Rate the Various Categories - The Films!!! 2021 - Final Community Ratings

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  • edited May 2014 Posts: 7,507
    00Beast wrote:
    12. Fleming - N/A

    123/140 = 88%

    Here an explanation might come handy...

  • edited May 2014 Posts: 11,189
    1. Direction - 6
    2. Screenplay - 8
    3. Script - 7
    4. Plot - 8
    5. Action - 8
    6. Main Villain - 10
    7. Main Bond Girl - 8
    8. Bond - 7
    9. Sets - 6
    10. Music - 8
    11. Cinematography - 5
    12. Fleming - 7


    13. Supporting Cast - 4
    14. Main Titles - 2
    15. Plausibility - 5
    16. Pace - 4
    17. Editing - 3
    18. Tilt - 4

    I make that 110/150
  • Posts: 6,396
    Can you add your scores please @BAIN123?
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    jobo wrote:
    00Beast wrote:
    12. Fleming - N/A

    123/140 = 88%

    Here an explanation might come handy...

    I think @00Beast has already said that he is not familiar with the Fleming novels, so therefore it would be inappropriate to give a score for the 'Fleming' category.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,183
    1. Direction - 8
    2. Screenplay - 8
    3. Script - 8
    4. Plot - 8
    5. Action - 9
    6. Main Villain - 7
    7. Main Bond Girl - 7
    8. Bond - 9
    9. Sets - 7
    10. Music - 7
    11. Cinematography - 8
    12. Fleming - 7


    13. Supporting Cast - 4
    14. Main Titles - 3
    15. Plausibility - 4
    16. Pace - 4
    17. Editing - 5
    18. Tilt - 4

    117/150
    78%
  • edited May 2014 Posts: 7,507
    jobo wrote:
    00Beast wrote:
    12. Fleming - N/A

    123/140 = 88%

    Here an explanation might come handy...

    I think @00Beast has already said that he is not familiar with the Fleming novels, so therefore it would be inappropriate to give a score for the 'Fleming' category.

    Ok. That explains it. I hadn't registered before now that he never ranks that particular category.
  • edited May 2014 Posts: 1,596
    I haven't seen this one in quite some time, so a few of my ratings will be a little foggy so to speak.

    1. Direction - 8
    2. Screenplay - 7
    3. Script - 8
    4. Plot - 8
    5. Action - 9 - some great great sequences
    6. Main Villain - 7 - he's still excellent but feels a little TOO Miami Vice
    7. Main Bond Girl - 7 - her legs...
    8. Bond - 8 - his awful hair brings this down from 9
    9. Sets - 4
    10. Music - 6
    11. Cinematography - 7
    12. Fleming - 9


    13. Supporting Cast - 5 - more Q is always a good thing
    14. Main Titles - 3
    15. Plausibility - 4
    16. Pace - 5 - moves along nice and fast!
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt - 3

    113/150
  • Posts: 2,402
    The one thing I don't like about Kamen's score is that he changed the melody of the Bond theme in his score. I'm talking about the big, brassy chorus of the piece. It's always bothered me.
  • Posts: 4,762
    jobo wrote:
    jobo wrote:
    00Beast wrote:
    12. Fleming - N/A

    123/140 = 88%

    Here an explanation might come handy...

    I think @00Beast has already said that he is not familiar with the Fleming novels, so therefore it would be inappropriate to give a score for the 'Fleming' category.

    Ok. That explains it. I hadn't registered before now that he never ranks that particular category.

    Yeah, I've only read Moonraker and part of Goldfinger, so I wouldn't consider myself enough of a Fleming expert to give an accurate score in that area!
  • edited May 2014 Posts: 19,339
    LTK

    1. Direction - 8
    2. Screenplay - 8
    3. Script - 8
    4. Plot - 8
    5. Action - 8
    6. Main Villain - 10
    7. Main Bond Girl - 9
    8. Bond - 8
    9. Sets - 7
    10. Music - 6
    11. Cinematography - 7
    12. Fleming - 9


    13. Supporting Cast - 5
    14. Main Titles - 3
    15. Plausibility - 5
    16. Pace - 5
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt - 4

    114/150
    76%


    My favourite of Dalton's 2 films - easily !!

