good, drawing me in and wanting to know what happened twenty years later on the next VHS cassette. Sadly, the second part wasn't as good as the first. Strangely, the movie version of It doesn't make me want to know what happens next to these same characters the same way the original TV version did. I'm getting a premonition that Chapter II of It movie might not do so well as the first part... again.
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    I just could not get into the TV miniseries. Too corny. Of course the new one won't win everyone over, but I just loved most of it. My complaints about it really would only be minimal; it gets a 9/10 from me.
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    I haven't watched the TV two-parter since 1990, but I do remember that I felt more involved in the story than I did with the movie. The movie has an excellent budget and good effects, but I just didn't feel anything for the Loser Club. It didn't feel much like a club either, just a bunch of kids cycling around and leaving their bikes in the middle of the street. Maybe it was a mistake to change the setting from the Fifties to the Eighties? The insertion of The Cure song felt a tad phony too, as if we are expected to believe that these kids would've been into the niche goth band back then. More than likely they'd have been Kiss or REO Speeedwagon fans. That New Kids on the Block joke fell kind of flat with me as well.
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    Making it set in the 80s was awesome for me. Of course I am quite partial to the decade. It will be perfect then for Part 2 being set in the present anyway. I thought the characters were great; they felt very real and they had lots of good chemistry I thought. The actors all did a great job. It will be perfect then for Part 2 being set in the present anyway.
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    Yes, tail-end of the Eighties, which for those that remember felt more like the Nineties. I did appreciate the cinema attraction displays of Batman and Lethal Weapon 2. Surprised none of the kids were wearing any of the Batman merchandise as it was everywhere back then, right down to Batman sneakers. For the record, it does have good production values. I just found the kids moments disjointed.
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    So what are everyone's favorite horror movies for this decade around here? Some of mine would include:

    Insidious
    Mama
    It Follows
    Get Out
    It

    Scream 4 was the second-best Scream after the original I think. The Conjuring and The Babadook were okay but a little overrated IMO.
  • I agree with you on It Follows and Scream 4, and I'm planning on seeing both Get Out and It soon. Excited for both. I liked The Conjuring at least as well as Insidious (probably more) and did not care for The Babadook at all.
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    I agree with you on It Follows and Scream 4, and I'm planning on seeing both Get Out and It soon. Excited for both. I liked The Conjuring at least as well as Insidious (probably more) and did not care for The Babadook at all.

    The Babadook was definitely overhyped I thought. Meanwhile, I found Get Out and It both lived up to the hype and are each very good! Actually, It Follows, Get Out, and It are probably my Top 3 of the decade.
  • Good to hear. I'm especially excited for It.
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    Off the top of my head:

    American Mary (2012)
    The Innkeepers (2011)
    Hatchet 2 (2010)
    Burning Bright (2010)
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I found It Follows to be incredibly overhyped, alongside The Witch and Under the Shadow. Off the top of my head, my three horror favorites from the last decade-ish would be IT, Insidious, and my personal favorite, The Descent.
  • I agree with you on The Witch, @Creasy47. Not scary in the slightest. A couple of the cheapest possible jump scares and nothing else for all of its running time.
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    I agree with you on The Witch, @Creasy47. Not scary in the slightest. A couple of the cheapest possible jump scares and nothing else for all of its running time.

    Maybe I need to rewatch it with my expectations in check, but it had nothing on offer for me past some solid acting and cinematography. Didn't feel scary or tense in the slightest throughout.
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    I have seen bits and pieces of The Witch and I was pretty disinterested with it. Also should mention I found Crimson Peak to be a meh one. Have to disagree with It Follows; easily one of the better horror films in recent memory for me. Have not seen The Descent. IT is actually my favorite horror film of the decade - and probably of the whole century. Loved it.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Crimson Peak didn't look terribly special, one of the rare del Toro films I wasn't rushing out to see (now The Shape Of Water is a different story). I'm in the minority with It Follows, wasn't as dreadful to me as others made it out to be, and it just felt like a collage of predictable cheap jump scares after that.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    The Witch, or The VVitch was a little overhyped. Though I did think that Anya Taylor-Joy was a rising start to watch.

    The Descent was of the prior decade, of which had no shortage for a list of my favourites.

    May
    Outpost
    The Ruins
    The Descent / Descent pt II
    Friday The 13th
    The House Of The Devil
    Ginger Snaps
    Dog Soldiers
    Triangle
    28 Days Later
    Session 9
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    Of course most of the greatest horror films came out before this century, but we take what we can get! I'm hopeful that with how good 2017 was, horror can make a comeback.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    I wouldn't restrict the best horror films to pre-2000. Every decade of horror has its ups (and downs).
  • Crimson Peak was alright. It had its strengths.

    The Descent, from the decade before, I've tried three times and just cannot see in it what others do. It's a bunch of nameless, personality-less women running around in the dark in a cave with some awfully heavy-handed symbolism thrown in for good measure. Not knocking anyone who enjoys it, but that one just ain't for me.
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