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That's called "backtracking"! Twitter-users?
That's called "moving the goal-post"
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts
Transformers is Transformers. MI6 Confidential is not James Bond.
No, I am bringing up "social media" as a means of film advertising, and I will stand by my assertion that younger people are the ones using social media to subscribe to or "like" some aspect of pop culture. Data showing the "average" age of Fb users is what is unreliable. I will go with anecdotal evidence on this.
But as Nick mentioned...Mi6 confidential as a fan Twitter account is not a good gauge. In fact, the James Bond (official) Twitter account has more followers than Transformers, which is of note.
Indeed. I am discussing U.S. BO numbers, not worldwide numbers. I can't comment on Bond's international appeal and the marketing efforts.
As for football: you might be surprised to know I need to head to bed soon so I can catch the Hull City / Newcastle match that comes on at 5:30 am here. :)
Edit:
This article puts the matter to bed once and for all:
theweek.com/articles/470510/skyfalls-recordbreaking-success-by-numbers
"75: Percentage of Skyfall's U.S. audience that was 25 years or older"
Let's move on.
I certainly saw a lot of older people in the theatre where I was (I saw the movie 3 times and it was the same each time) compared to the last two or Brosnan's Bonds.
I think that had a lot to do with its success. Perhaps the Queen tie in really did raise awareness among older people (who watched the jubilee event worldwide) and who then came out to see the movie later. Speculation on my part, but it may explain the older skew, which may have contributed to the increased box office take.
Also, I found this very interesting infographic about the colors used in movies today. Really IMO it shows Bond has always been very sensitive to the zeitgeist (in the 60s it created it, and now it follows it, I'm afraid you can't be revolutionary twice).
Skyfall is the "blue-and-orange Bond" movie, but actually lots of movies are like that nowadays !
Yes. The bottom line is that Skyfall's BO success was something more than just kids going to the movies and paying to see whatever. Skyfall was successful because it was a really good movie, with plot elements and themes that strike at the heart of the boomers, as well as Gen X. "Old dog, new tricks"..."grand old war ship, heading for scrap"..."there are no more shadows" etc. I think it pains the anti-Skyfall folks to see the connection between BO success and quality.
Very true. There was an almost anti-technology, old school vibe that permeated the movie, and this surely resonated with older folks who may be worried about the impact and prevalence of technology in our lives.
"Sometimes the old ways are best" as said by Eve when shaving Bond, along with all the other examples you cited. It was subtle, but it permeated.
Finally, Bond took out the tech wiz Silva with an old fashioned knife to the back......not a Walther, not a machine gun.
Capping it all off was the old school office and team.
The older crowd had won the old fashioned way.
I think there's not many 'anti-Skyfall' folks here, what we see is mostly a reaction to the claimby some that Skyfall is the only Bond movie that is actually a good movie !
As for BO and quality, well, I think that here the consensus is that Craig's best Bond is CR (the "figures aficionado" even have to admit CR has better "notes" than SF), and that Brosnan's best bond is GE (here the "notes" are even clearer). In both cases, the lowest BO of each actor...
No, It's the "shot-by-Roger-Deakins-Bond-movie" and the only film in the James Bond franchise to win an American Society of Cinematographers Award for Outstanding Achievement in Cinematography.
So what if it's blue and orange? It's the best looking Bond film of all time.
24 covered this last year and wonderfully so. EON really need to pull their socks up.
And the contrasts are remarkable.
The Shanghai scenes (representing the new, modern, digital world) are stark contrasts to the grim, gritty, back to basics world of Bond's childhood home, shot in grays.
It was just a beautiful film.
As does MR and OHMSS and TB and DN etc, etc. People need to understand cinematography before making sweeping statements. SF's main problem is that people see the word Oscar and start creaming their pants. It's not indicative of quality. Peter Hunt is arguably the greatest Director to helm a Bond film. It doesn't matter that he did nothing else.
I'll give you OHMSS (which may serve as inspiration for SP). TB has its moments. Not sure about DN (I'd have to see it again). But I wouldn't put MR in the class of OHMSS, or SF.
I think QoS is terrific-looking film, too. Unfortunately, because Forster didn't have the material to go with his vision, it came across as pretentious.
With what you wrote a few months ago and what you write now about John Logan, I thought you'd have stopped considering awards are relevant, but well, it doesn't seem so !
And well, let's say Sony's Skyfall looks very nice on a Sony Blu-Ray full of contrasts, as if it was done with that in mind :)
I agree. Bonds were always known for their beautiful cinematography as far as I'm concerned. It was one of the differentiating attributes of the movies in the 60s and 70s. Almost David Lean'esque with beautiful colours and sweeping panoramas. I travelled vicariously through these movies as a kid. I see SF as a return to form in this respect after a long period in the wilderness. QoS & CR also, but to a lesser extent.
;)
MR is, IMO, the most visually striking of the entire series.
I'll prefer these:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1074638/criticreviews?ref_=tt_ov_rt
It's wrong to like these reviews. Ask some people in here :-).
YES!!!!