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Fassbender's Bond

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  • boldfingerboldfinger
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    Come to think of it, although he is a bit older, Waltz is crazy enough to be a Bond villain.
    He sure is, but very much like Mark Strong, he seems to be cast in the same role over and over again lately.
    I think both Christoph Waltz and Mark Strong would be excellent Bond villains, but in ten years or so.
    Then again, it would be a fantastic challenge for them to play a villain yet again and make something new out of it ;-) .

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @boldfinger, Waltz will be a protagonist in Tarantino's new film out December 2012, called 'Django Unchained'. Surprisingly, Leonardo Dicaprio will play the villain.

    But I agree with you, Strong would play an excellent villain. He's a great protagonist, too: 'Body of Lies' and 'The Way Back'.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    @boldfinger, Waltz will be a protagonist in Tarantino's new film out December 2012, called 'Django Unchained'. Surprisingly, Leonardo Dicaprio will play the villain.
    Kevin Costner and Will Smith are also in that film !
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited August 2011 Posts: 40,959
    @DaltonCraig007, Will Smith isn't. He was rumored to be in the lead role, but it went to Jamie Foxx, instead.

    As for Costner, last I heard, he was just a rumor. I hope he is, though, would be great to see him in a Tarantino film.
  • IndyfanaticyaIndyfanaticya
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    I would honestly enjoy watching a Nolan Bond film. But not with Fassbender. Nolan has that "large scale" production type that just draws me into viewing, but his films also have the cinematic brilliance of small Independant films. He did this well for Inception and even put in a few references to OHMSS.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited August 2011 Posts: 40,959
    If Nolan did a Bond film, I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to make someone like Dicaprio, Hardy, or Gordon-Levitt a villain or supporting character. Seems like he has a thing for re-casting actors he has already worked with in new films.
  • boldfingerboldfinger
    edited August 2011 Posts: 5,767
    If Nolan did a Bond film, I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to make someone like Dicaprio, Hardy, or Gordon-Levitt a villain or supporting character. Seems like he has a thing for re-casting actors he has already worked with in new films.
    I wouldn´t mind that at all. I wouldn´t even mind (what thread are we in right here ;-) ?) if he cast Hardy as Bond (now that would be naughty :-) ).
    What I would be rather afraid of would be a Zimmer score %-( . Inception and Sherlock Holmes had decent scores, but not decent enough that I would trust Zimmer.
  • forgotmyusernameforgotmyusername
    edited August 2011 Posts: 2,782
    a bit late to the party here. Watched X-men first class last night and my word - Assbender - for the first thirty mins going around on a revenge mission all over the world. He looked the part, tough, charming, ruthless. He had it all. I was totally convinced of his Bond aspirations.

    But...was his look down to the 60s setting that convinced me of his Bondness?

    And I liked the way he kept showing off his package like Connery did in his choice of tight trousers etc lol.
  • DoubleOhhSevenDoubleOhhSeven
    edited August 2011 Posts: 1,778
    Why is everyone in such a rush to see a new Bond? I even saw a fan poster of Bond 24 with Fassbender in the role. I can easily see Craig doing a total of 5 Bond films. If not atleast 4. They're still so much room for Craig to grow into the role even more. I really hope Bond 23 keeps its promise and is a more traditional Bond film as I'd love to see what Craig would do with that.

    As for Fassbender, am I the only one who doesn't see him as the right choice to follow Craig? With the physicality and intensity Craig has brought to the role in mind in don't think Fassbender would be right. If he were replacing a more light-weight Bond like Brosnan or Moore than maybe. I saw X-Men and he seemed kinda lanky and just not at all intimadating. I like my Bond to look like he could kick some ass. On the other hand he could make a very interesting villan. And yes I don't his acting chops are up to par to follow Craig's performances. Plus Im just really enjoying Craig's run and don't wanna see him leave anytime soon.
  • GeorgeLazenbyGeorgeLazenby
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  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    The more I see of Fassbender, the more I disapprove of him as Bond.
    There's something not right with his mouth. I'm not sold.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    The more I see of Fassbender, the more I disapprove of him as Bond.
    There's something not right with his mouth. I'm not sold.
    I agree, @Benny. Fassbender is a fine actor. He was well cast in X-Men FC. But he's no James Bond in my book. I can see him build up a great career. I merely doubt Bond will be part of that career.

