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Comments
/10
1. Direction - 5
2. Screenplay - 6
3. Script - 7
4. Plot - 7
5. Action - 6
6. Main Villain - 4
7. Main Bond Girl - 6
8. Bond - 8
9. Sets - 8
10. Music - 7
11. Cinematography - 7
12. Fleming - 7
/5
13. Supporting Cast - 3
14. Main Titles - 2
15. Plausibility - 4
16. Pace - 4
17. Editing - 1
18. Tilt - 2
94/150
62,67%
1. Direction - 6
2. Screenplay - 7 (rape scene, Fields Stairs scene, Slate and Elvis :-q.)
3. Script - 7
4. Plot - 8
5. Action - 6 (Les because of Airplane: We going down together again! and Boat Chase. #-o. )
6. Main Villain - 8. Wolf in sheep clothing like Carver.
7. Main Bond Girl - 9
8. Bond - 8 (Much better then in CR!)
9. Sets - 8 ( - les because of Desert hotel and for being way to quike in Italy after the car chase.)
10. Music - 7 (Techno ~X( Boat chase X_X %-( End credits :-? )
11. Cinematography - 9.5 =D>
12. Fleming - 8
13. Supporting Cast - 4 (Not fan of Beam. But no 5/5 because of Elvis and Medrano. Extra credits for Mathis girlfriend.)
14. Main Titles - 4/5
15. Plausibility - 4.5/5
16. Pace - 3/5 (10 minutes longer have been nice and take some distence with camera for example.)
17. Editing - 3/5
18. Tilt - 3/5
Total: 114/150
Movie has subtil (dark)humor and lines/text. What i like from the plot is that not realy be refence movie, what some people expect. Production design, cinematography and big part of the plot are my favorite things from QOS. QOS is refreshing and much more original then people credit for. 60's/70's style of earlier Bond movies, somethings people wish for in years. Movie be a mystery with danger, susprence and very inspyred. Scene's like The guy at the airplane, visit to hotel, Airport scene with Mathis and Fields and Austria Party are example of great scene's of the movie.
QOS is movie who ask a lot of you like analyze/discover things after more views who creater more quitions and longer time of waiting on ansers. It does not have light of Tomorrow Never Dies, but plot should be taken even more serious then that one. Eliot Carver Legacy is back. The Lies of yesterday, are the future of Tomorrow!.
But there take a lot of time to spread the big story over 3 movies at the moment. I have my regets with this and more then 24 subject in CR and must admit i whas and mabey stil iam afraid for results and hope not losing respect for producers using this ''new'' R-rated/18+ subject and wil never be 100% prepated i think it is realy time Eon no longer hold things up. 4 years of wait til Skyfall is to much and in that movie there at things who i think are not needed. Whyle i agree the water story is not the real story is part of it in whole and time to contuned. Time to bring back Camile and Mr White.
The techno music and again over use Twine boat chase music for the boat chase and end credits should be over, but like the subtil asian (Hint to Skyfall) music. Overall i think this be score be even (2th) with Tomorrow Never Dies. My favorite number is Inside Man.
Bond 23 rank: From 16/23. Whas 14/23. Re-rank and at LTK and Yolt back to the old places before QOS whas released. After 4 views like as with CR iam almoost finish with Daniel Craig the setup with as highlight i have seen Skyfall 2 times, time to quite with holding things up. Also it is time for the new BD/DVD release!!!
1. Direction - 4
2. Screenplay - 4
3. Script - 5
4. Plot - 2
5. Action - 5
6. Main Villain - 3
7. Main Bond Girl - 6
8. Bond - 8
9. Sets - 7
10. Music - 9 (Arnold's best)
11. Cinematography - 9
12. Fleming - 6
13. Supporting Cast - 3 (positives: Fields, Mathis negatives: Elvis, Medrano, etc.)
14. Main Titles - 3
15. Plausibility - 4
16. Pace - 3
17. Editing - 1
18. Tilt - 3
Clearly not my favorite Bond film, but I believe my numbers reflect well. I find Craig a strong enough lead to enjoy the film as a whole but I don't find too much else to love.
