Who Should Write the Next Bond Continuation Novel?

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  • Maybe give the book series a rest for a few years? I do think we're at saturation point.

    Since Eon is taking its time to develop Bond 26, I would like, during this time, to continue to see new instalments of the literary series being published. While it's true that we, literary fans, have no reason to complain, I don't think we're at saturation point yet. To have a new Bond novel in 2025 would be a great way to wait for Bond 26.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Maybe give the book series a rest for a few years? I do think we're at saturation point.

    Since Eon is taking its time to develop Bond 26, I would like, during this time, to continue to see new instalments of the literary series being published. While it's true that we, literary fans, have no reason to complain, I don't think we're at saturation point yet. To have a new Bond novel in 2025 would be a great way to wait for Bond 26.
    thedove wrote: »
    Maybe give the book series a rest for a few years? I do think we're at saturation point.

    Imagine me in the 1980's getting a new Bond book every year. A visit to the bookstore was always a treat and I loved to see the new Bond book on the shelf. It will be a few years built in as WAMTK was released in 2022. I wouldn't expect a book until 2025?

    Yes, I think a book a year would be good. In April, Kim Sherwood's 2nd Double-0 book A Spy Like Me will be released. Plus, she's confirmed that she's writing a third. So, while we may not be getting a full on adult Bond novel, we do have at least two more books to look forward to.

    My three realistic picks for a continuation novel author are: Guy Adams, Charles Cumming and in particular, Charlotte Philby. They can write good thrillers, and have experience in the spy genre. IFP should hire them over the next couple of years.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    thedove wrote: »
    Maybe give the book series a rest for a few years? I do think we're at saturation point.

    Imagine me in the 1980's getting a new Bond book every year. A visit to the bookstore was always a treat and I loved to see the new Bond book on the shelf. It will be a few years built in as WAMTK was released in 2022. I wouldn't expect a book until 2025?

    That would've been a great experience I'm sure. I was only born during Gardner's run so I missed out on that although I soon made up for it! The Fleming-Amis-Gardner-Benson classic era run will always be my favourite. Don't forget that as well as WAMTK in 2022 we had the OHM2S novella from Charlie Higson this year too.
  • MaxCasino wrote: »
    My three realistic picks for a continuation novel author are: Guy Adams, Charles Cumming and in particular, Charlotte Philby. They can write good thrillers, and have experience in the spy genre. IFP should hire them over the next couple of years.

    It's funny because both Charlotte Philby and Charles Cumming were asked what they would do with the Bond franchise. Obviously, the question was asked regarding the cinematic franchise, and not the literary series:
    To Charlotte Philby, author of acclaimed thrillers including The Second Woman and Edith and Kim, to be released in March next year, Bond’s death is “the most brilliant opportunity to flip the Bond mould, subverting some of the more dated tropes whilst retaining what is best about the franchise.”

    Her solution? “If it were down to me I would make the new main character of the next instalment Bond’s daughter (played by Florence Pugh?),” she writes. “She has the ideal genetic makeup — with a healthy dose of childhood trauma — to take up her father’s mantle, and the quest to avenge his death.”

    “In terms of tone, I would like a heady mix of the more cerebral — perhaps starting with her in her early 20s, studying psychology at Cambridge and being approached with a message that is a call-to-arms. Taking advantage of the scope for familial betrayal, young love, and the revelations of until-now secret Bond history, in my imagined revival — where the action, the far-flung destinations, and the sexiness that makes Bond, Bond, is carefully retained — the usual stereotypes are turned on their head, making the film something fresh, new, chilling and ludicrously entertaining, and – crucially – wholly recognisable.”

    [...]

    “You could do an origin story with Bond coming out of the Royal Navy as a ‘Commander’ and applying to join MI6,” suggested Charles Cumming, author of internationally bestselling spy thrillers including Box 88 and Judas 62.

    “Or he might be a young, trainee spy who becomes a Double-O and takes on the name ‘James Bond’ as a permanent alias.” Plausible though these ideas are, Cumming argues, “all that might take up a lot of unnecessary screen time. The producers could just as well make no reference to what happened at the end of No Time To Die and introduce a new James Bond to a new generation. Audiences won’t care how or why 007 has come back into their lives as long as the script is entertaining and Barbara Broccoli has cast the right actor to play him. Bond is like Hamlet or Sherlock Holmes. He’s eternal.”
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    I'd love a book a year from a new thriller writer.

