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When this film first came out there had been two underwhelming films (LALD and TMWTGG) and my understanding is that the Bond series was in real danger of petering out and just stopping. So to see a big budget, go for broke, escapist Bond film must have been a big thrill. I can see audience members thinking "All right! Bond is BACK!" in the same way that many of us thought when we saw GE. It's like when I finally saw FYEO. I thought it was okay to good, but thought "That was it? That's the one that everyone was raving about?". But then I thought of the people who saw it when it first opened, after having sat through MR a couple of years before. I can't imagine what a "Oh thank GOD!" feeling there must have been among those who didn't like watching laser gun battles with space marines (I had a similar reaction to seeing CR after wincing at the invisible car et al in DAD).
I must say that there were some good moments in TSWLM, but there were also some cringe-worthy parts as well. This was the only Moore film that the rep theatre has played (they've played DN, FRWL, GF, TB, OHMSS, TLD, CR, and QOS in the past) and it had the lowest attendance of all of the old Bonds I've seen there. It also had the quietest audience, although there were some groans at some of the cheesy lines and moments. To give some context, when Dalton first showed his face in TLD the audience cheered, which they hadn't even done with Connery in DN!
Although I was never a fan of Moore (there are some of his films that I've never seen outside of bits and pieces on TV) I certainly wouldn't say that I think that TSWLM is a bad film, or poorly made. It's just not to my tastes, although there were some nicely done bits such as the defusing sequence.
I think most people in the world seem to accept that.
When I saw TLD at the rep theatre it brought back a flood of memories and nostalgia. It was interesting to see the film without the opening weekend context. I still found Dalton's presence and performance impressive (although a little heightened) but the film itself seemed a little...smaller. Still good, and a treat to hear the audience cheer when Dalton turned around. I thought he had a nice light touch with the humourous lines and that he was quite charming (as did the rest of the audience based on their reactions). He also did a great slow burn and TLD has one of my favourite bits of humour in all the Bond films when Kara exclaims "We're free!" with a huge smile, and Dalton looks at her like she's insane and points out "Kara...we're inside a Russian Air Force base in the middle of Afghanistan..."
There were some knowing chuckles and murmurs of approval when Connery first said "Bond...James Bond" in DN but to hear the audience cheer Dalton...well, it felt a little like vindication!
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Then I matured and started seeing the flaws. Poor acting from Bach (who had to carry an important part in the movie), ridiculous similarities between this film and Gilbert's previous one, Jaws, an altogether not so brilliant plot and so on and so on. However, I still like the film, and for more than nostalgia's sake I might add. I'm one of the few who can appreciate Hamlish's music, I love the action scenes and Moore's performance is spot on. That said, I prefer MR over this one. Barry holds the key to that. ;;)
It was - and remains - highly rated among the regular Bond family of the '60s, '70s and '80s, as well as being Sir Rog's favourite among his 007 efforts. That should tell us everything, methinks... :)
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I never saw the Lotus Esprit in action, that's one of the most markable moments of the 70' cinema. I recognized some parts of the pursuit scene, because of the 007 Racing game intro - a Great game BTW - That was great.
I also like the part where he wears the tux. I guess everyone does like it, right? Those scenes can't miss in 007 films, if it does, that's not a Bond movie for me. Bond needs a party-with-tux every film, it's a must-have.
Also, I of course, recognized the Atlantis and Sub Pen parts, from Nightfire, after seeing the movie i see they are very close to the real ones, from the movie.
I didn't watch the other movies yet, but Moore climbed my rank now, being better than Craig for me (Brosnan's 1st, Craig WAS 2nd. Now he's 3rd) and i see how great was his epoch, yet i didn't see any other film yet, but planning to do it, soon.
And, repeating, i'm Brazilian, i don't know how to express myself very well as my english's not so good yet, so i don't know if u guys understand so much of what i've told here, i'm not a great Criticiser but i do what i can, lol. And of course, i've enjoyed a lot in watching TSWLM, kinda entering another Bond epoch, and seeing the Legacy that those great actores left for the actual ones, making Bond the best agent ever.
[Repeating the comment i did on my locked thread]
A new thread might get locked, but at least I would get my answer b4 it's locked, so lets test this out...
It is about the two guys that Stromberg blew up in the helicopter. Did they sell the Plans, too, or did Stromberg just want to kill them because he didnt want to pay them?
I think he killed them because he got what he wanted out of them and thought they could be a possible liability so he just killed them.