85/150
So I am biased just because I do not like the film. I could also make the point that everyone who gave the film a high score is biased as well, but I merely expressed that I do not like the film, in ANY WAY AT ALL. It is not biased to say you do not like something on a thread which asks for the opinions of other people on Bond films. The funny thing is, if someone gave, say, Live and Let Die a score similar to my own, they would not be called bias. But no, since it is Saint Daniel himself no Bond film he could star in would possibly be bad. If I had given Casino Royale this mark, I could understand the outrage, but QOS is usually and consistently ranked in the bottom 5 of most Bond movie lists.
1. Direction - 5
2. Screenplay - 6
3. Script - 5
4. Plot - 5
5. Action - 4
6. Main Villain - 5
7. Main Bond Girl - 7
8. Bond - 6
9. Sets - 6 (Hotel set is the standout
10. Music - 6
11. Cinematography - 6
12. Fleming - 6
13. Supporting Cast - 4 (Did a good job with fairly flimsy material)
14. Main Titles - 2
15. Plausibility - 3
16. Pace - 2 (speeds up, slows down)
17. Editing - 2
18. Tilt - 3
Total: 81/150
Plenty of people dislike certain sections of the Bond films for various indiscretions, mine is overt humor, and others they find the plot too implausible or something etc. But you have given as whole slew of zeros. Why? Even Getafix, who does not like Skyfall, at least gave the cinematography a respectable score. (although, to be fair, Getafix did find it hard to focus on the cinematography, as he did not like SF that much - it's hard to enjoy, let's say the cinematography, again, when one's opinion on said Bond film, it's so discoloured. Perhaps I'm being a little harsh on Sammm04) I ask you to consider each category of the film, without any bias. Which is what a load of people have done. You just come off as someone who is rooting for score of QoS, to be low, it appears to me, anyway. Time and time again our favorite Bond films, come undone on this rating system. Take Thunderball for me - I love it dearly, but when the numbers are crunched it took a hammering, scoring 80% (ish). While Goldfinger, which I rank lower than TB, went exceedingly well, scoring 86%.
And don't give me any of this "Saint Daniel" bullcrap. I'm not too fond of his portrayal myself. Although he is horribly efficient.... ;-)
ps. Actually I've just noticed that I gave all three of Craig's "Bond Performance" ratings a nine... Still, there's something about Craig's portrayal of Bond that sits uneasy with me... Hmmm
Scores given by other members so far for QOS:
77%
78%
62%
33%
63%
62%
70%
65%
61%
61%
72%
62%
76%
57%
54%
Average score = 63.5%
I think you'll find, therefore, that there is no bias towards "Saint Daniel" as you put it. The highest score given is only 78%. That's not great.
Everyone here has given a fair reflection towards each element of the film,
That's what this thread is about. Scoring the individual aspects of a film rather than scoring the film as a whole.
And I graded every aspect of the film in what I deemed to be a fair way. Just because the grades are extreme, it does not mean I put little thought into it. I went through every single criteria and found no redeeming features in the film at all, in my opinion. Therefore, I should not have my vote, which I actually spent a reasonable amount of time formulating, discounted just because it was a bit extreme.
Overall Bondian Scores
On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 88.50%
Casino Royale - 87.85%
GoldenEye - 78.94%
Dr No- 78.7%
The Living Daylights - 78.61%
For Your Eyes Only - 77.68%
Thunderball - 77.47%
Goldfinger - 77.23%
Licence To Kill - 77.04%
Skyfall - 75.4%
Live and Let Die - 74.52%
A View To A Kill - 72.22%
You Only Live Twice - 70.27%
Tomorrow Never Dies - 70.20%
Moonraker - 67.4%
The Man With The Golden Gun - 61.33%
Quantum of Solace - 60.58%
Diamonds Are Forever - 56.05%
Thank God for Diamonds Are Forever. Needless to say I'm quite gutted, but not overly surprised.
May I ask, did you include my 14% in that result?
