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https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a666575/quantum-of-solace-director-marc-forster-says-he-turned-down-skyfall/
https://www.firstshowing.net/2008/marc-forster-can-only-handle-one-bond-at-a-time/
But as far back as 2009, when Forster spoke about turning down the offer to do the next one, he said 'I feel like next time you should take it in a lighter and more humorous way'! So the results might not've been QOS pt2...
Yeah but no.
The buildup should have been more suspenseful, the stakes should have been higher, it should have been foreshadowed yet unexpected, it should have been graphic and less climactic. And Nomi should have suddenly been left to finish the mission on her own against paralysing odds.
Let’s stop excusing bad or unfit writers with unfortunate “circumstances” and try to raise the bar a little.
Are you kidding? She's one of the most polarizing characters in the series. This is a James Bond movie, not a Nomi movie. People already have a problem with her enough and that would've really been damaging.
Her whole replacing Bond as 007 was an infantile storyline, and she was severely underutilised. The entire plot did build towards his death, in the most boring manner possible. It wasn’t done with any finesse.
He could have still been a hero, and his death could have saved Nomi and the world etc. I suppose you think the whole world revolving around a character is good storytelling, but it’s not. It’s claustrophobic. Hey why don’t we make his arch nemesis and the most iconic villain his foster brother.
Blofeld died, Felix died and Bond died. Didn’t evoke any emotion in me as a viewer. It was like Game of Thrones killing of Sir Barristan and Littlefinger. They should have offed him like Ned Stark instead of like Boromir. Unarmed.
I will agree Nomi was underused though, I liked their dynamic. I just don't agree she should have supplanted Bond in terms of focus at the end.
The series has a habit of dropping the ball of great potential. If QoS had a more true sequel, the audience outside the fanbase if the series would have helped propel a 007 movie into more Oscar wins.
The Mission Impossible series has retained a large number of crew members from QoS for a reason...quality....the series' movies improved with critics each subsequent film with fresher ideas after MI3 while the DC films reverted to their tropes polluting and diluting the emotional pull of their main hooks (i.e M's death in SF, and Bond's death in NTTD).
For reasons other than storytelling and direction.
It should have embraced itself more, you know been a bit more intricate and psychological.
As it is, it was riddled with plot holes, no real character arcs, too much brooding/ambience, the shaving scene was wtf, bond standing broad legged (in the boat), being limited to Bonds POV, the villain’s motives, the lack of a suspense in the investigation, the final fight, nothing made sense, every character except M and Tanner was petty.
It tried to do a deep dive in a kids pool.
The plot holes I'll grant you, but they just don't bother me that much.
SF hasn't aged well for many reasons including this....not to discredit some of the strengths in the film such as Bond the style of Bond running to save M at the hearing.
SF borrowed a lot from QoS....not limited to Bond and Tanner driving in London in a black Range Rover while chatting it up in a tunnel with shots very identical in style as QoS in Italy.
Bond’s arc was supposed to be wavering trust for his employer, which could have been nicely intertwined with Silvas and M’s. It’s such a missed opportunity to create moral ambiguity but instead the shades of grey became black and white without any catalyst or exploration. M’s arc was about keeping her job, failing to stay alive was not an sufficient resolution to her story, only Silvas, who died before it happened.
Javier Bardem was charming but the character was childish and conveniently OP, and his scenes didn’t contribute more than furthering the very simple plot.
The entire third act, not the knifing, was poorly written. Bringing M to his family home without backup or arms, knowing Silva will come prepared, killed the suspension of disbelief entirely. Did he do it because he was reminded it exists during the psychiatric word association game. I mean come on.
I could go on endlessly.
It’s clear when writers lack ability in their craft and it’s clear when they aren’t very bright. It would have been more obvious if the consecutive films hadn’t continued to lower the bar.
People who like badly written films, like them for other reasons than the bad writing.
Well said. After QoS came out, people questioned whether his Bond was the good guy or not. The fact that SF writers dubbed it down to black and white truly made a critical error for DC's story arc with a missed opportunity. SF was over marketed.
After a long gap.
Still, it’d be interesting.
So you’re an actor as well as a writer/director? Do as not to clog this thread, please DM me.
He brought her back to Skyfall because he thought they still had the weapons there.
Remind me of Haines' bodyguard. Which scene was that, the one at the opera who gets shot on top of Green's car?
Guy Haines....another wasted potential plit point character who was never alluded to again in future Craig films.