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Incidently, what did your friends think of LTK @Birdelson?
Second, what??
Davi was known to me from Die Hard (funny that both Johnsons were in LTK) & Goonies, not TV. Zerbe was from Omega Man. Barnes was the only exclusively TV actor as far as I can see (Three's Company).
Crap, I learned something today! I did not realize before that Hawkins was from DH too. Include Kamen's music and we have a threesome.
DH was quite influential no doubt.
He definitely fits that shady figure very well.
There was nothing new about Craig's take on the role. He is doing a great job. But he and Brosnan simply continued what Dalton had started in 1986/87 . . . namely projecting more angst into the Bond character. It was Dalton who started all this angst factor for both the franchise and for other action characters over the years. Everyone else from Indiana Jones to John McClane to Jack Bauer to James Howlett aka the Wolverine to Tom Quinn have been following in his footsteps ever since. And Dalton doesn't even get credit for this.
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I didn't know that. I guess I knew him from LALD, so that was my context.
The others though for sure had a tv flavour. Even the Chinese agent (Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa) in the middle of the film - I'm sure I've seen him in some tv movies. Same with Don Stroud as Heller
How dare they!
Yeah but to be fair DH was briliantly directed and had the legend that is Alan Rickman.
Not really, but ya see how silly that TV vs. film elitism is?
The whole TV/film thing is less relevant now. You could say LTK was ahead of the curve on this as well. If anything, the best TV is now better than most Hollywood.
I don't really buy that. LTK was not exactly in the same league as Breaking Bad quality-wise.
I like LTK very much, but I have to admit there was a somewhat pedestrian quality to the casting. I felt the sameway about most of the 90's/00's mind you (except for GE and perhaps TND to a slightly lesser extent) - up until CR.
Supporting casting is arguably a meaningful differentiator between the Craig and Dalton eras, in favour of Craig.
You misunderstood me. I meant TV now is much better.
I tried watching Breaking bad hated it.
The first season is a bit slow but its great from the mid seasons onwards. Personally I think the last season is the best.
You sound a bit like my granddad. I always found it amusing that he seemed to disliked more contemporary TV/films than he liked (incidently he thought Daniel Craig was miscast and Sean Connery wasn't all that great in the 60s).
Try and stick with it. It's groundbreaking stuff imo. Very unconventional and somewhat eccentric.
Then again, I thought I would hate Dexter, and ended up loving that too.
I loved Dexter for the first 4 seasons but gave up half way through S5.
Anyway, we're a little off topic. My impression was that IN THE 80s a lot of American TV shows were a bit trashy with questionnable acting and limited production values. LTK does have this a bit.
5 & 6 were really bad (especially 6). 7 was a return to form but 8 was hopeless. Still better than a lot of other stuff out there but yes, it nosedived fast. S2 was my favourite (then again I'm a sucker for Jaime Murray).
The books are worth a go if you haven't read any of them. Same kind of feel as the show but different stories.
I really didn't like Julia Stiles in S5. Bad actress and annoying character.
I find it's such a fascinating and inventive premise. Same with Breaking Bad.
I loved Breaking Bad but never found Walter White inspirational it was the same with Soprano's it was utter genius but by the fourth season I practically hated every single character, I don't find it necessary to be able to relate to character for a series to be good. If you are relating to a murderous gangster or a serial killer I'm keeping far from you.
As for Craig being more successful than Dalton, you can relate some of it to the time and that Dalton was the right Bond and the wrong time but Dalton just didn't exude the charisma that Craig does as the character and outside of whether he read all the books and reflects the most Fleming any actor has in the series the general public didn't like him in the role.
As fans we see his strengths but to the masses they just saw a pretty serious and humourless actor who was more comfortable on the stage than on the screen. I'm not knocking Dalton as an actor, he's very good in the right role but despite him conveying some aspects of the character very well he also fell down as he was so different to Moore and coming only 2 years after a Bond who had dominated the role for 12 years he was always going have a tough act to follow, the general public loved Rog they didn't poor old Tim.
So Craig did not succeed; audiences did.