    CR 92%
    OHMSS 81%
    TB 78%
    GE 76%
    LTK 76%
    TMWTGG 73%
    AVTAK 70%
    GF 70%
    FYEO 68%
    TND 67%
    TLD 67%
    DAF 62%
  • edited May 2014 Posts: 7,507
    00Beast wrote:
    Yeah, I've only read Moonraker and part of Goldfinger, so I wouldn't consider myself enough of a Fleming expert to give an accurate score in that area!

    And that's completely fine of course! :)>- Actually it makes it more interesting to see a ranking from a Bond purist who is not heavily Fleming influenced. Puts everything into perspective.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
    Posts: 1,731
    Happened to watch this last weekend actually...

    LTK

    1. Direction - 6
    2. Screenplay - 5
    3. Script - 6
    4. Plot - 7
    5. Action - 7 (the Wavecrest sneak&escape sequence saves LTK from being below par i.m.o as the finale is dour)
    6. Main Villain - 8
    7. Main Bond Girl - 6
    8. Bond - 9
    9. Sets - 5
    10. Music - 7
    11. Cinematography - 5
    12. Fleming - 7


    13. Supporting Cast - 6
    14. Main Titles - 6
    15. Plausibility - 8
    16. Pace - 7
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt - 7

    116/150


  • Posts: 19,339
    AceHole wrote:
    Happened to watch this last weekend actually...

    LTK

    5. Action - 7 (the Wavecrest sneak&escape sequence saves LTK from being below par i.m.o as the finale is dour)

    Eh ? you mean the tanker trucks chase and setting fire to Sanchez is dour ??!!

    :O
  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
    Posts: 2,629
    LTK

    1. Direction - 7
    2. Screenplay - 7
    3. Script - 8 (A little too much cursing and violence)
    4. Plot - 9 (Perfect for it's time. Plus a rogue Bond was a new and great concept)
    5. Action - 9 (Wavekrest and tanker chase are awesome)
    6. Main Villain - 10 (Franz was one of the best)
    7. Main Bond Girl - 8
    8. Bond - 10 (Dalton outdoes himself from TLD)
    9. Sets - 4
    10. Music - 5
    11. Cinematography - 6
    12. Fleming - 8 (I could see Fleming writing this if he was still with us in the late 80s)


    13. Supporting Cast - 5 (One of the best ensembles for a Bond film)
    14. Main Titles - 2
    15. Plausibility - 5
    16. Pace - 5
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt - 4

    116/150
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,423
    Wow, a lot of votes. Keep them coming :D
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    edited May 2014 Posts: 5,080
    AceHole wrote:
    Happened to watch this last weekend actually...

    LTK

    1. Direction - 6
    2. Screenplay - 5
    3. Script - 6
    4. Plot - 7
    5. Action - 7 (the Wavecrest sneak&escape sequence saves LTK from being below par i.m.o as the finale is dour)
    6. Main Villain - 8
    7. Main Bond Girl - 6
    8. Bond - 9
    9. Sets - 5
    10. Music - 7
    11. Cinematography - 5
    12. Fleming - 7


    13. Supporting Cast - 6
    14. Main Titles - 6
    15. Plausibility - 8
    16. Pace - 7
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt - 7

    116/150


    The last six are out of 5, @AceHole.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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  • Posts: 4,762
    My Ratings Thus Far:

    GoldenEye- 97%

    For Your Eyes Only- 89%

    License to Kill- 88%

    SkyFall- 85%

    Thunderball- 80%

    Tomorrow Never Dies- 79%

    The Living Daylights- 79%

    A View to a Kill- 78%

    Casino Royale- 78%

    The Man with the Golden Gun- 71%

    Diamonds Are Forever- 70%

    Dr. No- 66%

    Moonraker- 61%

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service- 57%

    Goldfinger- 55%
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
    Posts: 1,731
    barryt007 wrote:
    AceHole wrote:
    Happened to watch this last weekend actually...

    LTK

    5. Action - 7 (the Wavecrest sneak&escape sequence saves LTK from being below par i.m.o as the finale is dour)

    Eh ? you mean the tanker trucks chase and setting fire to Sanchez is dour ??!!