1. Direction - 2. Piss poor. Forster should be barred from cinema.
2. Screenplay - 4. Tedious but not horrible.
3. Script - 5. On the one hand, you have stuff like Bond and Mathis' interactions. On the other, stupidity such as Bond not making an effort to clarify things ("Hey, remember that dude you said I shot? Yeah, I never shot him.")
4. Plot - 7. It was just horribly managed.
5. Action - 1. Less said the better.
6. Main Villain - 2. Mathieu is a great actor. Greene is a pitiful character.
7. Main Bond Girl - 8. Olga is the one standout thing about the film.
8. Bond - 10. Daniel almost deserves an 11 for managing to deliver a performance this good in a film written so badly.
9. Sets - 3. Terrible MI6 in this film.
10. Music - 6. One of Arnold's more bland efforts.
11. Cinematography - 2. So many useless shots.
12. Fleming - 3. Very little in here and they used the title in a really, really stupid and forced way.
13. Supporting Cast - 2.
14. Main Titles - 0. Worst in the series.
15. Plausibility - 4. I actually like the use of the impoverished to show the effect "spy games" have on everyday people.
16. Pace - 1. Incredibly tedious.
17. Editing - 0. One of the worst edited films of all time.
18. Tilt - 1. I'll give one point for Daniel.
61/150
40.67%
Hopefully not TWINE MayDay... ;-)
Updated for StirredNotShaken ratings.
I whant to make a change for Skyfall, my earlier rank in January! whas based on my first view on 22 November 2012. I re-rank the movie to lower rank in the list a couple of weaks a go.
SKYFALL
1. Direction - 3 (4- 1)
2. Screenplay - 4 (Not changed)
3. Script - 6 (7 - 1)
4. Plot - 3 (4 - 1)
5. Action - 5 (6 - 1) Already mis with my first view 1 action scene more close to end and with my second this feeling be bigger.
6. Main Villain - 6 ( 7 - 1)
7. Main Bond Girl - 4 (Not changed)
8. Bond - 7 ( 8- 1)
9. Sets - 6.5 (7 - 0.5)
10. Music - 6.5 ( 7- 0,5)
11. Cinematography - 4 (Not changed)
12. Fleming - 1 (Not changed)
13. Supporting Cast - From 3/5 to 2.5/5 (6/10 to 5.5/10) Because of my opnion about M go from 7/10 to 6/10 and Eve from 2/10 to 1/10.
14. Main Titles -3.5 - 7/10 (Not Changed)
15. Plausibility - 2/5 - 4/10 (Not changed)
16. Pace - 2.5/5 - 5/10 (Not changed)
17. Editing - 2/5 - 4/10 (Not changed)
18. Tilt - 2.5/5 - 5/10 (6/10 to 5/10)
New total: 71/150 Old Total: 79/150. 8 Les points..
If i am correct and i must do 71:150 and 79:150 then it be now 47,3% and earlier 52,6%.
That's 5,3% les. 9 people vote for Skyfall so 5,3:9 = 0,58.
Skyfall - 74,82% the new score of Skyfall, insteed of the 75.4%
On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 88.50%
Casino Royale - 87.85%
GoldenEye - 78.94%
Dr No- 78.7%
The Living Daylights - 78.61%
For Your Eyes Only - 77.68%
Thunderball - 77.47%
Goldfinger - 77.23%
Licence To Kill - 77.04%
Skyfall - 74.82%
Live and Let Die - 74.52%
A View To A Kill - 72.22%
You Only Live Twice - 70.27%
Tomorrow Never Dies - 70.20%
Moonraker - 67.4%
The Man With The Golden Gun - 61.33%
Quantum of Solace - 59.40%
Diamonds Are Forever - 56.05%
I said at the beginning of mine that it needn't be included in the tally.
OCTOPUSSY!!!
/10
1. Direction - 8 (ideal blend between the fantasy of Spy, and the "realism" of FYEO)
2. Screenplay - 8 (tiger, tarzan, tennis etc...)
3. Script - 9
4. Plot - 10 (ingenious!)
5. Action - 8
6. Main Villain - 8 (underrated)
7. Main Bond Girl - 9 (genuine chemistry with Moore)
8. Bond - 9
9. Sets - 8
10. Music - 7
11. Cinematography - 8
12. Fleming - 8 (love the inclusion of Major D Smythe, and the whole plot is like something that Mr Fleming would come up with)
/5
13. Supporting Cast - 5 (superb and memorable)
14. Main Titles - 3
15. Plausibility - 4.
16. Pace - 3
17. Editing - 3
18. Tilt - 4
122/150 = 81.33%
Wow, I didn't know I loved OP that much!
