Rate the Various Categories - The Films!!! 2021 - Final Community Ratings

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  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Last chance to vote - rounding this 'un up tomorrow!
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Overall Bondian Scores

    1. From Russia With Love - 92.0083%
    2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 88.50%
    3. Casino Royale - 87.85%
    4. The Spy Who Loved Me - 80.83%
    5. GoldenEye - 78.94%
    6. Dr No- 78.7%
    7. The Living Daylights - 78.61%
    8. For Your Eyes Only - 77.68%
    9. Thunderball - 77.47%
    10. Goldfinger - 77.23%
    11. Licence To Kill - 77.04%
    12. Octopussy - 76.61%
    13. Skyfall - 75.4%
    14. Live and Let Die - 74.52%
    15. A View To A Kill - 72.22%
    16. You Only Live Twice - 70.27%
    17. Tomorrow Never Dies - 70.20%
    18. Moonraker - 67.4%
    19. The World Is Not Enough - 63.85%
    20. The Man With The Golden Gun - 61.33%
    21. Quantum of Solace - 59.40%
    22. Diamonds Are Forever - 56.05% 
    (23). Never Say Never Again – 53.08%
    (24). Casino Royale 1954 - 52.24%
    25. Die Another Day - 39.92% 
    (26). Casino Royale '67 - 34.5%

    Right then. So, CR 54 beats out DAD and CR 67, and it was just a whisker away from defeating NASA as well; not bad for Mr. Bond's first venture out of the literary pages.

    Thank you to the contributors on this extended run down, rating and ranking the unofficial 007 films. Bless your heart.

    I'll see you in the countdown to B24 ;-)
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    Again, @royale65, thank you for the hard work you've put into this thread!

    Little less than a year when we will know where Bond24 sits in this ranking!
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    Yes, of course we have to update this list with every new release! ;)

    I have only the highest hopes and expectations for Bond 24. Hopefully it can give the top runners a run for their money!
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    I started this thread last December! Not a bad way to fill the gap until B24, methinks. ;-)
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Don't worry dear @Birdleson;

    This thread shall be revived just a couple of months before SPECTRE!!!!!!!
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    Are we going to do all the films again? If so, then im happy because i didn't get to vote on quite a few
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    edited December 2014 Posts: 4,423
    Indeed we are. I'm thinking of starting this thread up again in September. WE can compare the 2014 results to the 2015, and our own rankings, too.

    Thats an idea! @Birdleson. Maybe we can start it in the new year.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Rate the Various Categories – The Films!!!

    Yes, it is back. I think it is time to dust this thread off, post Spectre and see where the new Bond ends up. In approximately 24 weeks, we shall be celebrating James Bond Day – Oct 6th - day of the release of Dr. No in 1962.

    In this thread gentle readers, and like it's sister threads, Rate The Various Categories – The Musical Scores! and ”Rate The Various Categories – The Fleming Novels! ” we are going to do a little experiment. I have always loved numbers, and I think I have devised a good way in order to rate and rank the Bond films, in imperial ratings;

    I want us to rate the following categories, out of ten

    1. Direction (does the director do a good job?)
    2. Screenplay (the written form of a movie that also includes instructions on how it is to be acted and filmed. Is the screenplay balanced, or is it too inconsistent or erratic?)
    3. Script (A script contains the words, dialogue, actions for a film. DAF has an excellent script, but it has an average screenplay, just to give you some examples)
    4. Plot
    5. Action
    6. Main Villain
    7. Main Bond Girl
    8. Bond
    9. Sets
    10. Music
    11. Cinematography
    12. Fleming (does the film capture the spirit of Ian Fleming?)

    And these categories, these can make a good film into a great film, out of five

    13. Supporting Cast 
    14. Main Titles
    15. Plausibility
    16. Pace 
    17. Editing (e.g. QoS has iffy editing. I wanted to include this to differentiate between the directions and editors)
    18. Tilt (this category is a reflection of how you feel, just to provide a little human touch)

    Given us a grand total of 150.