    :O


    Sorry mate - but to my mind yes. A truck race on a bland desert road just doesn't do it for me, even though Dalton does give a great final performance - the staging/2nd unit action choreography just feels flat. I found TLD's finale far more entertaining.
  • Posts: 3,336
    LTK

    1. Direction - 7
    2. Screenplay - 7
    3. Script - 8
    4. Plot - 7
    5. Action - 8
    6. Main Villain - 10
    7. Main Bond Girl - 7
    8. Bond - 8
    9. Sets - 5
    10. Music - 6
    11. Cinematography - 6
    12. Fleming - 7


    13. Supporting Cast - 3
    14. Main Titles - 3
    15. Plausibility - 4
    16. Pace - 4
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt - 3

    107/150
    71,33%
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    Posts: 7,314
    Is it too late to join now?

    Licence To Kill
    1. Direction - 6
    2. Screenplay - 6
    3. Script - 6
    4. Plot - 6
    5. Action - 8
    6. Main Villain - 9
    7. Main Bond Girl - 4
    8. Bond - 7
    9. Sets - 6
    10. Music - 5
    11. Cinematography - 6
    12. Fleming - 6


    13. Supporting Cast - 2
    14. Main Titles - 2
    15. Plausibility - 3
    16. Pace - 2
    17. Editing - 3
    18. Tilt - 1

    88/150 - 58.7%
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    edited May 2014 Posts: 4,423
    @pachazo - Nope, I'm leaving this one open until midweek :-)
  • Posts: 7,507
    AceHole wrote:
    barryt007 wrote:
    AceHole wrote:
    Happened to watch this last weekend actually...

    LTK

    5. Action - 7 (the Wavecrest sneak&escape sequence saves LTK from being below par i.m.o as the finale is dour)

    Eh ? you mean the tanker trucks chase and setting fire to Sanchez is dour ??!!

    :O


    Sorry mate - but to my mind yes. A truck race on a bland desert road just doesn't do it for me, even though Dalton does give a great final performance - the staging/2nd unit action choreography just feels flat. I found TLD's finale far more entertaining.

    Well, taste is subjective. Personally I find the ending climax in LTK to be the very best in the series
  • edited May 2014 Posts: 7,507
    @barryt007: I am pretty certain your number calculation is incorrect, and that the correct number for your total score is 122/150. Not to nitpick. I just very much would like this film to do well! ;)
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited May 2014 Posts: 4,520
    1. Direction - 6
    2. Screenplay - 6
    3. Script - 6
    4. Plot - 7
    5. Action - 7
    6. Main Villain - 6 (Sanchez)
    7. Main Bond Girl - 7 (Pam Bouvier 8 Lupe 6)
    8. Bond - 8
    9. Sets - 7 (- 1 les because of end set.)
    10. Music - 6
    11. Cinematography - 7
    12. Fleming - 4

    13. Supporting Cast 2.5/5 (5/10)
    14. Main Titles - 3/5 (6/10) Since FYEO and inspecialy since Octopussy the maintitles till LTK are to dark, LTK be les worse of all them.
    15. Plausibility - 3/5 (6/10)
    16. Pace - 2.5/5 (5/10)
    17. Editing - 3/5 (6/10)
    18. Tilt - 3 (6.5/10)

    Total: 94/150

    Hard to get in to the movie, with the dark/violence sometimes for my taste. Big part of the suporting cast i not like, the things with professor and the other lead vilian. Moneypenny and Killifer oke. Felix, M, Q, Sharky and Della are the best. Thanks to those chacters there be some subtil drama and humor, whyle some of the other humor be out of place. Pam Bouvier be a great Bondgirl. I think LTK be example for QOS in drama and in production design, moost sets/locations looks good. The lair is to much, whyle the Casino is very welcome. Like the 3 songs a lot. The composed music is oke, but has sometimes to much violence bits. The soundtrack release be big disapointed. Movie be step back if we look to TLD and all movies since TSWLM, stil there be enough to like but also enough to dislike a lot. Movie ranking: 14/23. Back on his position where the movie stay before QOS be released, between TSWLM and Yolt.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Last chance to vote! ;-)
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Right then, let's round LTK up -