  • forgotmyusernameforgotmyusername
    edited August 2011 Posts: 2,782
    Come on you all want him as the next Bond. That youtube clip above has more Bond in it than the last two Bond films. I loved his performance. And when he dispatches the bad guy at the end of the scene....oooooh I had to change my pants.

    May be it was the look, the direction or the actor but it was Bond through and through. I bet they did it on purpose as well. I will email some industry chaps to see if that was the case.

    But we can't have a Bond called Assbender though.


    Here's the best bit of x-men first class - nsfw - but soooooooooo funny:


  • GrantGrant
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    Why do so many people appear to want a different actor for the next Bond film? I might get slated for saying this but I think that deep down, on a subconcious level, many people might be disapointed with his Bond. He is the only Bond that my brother likes, even stomachs and that is a bit too marmite for me!
  • GeorgeLazenbyGeorgeLazenby
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    Come on you all want him as the next Bond. That youtube clip above has more Bond in it than the last two Bond films.
    That's a stretch...the last two Bond films have been pretty solid. I would say it has more Bond than most of the 70s and all of the 80s/90s films though.

    I loved his performance. And when he dispatches the bad guy at the end of the scene....oooooh I had to change my pants.
    I love when he fires the knife at that one guy and brings it back, stabs it back in the guys' hand and then takes a swig of his beer. This scene is a perfect example of Bondian swagger. We're fortunate to have Craig right now-- if First Class had come out during the Brosnan era it would probably have made me cry.
    May be it was the look, the direction or the actor but it was Bond through and through. I bet they did it on purpose as well. I will email some industry chaps to see if that was the case.
    It was all of those things...plus the music. Let's not forget the music. An all but forgotten element of Bond movies.

    But we can't have a Bond called Assbender though.


  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    You people make me laugh! Some of you are dismissing Fassbender mainly because you're so in love with Craig. When Craig was announced as the new Bond 9/10 people thought EON had lost their minds and that it was some elaborate hoax, hell today people still havnt come to terms with and accepted the fact that Craig is Bond and a bloody good one at that. That being said, what ever shortcomings people believe Fassbender to have is inconsequential. For starters, he's a very good and talented actor (watch hunger) and secondly any physical change can be applied. When Craig arrived at the press release, he was scrawny, had some arian moptop blond locks and quite frankly didn't look anything like how he ended up looking in CR. I would like for Fassbender to be Craig's successor because I believe he has what it takes to be really good in the role but I'm not willing to boot Craig out just yet. He's amazing as Bond as has at least, at LEAST 2 more movies left.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    You people make me laugh! Some of you are dismissing Fassbender mainly because you're so in love with Craig.
    No. Some are dismissing Fassbender because he doesn't appear to have enough of the Bond quality needed. It has nothing to do with Craig.
    When Craig was announced as the new Bond 9/10 people thought EON had lost their minds.
    Not true. Many were in favour of having Craig as James Bond.
    For starters, he's a very good and talented actor (watch hunger) and secondly any physical change can be applied.
    I agree.
    When Craig arrived at the press release, he was scrawny, had some arian moptop blond locks and quite frankly didn't look anything like how he ended up looking in CR.
    So? Moore and Brosnan hardly looked the part at their announcements either.
    I would like for Fassbender to be Craig's successor because I believe he has what it takes to be really good in the role but I'm not willing to boot Craig out just yet. He's amazing as Bond as has at least, at LEAST 2 more movies left.
    Yes, Craig's got a good while left yet in my opinion. Fassbender may be a tad too old or well known though when Craig does leave Bond behind him.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited August 2011 Posts: 15,713
    You people make me laugh! Some of you are dismissing Fassbender mainly because you're so in love with Craig.
    No. Some are dismissing Fassbender because he doesn't appear to have enough of the Bond quality needed. It has nothing to do with Craig.
    Who wouldn't have said the same about Craig in 1999 or even 2000 ?
    When Craig was announced as the new Bond 9/10 people thought EON had lost their minds.
    Not true. Many were in favour of having Craig as James Bond.
    Again - how many people were in favour of Craig as Bond in 1999 or 2000 ?