    The first Horowitz book was seen as part of the 'guest author' series, but now he's done three, I suppose they're their own trilogy.
    So we've had the Gardner era, the Benson era, the guest author series (of three books) and the Horowitz trilogy. I enjoyed the Higson, but viewed it more as a curio than a full-bloodied entry into the Bond novel series.
    For my part, I'd like to see the future continuation novels to be like Horowitz's books, and take place in Fleming's world. I suspect most people that buy James Bond novels, would prefer this also, but I could be wrong.
    I don't want my Bond novels to reference facebook or whatever. I want a Bond that smokes and drinks too much and lives in the fifties or sixties. And I'd not mind a bit if he was written as a bit of a misogynist or whatever. I'm a grown up, I can cope with that.


  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    Maybe give the book series a rest for a few years? I do think we're at saturation point.

    Imagine me in the 1980's getting a new Bond book every year. A visit to the bookstore was always a treat and I loved to see the new Bond book on the shelf. It will be a few years built in as WAMTK was released in 2022. I wouldn't expect a book until 2025?

    That would've been a great experience I'm sure. I was only born during Gardner's run so I missed out on that although I soon made up for it! The Fleming-Amis-Gardner-Benson classic era run will always be my favourite. Don't forget that as well as WAMTK in 2022 we had the OHM2S novella from Charlie Higson this year too.

    Yes, it seems that IFP didn't leave us in the dark for the last couple of years.
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    My three realistic picks for a continuation novel author are: Guy Adams, Charles Cumming and in particular, Charlotte Philby. They can write good thrillers, and have experience in the spy genre. IFP should hire them over the next couple of years.

    It's funny because both Charlotte Philby and Charles Cumming were asked what they would do with the Bond franchise. Obviously, the question was asked regarding the cinematic franchise, and not the literary series:
    To Charlotte Philby, author of acclaimed thrillers including The Second Woman and Edith and Kim, to be released in March next year, Bond’s death is “the most brilliant opportunity to flip the Bond mould, subverting some of the more dated tropes whilst retaining what is best about the franchise.”

    Her solution? “If it were down to me I would make the new main character of the next instalment Bond’s daughter (played by Florence Pugh?),” she writes. “She has the ideal genetic makeup — with a healthy dose of childhood trauma — to take up her father’s mantle, and the quest to avenge his death.”

    “In terms of tone, I would like a heady mix of the more cerebral — perhaps starting with her in her early 20s, studying psychology at Cambridge and being approached with a message that is a call-to-arms. Taking advantage of the scope for familial betrayal, young love, and the revelations of until-now secret Bond history, in my imagined revival — where the action, the far-flung destinations, and the sexiness that makes Bond, Bond, is carefully retained — the usual stereotypes are turned on their head, making the film something fresh, new, chilling and ludicrously entertaining, and – crucially – wholly recognisable.”

    [...]

    “You could do an origin story with Bond coming out of the Royal Navy as a ‘Commander’ and applying to join MI6,” suggested Charles Cumming, author of internationally bestselling spy thrillers including Box 88 and Judas 62.

    “Or he might be a young, trainee spy who becomes a Double-O and takes on the name ‘James Bond’ as a permanent alias.” Plausible though these ideas are, Cumming argues, “all that might take up a lot of unnecessary screen time. The producers could just as well make no reference to what happened at the end of No Time To Die and introduce a new James Bond to a new generation. Audiences won’t care how or why 007 has come back into their lives as long as the script is entertaining and Barbara Broccoli has cast the right actor to play him. Bond is like Hamlet or Sherlock Holmes. He’s eternal.”

    I'd still trust them with writing. IFP likes to hire fans it seems (only Faulks may be the only non fan since Gardener), they should give them a chance.
    I'd love a book a year from a new thriller writer.

    The first Horowitz book was seen as part of the 'guest author' series, but now he's done three, I suppose they're their own trilogy.
    So we've had the Gardner era, the Benson era, the guest author series (of three books) and the Horowitz trilogy. I enjoyed the Higson, but viewed it more as a curio than a full-bloodied entry into the Bond novel series.
    For my part, I'd like to see the future continuation novels to be like Horowitz's books, and take place in Fleming's world. I suspect most people that buy James Bond novels, would prefer this also, but I could be wrong.
    I don't want my Bond novels to reference facebook or whatever. I want a Bond that smokes and drinks too much and lives in the fifties or sixties. And I'd not mind a bit if he was written as a bit of a misogynist or whatever. I'm a grown up, I can cope with that.