    This way I think we have found a good idea of how our community feels about certain Bond films, quantitative anyways... . In time, how does this differ from your own personal rankings? I hope to generate some good discussions.  Sort of gut feeling into numbers. I know it is a waste of time trying to rate and rank the Bond films such, but I was trying to have some empirical evidence in our discussions, to see what our rankings were like, and if they match our my/yours rankings. And please, try to be objective in your reasons.
    At then end of this experiment we shall compare the 2014 results to the class of 2016. Which films have fallen, which films have risen and the films that are remarkably consistent.

    I shall be hosting one RANDOM film per week, until the first week in October. Right then, enough waffling, time to get on with it!

    First up is the iconic...

    Dr. No, 1962

    /10
    1. Direction – 9
    2. Screenplay – 9
    3. Script – 10
    4. Plot – 7
    5. Action - 6
    6. Main Villain – 10
    7. Main Bond Girl - 10
    8. Bond – 10
    9. Sets – 10
    10. Music – 6
    11. Cinematography – 9
    12. Fleming - 10

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 5
    14. Main Titles - 4
    15. Plausibility - 4
    16. Pace - 4
    17. Editing - 5
    18. Tilt – 5


    133/150 =88.66%

    Royale's Ranking -

    Dr. No, 1962 – 88.66%


    A damn fine start I must say! Over to you peeps!
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    Allow me...

    Dr. No, 1962

    /10
    1. Direction – 9
    2. Screenplay – 8
    3. Script – 9
    4. Plot – 8
    5. Action - 3
    6. Main Villain – 9
    7. Main Bond Girl - 9
    8. Bond – 9
    9. Sets – 10
    10. Music – 2
    11. Cinematography – 9
    12. Fleming - 9

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 4
    14. Main Titles - 4
    15. Plausibility - 4
    16. Pace - 2
    17. Editing - 3
    18. Tilt – 2

    113/150

    75.33%

    Mayday's ranking-
    - DN: 75.33%
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    edited April 2016 Posts: 5,080
    I have been awaiting this thread's revival! I await no more!
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Ah, a veteran of the Ranking games!
    I have been awaiting this thread's revival! I await no more!

    You're very sweet. ;)

    I was always planning to revive this thread. Now seems the right time.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,184
    GREAT TO HAVE THIS THREAD BACK!!!
    (Curious to see how my film rankings turn out this time.)

    Dr. No, 1962

    /10
    1. Direction – 9 (Young brought a lot of magic to this relatively cheap project without any existing template or known audience demands yet - and he absolutely nailed it!)
    2. Screenplay – 9
    3. Script – 8
    4. Plot – 6
    5. Action - 7
    6. Main Villain – 9
    7. Main Bond Girl - 10
    8. Bond – 9
    9. Sets – 10
    10. Music – 5
    11. Cinematography – 9
    12. Fleming - 9

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 4
    14. Main Titles - 3
    15. Plausibility - 3
    16. Pace - 4
    17. Editing - 5
    18. Tilt – 5


    124/150 =82.67%

    DD's Ranking

    Dr. No, 1962 – 82.67%
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    Dr. No, 1962

    /10
    1. Direction – 9
    2. Screenplay – 8
    3. Script – 8
    4. Plot – 6
    5. Action - 5
    6. Main Villain – 9
    7. Main Bond Girl - 7
    8. Bond – 9
    9. Sets – 10
    10. Music – 5
    11. Cinematography – 7
    12. Fleming - 9

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 3
    14. Main Titles - 3
    15. Plausibility - 3
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt – 5

    113/150

    75.33 %

    Tanaka's Rankings

    Dr. No - 75.33%



  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Dr. No, 1962

    /10
    1. Direction – 10
    2. Screenplay – 8
    3. Script – 8
    4. Plot – 6
    5. Action — 5
    6. Main Villain – 9
    7. Main Bond Girl — 7
    8. Bond – 10
    9. Sets – 9
    10. Music – 5
    11. Cinematography – 7
    12. Fleming — 9

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 3
    14. Main Titles — 3
    15. Plausibility — 3
    16. Pace — 3
    17. Editing — 2
    18. Tilt – 4