  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Moore and Brosnan, hell every actor pre Craig at least share the fundamental traditional look. Craig at his press release bared no traditional quality to what Bond should appear to look like other than being a white male.

    Additionally, there was more of an outcry at the disapproval of Craig's casting than initial support. As for Fassbender lacking the Bond quality, on what grounds? He's an actor portraying roles that are not James Bond. My point is, some of the same people that are championing Craig are the same ones who dismissed him initially and are doing the same with Fassbender.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited August 2011 Posts: 15,713
    We are talking of Fassbender as Bond probably 5 or 6 years before Craig leaves the role. So the question is : How many people were in favour of Craig as Bond 5 or 6 years before his casting in 2005 ? Meaning - circa 1999/2000.

    Here is Fassbender in 2011, about 6 years until Craig leaves the role :

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    Here was Craig in 2000, 5 years before getting cast as Bond:

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    Now, which of them, about 5/6 years before being possibly chosen as Bond, has the more 'Bond qualities'?
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Welll to answer that question, nobody. Craig wasn't on anyone's radar as a potential Bond. He was taking his shirt off and acting like a first class douche in tomb raider.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Welll to answer that question, nobody. Craig wasn't on anyone's radar as a potential Bond. He was taking his shirt off and acting like a first class douche in tomb raider.
    There. Craig wasn't a potential Bond to anyone in 2000, so what rules Fassbender out as Bond if he hasn't got enough 'Bond qualities' at the same stage of the Bond search ?
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    To be fair, when I saw Craig in Road To Perdition, I thought Bond instantly:

    http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2002_Road_to_Perdition/2002_road_to_perdition_003.jpg

    Granted, when they announced him in '05, my first thought was Oh! Really? Nooooo... but that changed very quickly.
  • forgotmyusernameforgotmyusername
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    you can't have logic and facts about how you feel about an actor. it's a hunch, something that you see in your mind's eye that makes you think wow or yeah.

    I get the same feeling for Assbender, i saw his performance for the first time in x-men and that was it for me. Wow. He just stole that movie and made me think DC better up his game or the script better deliver DC a winning Bond performance. Because I haven't scene BOND in the last 2 films and I can imagine B23 being DC'S last.

    Assbender for Bond is the way to go.

  • DoubleOhhSevenDoubleOhhSeven
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    Moore and Brosnan, hell every actor pre Craig at least share the fundamental traditional look. Craig at his press release bared no traditional quality to what Bond should appear to look like other than being a white male.

    Additionally, there was more of an outcry at the disapproval of Craig's casting than initial support. As for Fassbender lacking the Bond quality, on what grounds? He's an actor portraying roles that are not James Bond. My point is, some of the same people that are championing Craig are the same ones who dismissed him initially and are doing the same with Fassbender.
    You're way wrong on that one doubleoego. The casual fans were unsure of Craig but many purists, including myself, were very excited with his casting. Prior to CR I had seen Craig in Layer Cake, Munich, and Road to Perdition and I knew he could make a great Bond. It's not that Fassbender couldn't make a decent Bond it's just he couldn't follow Craig. Plus I generally like the idea of a British actor playing Bond. Connery was the one exception because let's face it Connery was the man. Dalton was Whelsh which is pretty close. Fassbender on the other hand can't get his accents right. In X-Men he goes from American to British to slightly Irish sounding all the while playing a Polish Jew. Brosnan had the same problem with inconsistancy.
  • shadowonthesunshadowonthesun Banned
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    Okay, if not Fassbender as the next Bond, then who should be?