    I want Bond to stay as modern as possible. I feel that IFP has played it somewhat safe with five of the last seven adult Bond novels taking place in the past. That's one of the reasons that I hold Jeffery Deaver and Kim Sherwood in high regard. They were like Fleming: setting Bond in a present time. Bond was a modern character for his time. IFP should keep at least part of it that way. I still support more spin-offs for certain characters. Moneypenny, Double-00 and even Dynamite Comics' versions of M, Moneypenny and in particular Felix Leiter prove that these characters have as much life as Bond does. I'm somewhat surprised that IFP hasn't tried modern day villain spin-offs. I have a few ideas of my own. Hopefully my hopes and dreams for the future of James Bond (Literary, Film and Video Game) will come true, in one way or another.
  • MaxCasino wrote: »
    I want Bond to stay as modern as possible. I feel that IFP has played it somewhat safe with five of the last seven adult Bond novels taking place in the past. That's one of the reasons that I hold Jeffery Deaver and Kim Sherwood in high regard. They were like Fleming: setting Bond in a present time. Bond was a modern character for his time. IFP should keep at least part of it that way.

    I agree. While I applause IFP for bringing Bond back to his original time period after Gardner and Benson, as it was a breath of fresh air, I think it's now time to take Bond to the 2020s. As you said, Fleming set Bond in a present time and, after a decade or so of vintage literary Bond, and since the character is nowhere to be find on the big screen right now, it's now relevant for Bond novels to take place in present days.

    When the new cinematic Bond era has begun, and after three or four books set in the modern era, then it may be interesting for the IFP to return to the 50s/60s.
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    When I read about Bond using the internet, mobile phones or whatever, he feels less like the literary James Bond I'm used to.
    It's not a deal-breaker though, if a future novel were set in modern times I'd still buy it and look forward to reading it. I enjoyed the Deaver book, (the Boyd one less so), but I thought Horowitz was the man who really gave the Fleming fans something special to enjoy. I thought they were splendid tributes to the Fleming Bond.
    James Bond was a modern man in Fleming's day, sure. But so was Sherlock Holmes in Conan Doyle's books. Does that mean he should be written as a 2023 sleuth in continuation novels now? I don't know. As I say, it's not a deal breaker.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    When I read about Bond using the internet, mobile phones or whatever, he feels less like the literary James Bond I'm used to.
    It's not a deal-breaker though, if a future novel were set in modern times I'd still buy it and look forward to reading it. I enjoyed the Deaver book, (the Boyd one less so), but I thought Horowitz was the man who really gave the Fleming fans something special to enjoy. I thought they were splendid tributes to the Fleming Bond.
    James Bond was a modern man in Fleming's day, sure. But so was Sherlock Holmes in Conan Doyle's books. Does that mean he should be written as a 2023 sleuth in continuation novels now? I don't know. As I say, it's not a deal breaker.

    Sherlock Holmes has more books released in his world much more often than Bond does. I think it's time for IFP to learn more from Conan Doyle's estate. Don't be afraid to try new things. I'm still interested in Bond in any time period. Horowitz in particular, as you said, was fantastic for the job. I hope EON would listen to him on future story ideas. Setting him in Fleming's timeline is less of a risk in my viewpoints, though. However, similar to what you said, I don't want Bond being on social media while on a mission. It's WAY too out of character for him. As I said also, quite a few of the villains are just as relevant as Bond. Namely Goldfinger and Blofeld. Dynamite Comics proved that. I think IFP should look at their run as possible influences in the future.
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    I want Bond to stay as modern as possible. I feel that IFP has played it somewhat safe with five of the last seven adult Bond novels taking place in the past. That's one of the reasons that I hold Jeffery Deaver and Kim Sherwood in high regard. They were like Fleming: setting Bond in a present time. Bond was a modern character for his time. IFP should keep at least part of it that way.

    I agree. While I applause IFP for bringing Bond back to his original time period after Gardner and Benson, as it was a breath of fresh air, I think it's now time to take Bond to the 2020s. As you said, Fleming set Bond in a present time and, after a decade or so of vintage literary Bond, and since the character is nowhere to be find on the big screen right now, it's now relevant for Bond novels to take place in present days.