    Overall Bondian Scores

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 88.50%
    Casino Royale - 87.85%
    GoldenEye - 78.94%
    Dr No- 78.7%
    The Living Daylights - 78.61%
    For Your Eyes Only - 77.68%
    Thunderball - 77.47%
    Goldfinger - 77.23%
    Licence To Kill - 77.04%
    Skyfall - 75.4%
    A View To A Kill - 72.22%
    Tomorrow Never Dies - 70.20%
    Moonraker - 67.4%
    The Man With The Golden Gun - 61.33%
    Diamonds Are Forever - 56.05% 

    OK, so just behind TB and GF. But ahead of SF. That'll do, I guess.


    How does it compare with your own ratings/rankings?

    Mine = 88%, so considerably lower. I have LTK fourth in my rankings. I'm happy to see where it's ended up, but personally, I was surprised that it did not get into the 80% range.

    Whilst reading other peoples ratings, what stood out for you?

    Both the action, villain and Glen's directing; I was pleased to see so many people rate so highly. On the other end, both the score and cinematography, were as to be expect, rather poor.

    Feel free to comment, and another Bond coming soon!!!




  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited May 2014 Posts: 4,520
    Expect a lower ranking for the direction.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,423
    Look out! It's another Bond!

    You Only Live Twice

    /10
    1. Direction - 8 (sometimes bigger is not necessary better, but props to the Kobe Docks fight, and Gilbert's usual stylish direction)
    2. Screenplay - 6 (erratic)
    3. Script - 8 (underrated)
    4. Plot - 5
    5. Action - 8
    6. Main Villain - 6 (iconic, yes. Threatening, hardly.)
    7. Main Bond Girl - 8 (Competent, delectable, but hardly memorable)
    8. Bond - 7 (autopilot)
    9. Sets - 10
    10. Music - 10 (Barry's score is gert lush)
    11. Cinematography - 10
    12. Fleming - 5 (Dahl's kept the macabre elements one can find in Fleming's novels, but, you know, volcanoes and outer space)

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast - 3
    14. Main Titles - 5
    15. Plausibility - 2
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing -4
    18. Tilt - 4

    112/150= 74.66%

    Remember the first twelve categories are out of 10, and the latter six are out of 5



    These are my personal ratings -

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 93.33%
    Casino Royale - 92.66% 
    Licence To Kill - 88%
    Dr No - 87.3% 
    The Living Daylights - 86.66% 
    Goldfinger - 86% 
    Skyfall - 84.6% 
    For Your Eyes Only - 80.66%
    Thunderball - 80%
    Tomorrow Never Dies - 78.66%
    GoldenEye - 74.66% 
    You Only Live Twice - 74.66%
    Moonraker - 73.3% 
    A View To A Kill - 66%
    Diamonds Are Forever - 62.66%
    The Man With The Golden Gun - 62% 


    And my rankings -

    23. Diamonds Are Forever
    22. The Man With The Golden Gun
    20. Moonraker
    19. A View To A Kill
    17. You Only Live Twice
    16. For Your Eyes Only
    15. GoldenEye
    13. Tomorrow Never Dies
    11. Goldfinger
    9. Skyfall
    8. Dr No
    7. The Living Daylights
    5. Thunderball
    4. Licence To Kill
    3. Casino Royale 
    2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service 

    Hmm, a strange one. The plot and screenplay let YOLT down, but is it saved by truly outstanding artistry. I'm ranking it below GE as YOLT is lower on the Fleming rating, as both GE and YOLT have the same %.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    You Only Live Twice, 1967

    /10
    1. Direction - 8
    2. Screenplay - 7
    3. Script - 7
    4. Plot - 8
    5. Action - 7
    6. Main Villain - 8
    7. Main Bond Girl - 5
    8. Bond - 6
    9. Sets - 10
    10. Music - 10
    11. Cinematography - 8
    12. Fleming - 6

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast - 3
    14. Main Titles - 4
    15. Plausibility - 1
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing -3
    18. Tilt - 3

    107/150

    71.33%
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