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I'd say we keep Camp Crystal Lake, Jason still hates promiscuous teens and the tradition of the final girl remains intact. Let's also defy modern PC culture by still going for bags full of T&A, blood and gore. A clever screenwriter can make Jason and the final girl philosophical opposites and likes at the same time, offering both an interesting "backstory" without going for the obvious coincidence of the two of them being related. But all of this must be in balance. Too much visceral slashing (say, under Rob Zombie's direction) might stray too far away from the "heart and soul" of the series, while too much introspective contemplation might kill the mood.
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As for another rumour:
Director David Gordon Green is possibly returning to direct 2 Halloween sequels back-to-back.
https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3571159/halloween-rumor-david-gordon-green-returning-direct-back-back-sequels/
What i'd like, is the equivalent of Curse Of Chucky. Now here's the thing, I don't like it when we are told to forget x number of films in a series. However... Jason X paints the series quite firmly into a corner. We go from 2010 to 2455. The only way forward I could see, that also keeps Jason X as part of 'My Timeline' was to say that the Jason of Jason X, that becomes Uber Jason, and ends the film on Earth 2, wasn't the real Jason. It was a clone. We don't know what exactly was going on deep down in the Crystal Lake Research Facility. The problem there, is that 'my' F13 film is trying to get away from the sci-fi of Jason X. So sort of begrudgingly (I don't actually hate Jason X), I decided to act like those events never took place.
'My' F13 would actually be a sequel to JGTH but take place in 2019. Hell wouldn't be shown nor mentioned. In JGTH, it's said that the campsite was torn down 'years' ago. And those events took place around 2003.
So my overall idea is that after a multi-million dollar renovation, a big water park has been built on the land where the camp site once stood. There won't be any space, or body hopping. Jason will be dead and buried, beneath the park. Unbeknownst to the sketchy park owner. So with with Jason believed dead for years, the park is up and running. All is rosy. I haven't figured out how to resurrect Jason, but it will be early on.
Cast?
Jason would have to be played by Kane Hodder. I know that he has spoken about having trouble with his knees, after 35+ years of performing stunts, but I think he might be good one one last film. The rest of the cast would have the classic templates. The meek bookish one who finds the inner strength to survive, the bitchy one, the douchey one and the park owner would be unscrupulous. I'm thinking of possibly Jeffrey Combs for the park owner. I did also toy with the idea of bringing back Tina (Lar Park Lincoln). But as much as Tina is my favourite final girl of the series, Ii couldn't see Tina fitting with the more stripped back film.
As for director, I would go with Adam Green. Green is a massive F13 fan, and would most likely secure Kane Hodder as Jason. Writing duties would go to the Soska sisters (who I would also like to see direct an F13 film... maybe the sequel).
If it was up to me I think I'd go one of two ways. Either you go for a tone and story that feels like one of the classics. A campy, slightly comedic slasher movie that you would more likely remember for its nudity and gore than its wooden, stereotypical characters. Although don't get me wrong, I do enjoy these kind of movies, but what I'd really like to do with the franchise is take it even more seriously and create a slasher film, not a "popcorn slasher". A slasher film.
I understand that people want to be entertained and want to see young adults getting chopped up in many different ways, but that would still be there, but for once you build up an actual with development, interesting well thought out characters, a good story and a more interesting and dynamic tone that would distance this film from its predecessors, while still paying homage to the legacy.
My references for this "reboot" are films like Midsommar, Hereditary and Green Room, and before you say it, yes I understand these films don't fit within the slasher genre and could be considered more like art-house pictures, but I think the amount of thought, care and creativity that goes into films and stories like these could really benefit the genre and create something original.
As for the plot I would start with the characters and go from there. I've been doing a bit of this, and have decided we would have eight young adults who will be our main characters and victims throughout the film. Some will obviously be more developed than others, but each character would be vital to the story and their deaths will feel appropriate and part of the narrative.
I also think the idea of grief can be used more of a theme in this series, as it's basically on what the franchise is built off with the rampage of Pamela Voorhees after the supposed death of her son Jason. As for that, you're probably wondering about the timeline. I thought about setting it in the 80's, but I felt with now being in 2019 and the success of Stranger Things and IT taking all the limelight of 80's horror, I'm going to set this in modern-day and will be a reboot.
Although things have changed. So instead of Jason drowning in 1957 and Pamela Voorhees killing two counsellors and then continuing the murders years later in 1979, I'm going to combine the two events...
So, Jason drowns in 1979 and while a police search is being carried out for the young boy, Pamela believing him to be dead due to the counsellors, she kills several counsellors who had stayed behind even though lots of kids and a lot of the counsellors had been sent home. Although Pamela was caught and beheaded by one of the counsellors.
Our film set in modern-day is a group of modern young adults who for all different reasons have decided to get a job as counsellors, reopening Camp Crystal Lake after 40 years, but after a slow-build are stalked by Jason, who wants revenge for the death of his mother.