    111/150

    74 %

    GoldenGun's Rankings

    Dr. No - 74%
  • edited May 2016 Posts: 3,336
    Dr. No, 1962

    /10
    1. Direction – 10
    2. Screenplay – 9
    3. Script – 9
    4. Plot – 9
    5. Action — 8
    6. Main Villain – 10
    7. Main Bond Girl — 10
    8. Bond – 10
    9. Sets – 9
    10. Music – 7
    11. Cinematography – 8
    12. Fleming — 9

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 5
    14. Main Titles — 3
    15. Plausibility — 5
    16. Pace — 4
    17. Editing — 4
    18. Tilt – 5

    89,33%

    134/150
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    This film is an absolute masterpiece. The pinnacle of the series. It gets a 10 in every category from me. Except the score. I give the score a 6.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited May 2016 Posts: 4,520
    Dr. NO (1962)

    This time in correct order..;)

    1. Direction - 8
    2. Screenplay - 7 (Last time: 6)
    3. Script - 6 (Last time: 5)
    4. Plot - 6 (Last time: 5)
    5. Action - 6
    6. Main Villain - 6
    7. Main Bond Girl - 7
    8. Bond - 7
    9. Sets - 6
    10. Music - 7
    11. Cinematography - 6
    12. Fleming - 7 (Last time: 6)

    13. Supporting Cast - 7 (3.5/5) Last time: 6 (3/5)
    14. Main Titles - 8 (4/5)
    15. Plausibility - 5 (2.5/5)
    16. Pace - 6 (3/5) Last time: 5 (2.5/5)
    17. Editing - 6 (3/5) Last time: 5 (2.5/5)
    18. Tilt - 6 (3/5)

    108/150


    Ranking in my top 23 last time: 17/23
    Don't think the movie wil move to another place in Top 24 who i stil must make.


    UPDATE: Royale 65 don't whant work with half points, so those two i correct.

    13. Supporting Cast - 4
    15. Plausibility - 3
  • JohnHammond73JohnHammond73 Lancashire, UK
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    Dr. No, 1962

    /10
    1. Direction – 9
    2. Screenplay – 8
    3. Script – 8
    4. Plot – 7
    5. Action — 6
    6. Main Villain – 9
    7. Main Bond Girl — 8
    8. Bond – 8
    9. Sets – 9
    10. Music – 6
    11. Cinematography – 7
    12. Fleming — 9

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 3.5
    14. Main Titles — 4
    15. Plausibility — 2.5
    16. Pace — 3.5
    17. Editing — 3.5
    18. Tilt – 3.5

    Total - 114.5/150 = 76.33%
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    Dr No

    1. Direction – 8
    2. Screenplay – 8
    3. Script – 8
    4. Plot – 6
    5. Action — 5
    6. Main Villain – 9
    7. Main Bond Girl — 8
    8. Bond – 9
    9. Sets – 8
    10. Music – 4
    11. Cinematography – 6
    12. Fleming — 7

    13. Supporting Cast – 3
    14. Main Titles — 2
    15. Plausibility — 2
    16. Pace — 3
    17. Editing — 3
    18. Tilt – 5

    Total - 104/150 = 69.33%
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Last chance to vote. I'll be rounding this 'un up either Sunday, or Monday. Perhaps Tuesday.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    edited May 2016 Posts: 4,423
    Right gets get this show on the road.

    1. R65 – 133
    2. may - 113 
    3. dd - 124 
    4. tan - 113 
    5. gg – 111
    6. bs – 138
    7. sol -122
    8. vz – 104
    9. cs95 - 134

    1092/1350 = 80.88%

    I've decided to exclude the votes not ranking per the very specific and very pedantic rules – i.e. to have ones score out of 150 and then ones percentage mark. Also no half marks, there's a good chap. It's an awful lot of work for me, otherwise.

    edit - thanks to @Crazysoul95 for adding his scores. I should have know he would do that. Curiously I had 1350, which is 9 times 150, but without adding CS95 rankings to the overall scores, which gave me a lower %.


    Dr No 2014 Rating - 78.7%
    Dr No 2016 Rating – 80.88


    Reaction to the difference between the 2014 and 2016 %?

    Well, I'm positively shocked. How can a classic film such as Dr No be rated so low I ask!!!!! Much better after I altered the scores - a slight miscalculation on my part.

    Is it higher/lower than your own ratings?