    I recommend Enver Gjokaj:

    http://bestof.provocateuse.com/images/photos/enver_gjokaj_99.jpg

    He might be Albanian-American, but he could pull it off. He was Victor in DOLLHOUSE, and he was a secondary character until the writers realised how good he was at imitating the other actors and accents. This is him playing Topher, the resident geek:



    And I can't find any videos of it, but in the episode "Spy In the House of Love", he was given the personality of a proper English gentleman and was very James Bond.
    Assbender for Bond is the way to go.

    Very good. But very weird to cast James McAvoy as Vesper Lynd ...
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Moore and Brosnan, hell every actor pre Craig at least share the fundamental traditional look. Craig at his press release bared no traditional quality to what Bond should appear to look like other than being a white male.

    Additionally, there was more of an outcry at the disapproval of Craig's casting than initial support. As for Fassbender lacking the Bond quality, on what grounds? He's an actor portraying roles that are not James Bond. My point is, some of the same people that are championing Craig are the same ones who dismissed him initially and are doing the same with Fassbender.
    You're way wrong on that one doubleoego. The casual fans were unsure of Craig but many purists, including myself, were very excited with his casting. Prior to CR I had seen Craig in Layer Cake, Munich, and Road to Perdition and I knew he could make a great Bond. It's not that Fassbender couldn't make a decent Bond it's just he couldn't follow Craig. Plus I generally like the idea of a British actor playing Bond. Connery was the one exception because let's face it Connery was the man. Dalton was Whelsh which is pretty close. Fassbender on the other hand can't get his accents right. In X-Men he goes from American to British to slightly Irish sounding all the while playing a Polish Jew. Brosnan had the same problem with inconsistancy.
    I'm not wrong. I knew Craig would be a good actor because I've followed his career but as Bond? and with the way EON were taking the series? It just seemed like an odd fit. Secondly, I said some people not all dismissed Craig when he was first announced. Thirdly, Connery IS British. Youre confusing British with English and that being said, Moore and Craig are the only 2 English actors to portray Bond. As for Fassbender's accent, his British/English accent in Inglorious Bastards was fine.

  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited August 2011 Posts: 13,355
    When Craig was announced as the new Bond 9/10 people thought EON had lost their minds.
    Not true. Many were in favour of having Craig as James Bond.
    Again - how many people were in favour of Craig as Bond in 1999 or 2000 ?
    I think that's the problem though. If someone is so talked about online now, this early in an actor's run as Bond I don't think they've got a chance of being cast. And Craig was still doing smallish roles around the early 00's. Fassbender may soon be a star.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    edited August 2011 Posts: 4,043
    Although I was aware of his career as far back as Our Friends In The North, still probably his finest piece of acting to date it was seeing him in Layer Cake that sold it for me but if he'd been announced before that I would have been pleased as I wanted a proper actor and not a manequin in the role.

    To be honest it might have not been here but certainly on commander bond I championed Fassbender when hardly anyone was aware of him and anyone who thinks he isn't got the chops to play Bond clearly haven't seen him anything of any real weight like Hunger, I'll go as far as say that he is as good as Craig as an actor and has made far more savvy choices as an actor than DC has outside of Bond and has already an impressive theatrical C.V.

    I just think MF will be far too big to be Bond come DC's exit and anyway like some I'd rather see more from Craig, I think he knows he's got to knock this next one out the park or his popularity in the role will start to wain. I liked him in QOS but I want to see the more suave Bond I want to see less of the thug, something like SC in FRWL.

    Fass as Bond is a nice idea but one I don't think will happen and that Xmen/ Casino mash up was dire. Look at what MF has done and what is to come in the next year from him, does he really need to be Bond? No I don't think so.
  • forgotmyusernameforgotmyusername
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    Erm, Mr. Actor would you like to be Bond and thus cement your name for the end of time in cinematic history. Nah I'll just keep on doing Jane Austen, playing mixed up Nazis, crap hitmen and playing with magnets thank you very much.

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