Sorry that's a lot :)
Also, re: Pamela Voorhees, I'd rather her not be front and centre. The series works better with Jason as the main antagonist. Rewatching the first film recently, I was surprised at how uninvolved I was.
Granted, that's an easy thing to say retrospectively, but....
I completely agree about Pamela Voorhees.
Would love to hear your thoughts on what I'd do with the franchise @CraigMooreOHMSS...
...although it's quite the read :)
I think we're on a similar line of thinking, @Denbigh
I especially think eight young adults is a fair number - not too few, not too much. I would add that it might be nice to have a non-counselor/slightly older character as one of the mains, ala Chief Brody's role in Jaws 2; perhaps a Sheriff who had a family member disappear (a wife, perhaps) near Camp Crystal Lake and has been waiting to catch Jason ever since, desperate for revenge himself. An older character would really anchor the film and provide an emotional centre amidst the teenage counselor carnage.
That might tie in with your exploration of the theme of 'grief', too.
You could heighten the anguish further by potentially having the Sheriff talk about how the Pamela Voorhees case went unsolved (at the time, he was still a deputy, maybe?) because nobody really cared about her, so he now feels personally responsible for the loss of his own wife and the deaths of the counselors.
Vengeance, thy name is Jason.
It's essentially the same sort of stuff as what Halloween '18 touched upon, but with a few adjustments to fit the Friday mythos.
Re: the town. Yes, definitely lots of potential to show how they feel about the history of the place.
So much to work with and yet no-one has the balls to make a new reboot haha :D
Let me do it! Haha I think structurally I would have it open with the main characters, introduce them and the final girl who will a lot more like a real human being and not rule under the rules of stereotyped characters. She's not a virgin or a kick-ass Jason slayer, just a character who is going through a lot. I had the idea of her unsure of her future and using that as her fuel, having another character, maybe a boyfriend who has got into a good college and is using the experience to boost his resume, so he's very aware of his future so is a bit more comfortable, whereas she yet completely clueless about what she'll do next, manages to fight back and survive. But I kinda want most of them to fight back, which is where the similarity to Green Room comes in.
So we introduce the characters, slowly build tension when they get to the lake, have an off-screen kill which effects the characters and moves the story forward. At some point before this we can have a campfire story and a flashback to the original murders which I imagine as one long shot going around the freshly found crime scene and then slowly zooming on the decapitated head of Pamela Voorhees. Then we go into the kills, which is also followed by remaining counsellors deciding to try and fight back and escape instead of just the final girl, but it will still probably end with her reigning victorious and escaping the hand of Jason who may or may not be dead.
....and make sure you kill the annoying one first! ;)
if you were to do a serious Jaws Sequel how would you do it? and again much like Friday the 13th don't say don't
as for Denbigh's question I think the idea of a documentary turned blood bath is interesting there are so many podcasts and videos about people doing stupid possibly dangerous things I think utilizing that culture to create a Friday the 13th movie (NOT a found footage film) I think the idea of us going into the woods to try and find out why people disappear or what monsters might lurk in them is interesting
As for Jaws.... i've never thought about another Jaws film. The first films is a stone cold classic, the 2nd was ok, after that it got messy. I don't think the series has enough legs for a new sequel. I would say the exact same thing for the Wishmaster series. I, personally, love the original Wishmaster. It is my favourite 90's horror movie. The 2nd one just barely scrapes by thanks to Andrew Divoff reprising his role from the first film. The 3rd film is straight up forgetable. Other than it not having Andrew Divoff as The Djinn, I don't remember anything about the film. The 4th film I do remember a lot about.... unfortunately.
Peninsula is set 4 years after Train to Busan and deals with a band of survivors trying to escape from the country ravaged by an unknown virus. Outside of the zombie threat, it seems like military remnant faction will serve as a secondary antagonist.
The same director returns, who says he will portray "more desparate and fierece" battle for survival while expanding the universe established in the previous film.
Scream is less likely (with the newly rebooted series) but I think bringing back to the big screen and creating a new and fresh story that's self aware about the current generation could be really interesting as long as it's not a 2-D cardboard cut out of a "self-aware, modern slasher".
As for A Nightmare on Elm Street. For me the films work best when they're as grounded as they can be and takes itself a little more seriously. Of course Freddy will be making jokes and Englund should definitely return despite doing a reboot, but it should still have an interesting story and characters as well as murder and dark humour.
Scream 4 already tackled remakes, so they're off the table.
Agreed on Nightmare though. Would be happy to have the big three icons on screen again.
Englund's getting up there in years and apparently, playing Freddy was physically exhausting. That said, if Englund should return, yes, absolutely, bring back the New Nightmare look, please! It was effective, scary, it had a bit of a child predator look and one hell of a set of Satanic eyes.
I wouldn't mind Walton Goggins to be honest. I think he's a vastly underrated actor who should be getting stronger and more elevated parts. He also has that distinct look that might work to his advantage under a layer of makeup.