    When the new cinematic Bond era has begun, and after three or four books set in the modern era, then it may be interesting for the IFP to return to the 50s/60s.

    I agree with you as well!
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Heather Graham Pozzessere.
    Steven Spielberg.
    Lawrence Kasdan.
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    They may as well keep the Bond novels in contemporary times. Honestly, I felt it was pretty jarring reading Horrowitz’s WAMTK set in the 60s that features at least one action scene that felt it could have been in a modern spy or Mission Impossible film. Most of it felt less like a Fleming novel with all its pulpiness/escapism and more like a modern riff on a spy novel - a sort of John Le Carre type story almost. That and you’re never truly going to be able to channel an organic version of James Bond from that era the way Fleming could.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    007HallY wrote: »
    They may as well keep the Bond novels in contemporary times. Honestly, I felt it was pretty jarring reading Horrowitz’s WAMTK set in the 60s that features at least one action scene that felt it could have been in a modern spy or Mission Impossible film. Most of it felt less like a Fleming novel with all its pulpiness/escapism and more like a modern riff on a spy novel - a sort of John Le Carre type story almost. That and you’re never truly going to be able to channel an organic version of James Bond from that era the way Fleming could.

    I agree. I'd rather IFP try another spinoff character book over Bond going back to the past.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    I'm not at all keen on any more spin-offs as that only takes us further away from the main character who is, after all, James Bond. I'd much prefer to see a new series of contemporary-set adult Bond continuation novels by a new author or by someone with previous form like Charlie Higson. A return to the John Gardner or Raymond Benson approach to Bond continuation novels would certainly be welcomed.
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    MaxCasino wrote: »

    Fingers crossed it's a Bond. I would like another, this time full-size Higson; his book was just pure fun I thought.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    mtm wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »

    Fingers crossed it's a Bond. I would like another, this time full-size Higson; his book was just pure fun I thought.

    That would be great. Here's hopping it's a new adult Bond continuation novel as opposed to another spinoff project.
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    I'm hoping for some new blood, but Higson would be fine too. I hope they give him a lot more time, this time.

    Is it just me, or is anyone else completely not interested in Moneypenny and Young Bond stuff?

    Edit -

    While we're talking about continuation authors, here's my little 'post Benson' collection. The black Trigger Mortis was the Waterstone's special edition with the Fleming screenplay in. There are two FAAD and WAMTK because I bought the Goldsboro special editions too. They're really nice. But all these are first editions.

    Comy.jpg

    If I were to rate them, the Horowitz ones come out way on top, but I've enjoyed most of them, with only Solo being a disappointment I think.

    Special mention should be made of the Waterstones special edition of With a Mind to Kill. Look at those sprayed page edges!

    sexy.jpg

    I love stuff like that.

  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    I'm hoping for some new blood, but Higson would be fine too. I hope they give him a lot more time, this time.

    Is it just me, or is anyone else completely not interested in Moneypenny and Young Bond stuff?

    No, you're not alone in that. As a literary Bond fan I'm largely a traditionalist who wants an adult Bond continuation novel above all else. Of course I don't mind experimentation with the plot and the form of said Bond novels as even Ian Fleming himself did that. Spinoffs like Young Bond, The Moneypenny Diaries and the new Double O series of novels by Kim Sherwood are of much less interest to me sadly.
  • Hey, if Nolan really wants to make a period Bond film but EON won’t let him, he should write it as a novel!!! Can you imagine? A new Bond novel written by Christopher Nolan? The hype would be unbelievable!
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    A name I hope is never attached to a Bond novel is assembly line writer James Patterson. Nor do I think a well-known writer is necessary. All I want is a good novel that feels as if it could have been written by Fleming, whether in the past or present.

    As for spin offs and 'young' books, not a bit interested. They may be successful books, but would they sell if the Bond name wasn't attached to those stories?
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    Yes, I don't care to have a famous name. I just want a well plotted page-turner.

