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@TheLivingRoyale It doesn't matter what spin you put on it, every Brosnan Bond film after GE was not particularly praised. They all got mixed to negative reviews. That's not an opinion, its fact. That's what I meant by 1-3.
It isn't so much Bean's age (although his character should have been and looked older) as his presence, something makeup does not bring. Opposite to Dalton, at the time, he wouldn't have been imposing enough. He was right for Brosnan though, one example of an actor's shortcoming that actually serves him.
Nostalga aside GE is a lot of fun and a consistently enjoyable entry for me. The cast are very good and there's some terrific action. But it's flawed. Some of its underwritten and Broz is awkward and self-conscious at times.
CR is the all round better film and Bond film. It's better directed by Campbell (there aren't any shots of actors reading cards offscreen), more colourful and Craig outclassed Brosnan's debut performance.
Brosnan is still the face that often comes to mind for me when I think of Bond. Similarly when I see him in other films I usually think of James Bond. I grew up with him and will always have a bit of love for him, but it is pretty much a fact that with Craig they are trying harder to make more fully rounded films complete with proper characters rather than just bombastic action films with eye candy for teenagers.
Well said. I'm not criticizing Brosnan the man, although I do believe he acted childishly in interviews after his contract was not renewed, but rather the Brosnan Era and him as Bond.
4) The 10 most awkward scenes in James Bond films
http://whatculture.com/film/10-awkward-scenes-james-bond-films.php
Number 3 gets my vote. AVTAK was either the 4th or 5th Bond film I ever saw. At that point I'd just discovered Bond and Roger Moore had become my new hero. His age didn't matter. Either way this scene came up my jaw hit the floor. Why was Bond so readily and happily jumping in the sack with arguably the most frightening Bond henchman or henchman in history? It's just something that should've never seemed like a good idea.
This pretty much sums up my feelings.
"Nothing about this sequence is right. Nothing about it should have been allowed to reach celluloid. There was no Bond fan on Earth who wanted to see Grace Jones manhandle a tired Roger Moore. There was no human being on Earth who wanted to see Grace Jones manhandle a tired Roger Moore. Awkward? This moment practically redefines the word".
Are we still on this? I explained myself twice a couple days ago. If you want to keep discussing it be my guest but as a wise man once said,
"I'm not dwelling on the past. I don't think you should either".
http://whatculture.com/film/10-iconic-things-we-miss-from-classic-james-bond-films.php
Playing with the number of his name, is something there should not do the whole time.
I think Adele song are used on smart way,include the reference to Goldeneye.
Not realy a big fan of Elvis, but atleast there try and i must say Silva have mabey to much Hechman on that Island, whyle if Macau 1-2 have more have been nice. Postive point of CR be that Villiers have a woman.
Villainous Ambition. I think we get it slow back. I have a litle bit idea what Mr White/ Quantum whant. If there be one thing Skyfall not faild it be clear what Silva whant besides take revenge on M.
It be nice if Daniel Craig get Ski scene/Snow, other things are more inportent and based how it is done.
I whas happy Astin Martin be destroyd in QOS. So i agree, why alsways a car. Yes Bond should get trouble to get in somewhere or not get out the easy way.
Impossibly Expensive Lairs. Peter Lamont Ice Palace be a nice try, but the last one before skyfall house that realy be used very well be satelite in GE.
What i mis the moost be more varition in locations / culture in Bond movies. I also count under this the extra Bond girl in QOS and in Skyfall. Personaly i wish Bond be on that beach with her in Skyfall insteed of her home or get longer walk scene's on that beach.
5) 5 Reasons Why LTK is Actually a Great Bond Film
http://whatculture.com/film/5-reasons-licence-kill-actually-great-bond-film.php
Now you speakink my lahnguage.
5) I don't like Kamen's score. I find it to be rather bland and generic. It's Die Hard with the Bond theme thrown in. I also disagree with the author's point of it being one of the few non Barry scores that worked. Is he referring to just pre LTK or the whole series? I thought LALD and TSWLM worked very well. I'm certainly in the minority but I even liked the score for FYEO. I have mixed feelings about Arnold but I don't consider any of his offerings to be an outright failure.
4) Carey Lowell certainly had the looks but I find her performance to be mediocre at best. At times she was downright awkward. She came off as tougher than her predecessors but in the end I don't find her to be any different from some of the other poor actresses that got the job because of their beauty.