These are my personal ratings -
On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 93.33%
Casino Royale - 92.66%
Licence To Kill - 88%
Dr No - 87.3%
The Living Daylights - 86.66%
Goldfinger - 86%
Skyfall - 84.6%
Octopussy - 81.33%
For Your Eyes Only - 80.66%
Thunderball - 80%
Tomorrow Never Dies - 78.66%
Quantum of Solace - 77.33%
Live And Let Die - 75.33%
GoldenEye - 74.66%
You Only Live Twice - 74.66%
Moonraker - 73.3%
A View To A Kill - 66%
Diamonds Are Forever - 62.66%
The Man With The Golden Gun - 62%
And my rankings -
23. Diamonds Are Forever
22. The Man With The Golden Gun
20. Moonraker
19. A View To A Kill
18. Live and Let Die
17. You Only Live Twice
16. For Your Eyes Only
15. GoldenEye
14. Octopussy
13. Tomorrow Never Dies
12. Quantum of Solace
11. Goldfinger
9. Skyfall
8. Dr No
7. The Living Daylights
5. Thunderball
4. Licence To Kill
3. Casino Royale
2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
Actually, thats seems about right.
/10
1. Direction - 8
2. Screenplay - 6
3. Script - 9
4. Plot - 8
5. Action - 8
6. Main Villain - 7
7. Main Bond Girl - 9
8. Bond - 9
9. Sets - 6
10. Music - 8
11. Cinematography - 8
12. Fleming - 8
/5
13. Supporting Cast - 4
14. Main Titles - 4
15. Plausibility - 4
16. Pace - 4
17. Editing - 4
18. Tilt - 4
118/150= 78.67%
A solid score for Octopussy.
Ranking no. 13
/10
1. Direction - 8
2. Screenplay - 8
3. Script - 7
4. Plot - 6
5. Action - 8
6. Main Villain - 8
7. Main Bond Girl - 6
8. Bond - 9
9. Sets - 8
10. Music - 9
11. Cinematography - 8
12. Fleming - 7
/5
13. Supporting Cast - 3
14. Main Titles - 2
15. Plausibility - 3
16. Pace - 3
17. Editing - 3
18. Tilt - 3
109/150
73%
The nuclear missile/disarmament theme, or the Faberge eggs? ;)
2. Screenplay - 7
3. Script - 7
4. Plot - 6
5. Action - 7
6. Main Villain - 7
7. Main Bond Girl - 7
8. Bond - 7
9. Sets - 6
10. Music - 6
11. Cinematography - 6
12. Fleming - 6
/5
13. Supporting Cast - 2
14. Main Titles - 2
15. Plausibility - 3
16. Pace - 3
17. Editing - 3
18. Tilt - 2
94/150
62,67%
2. Screenplay - 8
3. Script - 8
4. Plot - 8
5. Action - 10
6. Main Villain - 6
7. Main Bond Girl - 7
8. Bond - 9
9. Sets - 8
10. Music - 8
11. Cinematography - 7
12. Fleming - 8
/5
13. Supporting Cast - 4
14. Main Titles - 3
15. Plausibility - 4
16. Pace - 4
17. Editing - 4
18. Tilt - 4
118/150 = 78.6%
1. Direction - 8
2. Screenplay - 7
3. Script - 7
4. Plot - 7
5. Action - 7
6. Main Villain - 7
7. Main Bond Girl - 9
8. Bond - 9
9. Sets - 8
10. Music - 9
11. Cinematography - 9
12. Fleming - 7
/5
13. Supporting Cast - 3
14. Main Titles - 3
15. Plausibility - 3
16. Pace - 4
17. Editing - 3
18. Tilt - 4
114/150 = 76%