    Mine – 86-ish% Forums – 79.96. Quite a considerable difference.

    What is your favourite category/element/thing about Dr. No? 

    Definitely Connery's performance. Close 2nd is the sets.


    Community Ratings 2016

    Dr. No, 1962 – 80.88%


    Community Ratings 2014

    Dr No, 1962 – 78.7%


  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    Reaction to the difference between the 2014 and 2016 %?

    That's quite a considerable change, but not entirely surprising. The forum demographic has changed a lot since 2014, and seems there has been an increase in either those who don't care for DN or who are indifferent. Personally, I have to agree with the score. I thought I was one of the few who feels DN is a bit of a vanilla entry, but clearly not.

    Is it higher/lower than your own ratings?

    My score is 75%, and I thought mine would end up being the lowest.

    What is your favourite category/element/thing about Dr. No?

    Ken Adams' wonderful sets and the leading Bond girl and villain.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Thanks MayDay!
  • edited May 2016 Posts: 3,336
    royale65 wrote: »
    Right gets get this show on the road.

    My workings -

    1. R65 – 133
    2. may - 113
    3. dd - 124
    4. tan - 113
    5. gg – 111
    6. bs – 138
    7. sol -122
    8. vz - 104

    958/1350 = 70.96%

    I've decided to exclude the votes not ranking per the very specific and very pedantic rules – i.e. to have ones score out of 150 and then ones percentage mark. Also no half marks, there's a good chap. It's an awful lot of work for me, otherwise.


    Dr No 2014 Rating - 78.7%
    Dr No 2016 Rating – 70.96%


    Reaction to the difference between the 2014 and 2016 %?

    Well, I'm positively shocked. How can a classic film such as Dr No be rated so low I ask!!!!!

    Is it higher/lower than your own ratings?

    Mine – 86-ish% Forums – 79.96. Quite a considerable difference.

    What is your favourite category/element/thing about Dr. No? 

    Definitely Connery's performance. Close 2nd is the sets.


    Community Ratings 2016

    Dr. No, 1962 – 70.96%


    Community Ratings 2014

    Dr No, 1962 – 78.7%



    You seem to have forgotten some people. Myself included.
    Edit: Didn't read your entire post, now i see why.
    Also added the score to my post to make it eligible
  • edited May 2016 Posts: 3,336
    Very dissapointing score for a great bond flick.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Thanks for doing that @Crazysoul95
  • edited May 2016 Posts: 4,044
    Is 80% a bad score?
    edit - d'oh I can't read
    edit -it's 70, it's 80, it's all so confusing - where is the Smirnoff?
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Next up is...

    The Man With The Golden Gun, 1974*

    /10
    1. Direction – 6
    2. Screenplay – 5 (turns into a slapstick comedy for the middle act)
    3. Script – 9 (mainly because of Scaramanga's lines and “forever hold your piece” gag)
    4. Plot – 7
    5. Action - 5
    6. Main Villain – 10
    7. Main Bond Girl - 4
    8. Bond – 8 (Moore gives us a more terse interpretation that usual)
    9. Sets – 7
    10. Music – 7
    11. Cinematography – 9 (this one it scores big on)
    12. Fleming – 6 (due to the leading men)

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 3
    14. Main Titles - 3
    15. Plausibility - 4
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing - 2
    18. Tilt – 3


    101/150 =67.33%

    Royale's Ranking -

    Dr. No – 88.66%
    The Man With The Golden Gun – 67.33%

    *I find if one does the pictures consecutively and chronologically, one gets into a funk, a routine. This way it shakes things up a little.

    Over to you peeps!
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    The Man With The Golden Gun, 1974

    /10
    1. Direction – 8
    2. Screenplay – 7
    3. Script – 9
    4. Plot – 7
    5. Action - 7
    6. Main Villain – 10
    7. Main Bond Girl - 6
    8. Bond – 9
    9. Sets – 8
    10. Music – 8
    11. Cinematography – 8
    12. Fleming – 6

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 2
    14. Main Titles - 4
    15. Plausibility - 4
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing - 3
    18. Tilt – 4

    113/150

    75.33%

    Same score as DN, weirdly enough.

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