3) Besides the jet skiing scene I really don't find any of the action sequences to be "spectacular". I think that the tanker truck sequence is among the most overrated in the history of the series. It feels rather gimmicky, almost as if they were trying to see how many cool things they could do with a semi. Compared with the truck sequence in Raiders it falls completely flat.
2) Now this is one that I agree with. Robert Davi gave an inspired performance.
1) I'm not sure that this is Fleming's Bond. Dalton gave a good performance with what he had to work with but I don't like where the writers were going with this. I just can't see Fleming's Bond quitting his job to go on a murderous rampage all in the name of vengeance for Felix Leiter, of all people. I know that some members here have theorized that the death of Della reminded him of Tracy and that's what really pushed him over the edge but I just don't buy it.
Other than that, I love the film.
HHmmmm,
Tim fans love it.
A lot of Moore fan think it's too violent.
Fleming fans either love it or hate it.
Connery & Lazenby fans like it.
Craig fans like it a lot.
Americans like it a bit more than Brits.
Just my take here. Yeah, I'd say it the most divisive at the moment.
4. Pam is a great Bond girl IMO, third from best (behind Vesper and Tracy, don't think anyone will ever beat those two for me)
3. The action sequences weren't quite as good as the previous entry in the series, but the tanker chase stood out and the PTS was memorable as well.
2. Best Villain, full stop.
1. I'd say TLD is probably closer to the Fleming formula than LTK, but LTK is still closer than basically every film aside from TLD since FRWL.
Dalton is good but I prefer him in TLD overall I think.
The story, despite its occasionally generic feel, is compelling for the most part. However the end is something of a disappointment. I sometimes wonder if it would have been more effective to end the film after Pam picks Bond up and drives away in the tanker.
A solid 7/10 film but not anymore than that.
4) A Tough Bond Girl
3) Spectacular Action Sequences
2) A Believable Villain
1) An authentic "Ian Fleming" James Bond
Though I prefer The Living Daylights for it's class, it is still nice to see my 2nd favourite Bond film get the appreciation that it deserves. For what it's worth, I think Dalton perfectly captured the literary Bond in The Living Daylights. Licence To Kill goes somewhere beyond Fleming.
In a series where 'somewhere beyond Fleming' can mean Bond in space, I'm perfectly fine with Tim's version of it. :))
Now if I could just make a version of LTK with the score from DAF replacing Kamen's, it would be my #1 instead of #2... ;)
Along with YOLT, LALD, FYEO and OP, it certainly divides opinion around here. One of those films a great deal of fans either love or hate. Top 10 for me.
4) Going to have to disagree with this one. Lowell's performance is just too bland and wooden for me to consider her special. Dalton certainly got the short end of the stick when it came to leading ladies. I'd say he was the only Bond to never get a good actress to work with.
3) Defiantly agree. Not only is the tanker chase great but the entire underwater wave crest sequence is what I consider the best underwater action scene in the entire Bond series (not counting the Lotus from TSWLM as Bond himself isn't underwater). Those in Thunderball, FYEO, TND just dragged on and became redundant and boring.
2) Again I totally agree with this point. They really made up for Dalton's lack of good villains in TLD with Sanchez. Davi's inspiration from Casino Royale of Le Chiffre and Bond being "mirror images" of one another was an inspired direction to go in. Sanchez almost comes off as the evil hispanic 007.
1) Yes and No. Up until Daniel Craig I believed Dalton was the closest interpretation of Fleming's Bond. However I think they went too far with his disheveled look. It's funny in TLD I think Dalton was a bit too light-hearted and jokey and LTK I thought he was too serious at times. Maybe a perfect balance would've been reached with Dalton's 3rd film.
I know d'Abo has her fans but I never saw much in her. At her best she was mediocre/passable, at her worst he looked she didn't belong on screen with Dalton. Every other Bond had either a talented leading lady or at least a very memorable Bond girl (one who might not have been a great actress but made a big impression).
Connery- Ursula Andress, Honor Blackman
Lazenby- Diana Rigg
Moore- Jane Seymor, Maud Adams (I thought she did a great job)
Brosnan- Isabella Scorupco, Sophie Marceau
Craig- Eva Green (Maybe the best actress to be a Bond leading lady since Rigg)
Personally I wouldn't say she was wooden at all.
Thank you. THANK YOU, sir! =D>
Yes I'll give you that, but that doesn't necessarily mean she's not affective in the film.