    It's funny, when Gardner and even Benson did their run of books, the world wasn't that different to Fleming's day. Obviously fashions and politics had changed, but the last twenty years has seen a much bigger change than the 60's - 90's I think. Attitudes are certainly different now, and modern technology means a James Bond novel set in the current day will have a totally different vibe to Fleming's books. The further we get from the sixties, the more a character like the original literary James Bond becomes an anachronism. Any author setting Bond in current times will have a very hard job making the character feel like Fleming's Bond I think.
  • Higson did a good job of bringing Bond and his qualities into the modern day, and Bond does seem to have the reflective nature and confidence that we see in Fleming's novels. Carte Blanche did a good job at modernising Bond's environment in general, but fails in trying to erase Bond's flaws and overcorrecting totally (Bond not sleeping with a woman who wants him, being overly apologetic for his job, not taking the opportunity for revenge, etc.)
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    Carte Blanche didn't work for me by updating Bond's history to a modern war. For me Bond's history should always remain vague. We don't need to know dates and wars. It's enough to say he has experience. The focus is the current mission, not his past.
    For me the original Bond is still the same Bond. It doesn't matter the Bond introduced in CR would be a hundred years old. Fictional characters don't need to age in real time. It doesn't bother me that the original Bond couldn't have conceived of a home computer but that today's Bond is quite at home with technology. Case in point. A lot of us original fans made the transition from the dial phone to the mobile fairly easily. Only difference is we're much older. Bond isn't. Like his title, Deaver seems to have been given carte blanche.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    I don't want to be a downer, but it could be IFP starting up promotion on A Spy Like Me.
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    I don't want to be a downer, but it could be IFP starting up promotion on A Spy Like Me.

    While your likely right i am honestly hoping for an Adult Higson Bond Novel set in the current year
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    I don't want to be a downer, but it could be IFP starting up promotion on A Spy Like Me.

    Yes, I was thinking that too but hopefully it's something else.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Higson did a good job of bringing Bond and his qualities into the modern day, and Bond does seem to have the reflective nature and confidence that we see in Fleming's novels. Carte Blanche did a good job at modernising Bond's environment in general, but fails in trying to erase Bond's flaws and overcorrecting totally (Bond not sleeping with a woman who wants him, being overly apologetic for his job, not taking the opportunity for revenge, etc.)

    Yeah, there are things I enjoy about Carte Blanche (it has some good set pieces, the reinvention of Bond's position, and the best title of maybe any post-Fleming book!) but Bond himself feels absent to me in a way that he doesn't in the Horowitzes or Higson etc.
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    I don't want to be a downer, but it could be IFP starting up promotion on A Spy Like Me.

    I think you're likely right but fingers crossed. You'd hope they've always got a plan for a new Bond in progress as they don't really have many other things to print! :)
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    My hope is that much like how we got On His Majesty’s Secret Service the same time as we got double or nothing in the states we will get the same treatment this year with Higson doing his second contemporary bond novel
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    My hope is that much like how we got On His Majesty’s Secret Service the same time as we got double or nothing in the states we will get the same treatment this year with Higson doing his second contemporary bond novel

    That would certainly be the best case scenario and would ensure all parts of the literary Bond fandom are catered for.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    mtm wrote: »
    Higson did a good job of bringing Bond and his qualities into the modern day, and Bond does seem to have the reflective nature and confidence that we see in Fleming's novels. Carte Blanche did a good job at modernising Bond's environment in general, but fails in trying to erase Bond's flaws and overcorrecting totally (Bond not sleeping with a woman who wants him, being overly apologetic for his job, not taking the opportunity for revenge, etc.)

    Yeah, there are things I enjoy about Carte Blanche (it has some good set pieces, the reinvention of Bond's position, and the best title of maybe any post-Fleming book!) but Bond himself feels absent to me in a way that he doesn't in the Horowitzes or Higson etc.
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    I don't want to be a downer, but it could be IFP starting up promotion on A Spy Like Me.

    I think you're likely right but fingers crossed. You'd hope they've always got a plan for a new Bond in progress as they don't really have many other things to print! :)
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    My hope is that much like how we got On His Majesty’s Secret Service the same time as we got double or nothing in the states we will get the same treatment this year with Higson doing his second contemporary bond novel

    That would certainly be the best case scenario and would ensure all parts of the literary Bond fandom are catered for.

    I enjoyed Carte Blanche. I’m biased because it was the first Bond novel I read. I can see why some fans don’t like it. As for the announcement as long as it’s a new book (including promotion for A Spy Like Me), I’ll be happy. One spinoff I want is a modern day villain spinoff.
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