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Perhaps we should start a crusade on his behalf.
How about the Justice, Equality and Recognition for Kevin campaign?
Better known as J.E.R.K. ;-)
:))
Better try www.kevinmcclorycommunity.com
This is the guy who had his website vote reset went it went against his favor when true Bond fans voted en masse against his Bond ownership (claiming the site 'got hacked') and told the courts in 2000/2001 that he suffered death threats via the internet (assuming those were from real people that time, not 'hacked'). These are some of the reasons the online fan community has very little sympathy for the man.
In the tech/IP field they call this patent-trolling.
"Is that who it was?"
Time to take out the trash. And send that man to Disney World :)
You might want to go with this ;-)
An Irishman in a miscarriage of justice case?! Shock horror. That's never happened before now, has it? New to British legal history that. ;)
And how about this Irish train announcer to deal with trolls?
I think he's just what we need here on MI6 Community!
Very good Draggers. They were all found completely 'innocent' though werent they?
I note Morgan is online at this very moment, I would like to ask him why he is so vehemently pro Mcclory?
Giving the bloke his fair dues (which I think I have done - I admitted he made a 'contribution') is one thing but just why are you so keen to push the idea that this guy somehow gave us Bond? Seems to me that you have gone beyond playing mere devils advocate and have some personal investment. I can only conclude you are a relative or have some such connection with Kev or are some sort of troll who clearly has a great depth of Bondian knowledge but prefers just to wind people up.
Do you have any opinions on any other topics?
I prefer to have my own opinion about Kevin McGlory. I don't know if I have the typical 'character traits' for a Bond fan....and I don't really care. Yes, for the most part he's quite a prick. It is a fact that he polluted the franchise with unnecessary lawsuits.
Still, the man did co-produce 'Thunderball'. One of my personal favourite Bond films and IMO Connery's best. The most 'aquatic' Bond films of the bunch, with wunderful expensive, sultry watersports locale. It was McGlory's passion for watersports that gave 'Thunderball' this unique look and feel.
Concerning 'Never Say Never Again', I do agree that the film was weaker than 'Octopussy'. But apart from being an unofficial Bond film, it still is a standalone action flick with wunderful acting. Barbara Carrera's Golden Globe nomination is easily forgotten, but what she did with Fatima Blush was delightful. It brought me back to the good old Rosa Klebb-days. Klaus Maria Brandauer gave us a wunderful rendition of Largo, IMO more psychotic and scary than Kamal Khan. Then Sean vs. Roger. I was asking myself: If ONLY Sean was Bond in 'Octopussy'. Also, I can still name three or four official Bond films that I consider weaker from a cinematic perspective than the unofficial 'NSNA'
So despite all the negativity surrounding McGlory -I do think the recent article on MI6's frontpage '10 Negative Ways Kevin McClory Affected The 007 Franchise' is actually insightful and quite good-, he clearly contributed to the Bond franchise. From a pure cinematic perspective, it is quite an interesting, almost soap-ish contribution.
Well Mcclory contributed practically zero to NSNA apart from his 'rights'.
And TB is ploddingly dull, in no small part thanks to the relentless underwater scenes. How many times do we need to see a bloke get his mask pulled off before it becomes boring? TB answers this question for you. And then does it another 50 times into the bargain.
Still, the man did co-produce 'Thunderball'. One of my personal favourite Bond films and IMO Connery's best. The most 'aquatic' Bond films of the bunch, with wunderful expensive, sultry watersports locale. It was McGlory's passion for watersports that gave 'Thunderball' this unique look and feel.[/quote]
Thunderball is quite an incredible film. It is my joint favourite Connery Bond along with From Russia with Love. Sure, some people complain that there are too many underwater scenes and that they are quite lengthy, but when watching the awesome remastered Blu Ray of Thunderball, the underwater scenes really stand out and are really ambitious.
Does it get that much stick?
TB is beautifully shot and features some great moments, but it's pacing is a little awry and certain scenes, such as the Junkanoo, seem to meander. It's probably top of my list in terms of Bond movies that need a good old trim. GF set a template, in terms of structure, that should have been capitalised on. I know GF itself suffers at points, with the Auric Stud scenes taking a bit of the sting out of the movie, but other than that it rattles along. I think they got a little carried away with the success of GF and took the 'bigger is better' approach a little too literally. It's saving graces for me are a beautifully assured performance by Connery, the best SPECTRE scene of the series, lush cinematography, Barry's score and the innovative nature of the underwater battles (although they totally overindulged themselves).
One could argue if either GF or TB was Sean's best. Despite the fact that I think FRWL is Sean's best Bond film, I think Sean's best Bond performance was in TB.
And GF, TB and SF share something unique within the Bond franchise: Together they won 4 Oscars ;-).
That's a difficult statement to qualify though, isn't it? Unless we have a definitive breakdown of what McClory did and didn't contribute.
@Gustav_Graves - I'd personally argue that DN is Connery's best. Ironically, I don't think he ever topped his opening scene. It's pure perfection.
Hmmm, but solely based on that scene @RC7 ;-)? I am talking about the entire performance.....but I think you too no?
I think he's cool as you like in TB, but almost too cool. I love his flippancy after the Volpe scene 'You can't win them all', but I never feel his Bond is under threat in TB. He cruises through it, albeit beautifully. I enjoy the duality of his performance in DN (which he also carries over into FRWL). By GF he is playing his 'too cool for school' Bond, which is massively enjoyable, but doesn't have as many facets as his DN/FRWL performances. Just my opinion.
We're better than this guys. If we can prove what McClory did and didn't do then fine, otherwise I'd suggest we don't fuel the fire of hatred.
"In 1958 Fleming approached McClory to produce the first Bond film. McClory rejected all of Fleming's books but felt that the character James Bond could be adapted for the screen. McClory, Bryce, Fleming and Jack Whittingham developed the new James Bond character through a number of treatments and screenplays. McClory, Fleming and Bryce settled on the screenplay Longitude 78 West (later renamed Thunderball) and went into pre-production."
"On arriving in Nassau McClory searched for possible locations to shoot many of the key sequences of the film and used the home of a local millionaire couple, the Sullivans, for Largo's estate."
If this is the case and 'Thunderball' was Flemings novelization of the final screenplay, then both McGlory and Fleming, together with Whittingham and Bryce, came up with SPECTRE and Blofeld :-). We don't know exactly which of the four person's screamed: "Let's call it SPECTRE and let the villain be called Blofeld!". Fact is, pure statistically McGlory was 25% of a group of four talented, creative people.
Regarding McGlory's producer's credits.....before we start slamming down McGlory, can SOMEONE in here be the 'research journalist' and find out exactly what he did during production of 'Thunderball'?
Did McClory create Largo? Domino? How much of the plot did he contribute to? That's what I mean. Wanting Nassau as a setting and underwater sequences is a pretty thin contribution. And at the core of TB, there is an amazing novel by Fleming. And who developed Blofeld? Again, Fleming. Granted, in the movies we see little of the character, but nevertheless, the puritan with a work ethic in crime is still there.
Sorry, you misunderstand me. I meant qualifying McClory's role as 'Producer'. We don't disregard Cubby and Harry's input, mainly because we don't have a full picture of what they did and didn't contribute, just anecdotes. What I'm implying is, there may well be decent elements to the picture that are attributable to McClory, we just don't know.