Things you're tired of seeing in movies.

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  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Mack_Bolan wrote: »
    I’m getting really tired of seeing birds in movies.
    Hmm.
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    Mack_Bolan wrote: »
    I’m getting really tired of seeing birds in movies.
    Hmm.

    His favorite movie will surly not be "Angry Birds the movie"
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    Who can resist a parrot saying "Give us a kiss! Give us a kiss!"?
  • There’s also the case of overrating and overpraising a film that’s only average or slightly above average. Or going down the opposite route of giving the film an overhaul of negative reviews because it doesn’t politically align with their viewpoints. This decade has been full of them. Both of the instances.

    Take John Wick, for example. I love it. I love the whole series and I’m ready to watch the third one as soon as it comes out. But, it’s nowhere near the godly magnificence people are making it out to be. We have had action films in the eighties and nineties just as good, if not better. But, I didn’t hear the roaring positive reviews about them. Why is that? I’d say the bar has been lowered quite a lot!

    I think that this is a result of the fact that there just aren't that many decent (good, not great) movies anymore.

    The scripts have been watered down and formulaic.

    Directors have become mere vessels for studios who now control more than they should.
  • NS_writingsNS_writings Buenos Aires
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    There’s also the case of overrating and overpraising a film that’s only average or slightly above average. Or going down the opposite route of giving the film an overhaul of negative reviews because it doesn’t politically align with their viewpoints. This decade has been full of them. Both of the instances.

    Hi there, Atomic Blonde!

  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    There’s also the case of overrating and overpraising a film that’s only average or slightly above average. Or going down the opposite route of giving the film an overhaul of negative reviews because it doesn’t politically align with their viewpoints. This decade has been full of them. Both of the instances.
    Hi there, Atomic Blonde!
    Oh, don’t get me started on that one. :))
  • NS_writingsNS_writings Buenos Aires
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    There’s also the case of overrating and overpraising a film that’s only average or slightly above average. Or going down the opposite route of giving the film an overhaul of negative reviews because it doesn’t politically align with their viewpoints. This decade has been full of them. Both of the instances.
    Hi there, Atomic Blonde!
    Oh, don’t get me started on that one. :))

    The gunbarrel of SPECTRE alone is better than the whole Atomic Blonde.
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    There’s also the case of overrating and overpraising a film that’s only average or slightly above average. Or going down the opposite route of giving the film an overhaul of negative reviews because it doesn’t politically align with their viewpoints. This decade has been full of them. Both of the instances.
    Hi there, Atomic Blonde!
    Oh, don’t get me started on that one. :))

    The gunbarrel of SPECTRE alone is better than the whole Atomic Blonde.

    I disagree, I do hope for a second movie.
  • NS_writingsNS_writings Buenos Aires
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    SaintMark wrote: »
    There’s also the case of overrating and overpraising a film that’s only average or slightly above average. Or going down the opposite route of giving the film an overhaul of negative reviews because it doesn’t politically align with their viewpoints. This decade has been full of them. Both of the instances.
    Hi there, Atomic Blonde!
    Oh, don’t get me started on that one. :))

    The gunbarrel of SPECTRE alone is better than the whole Atomic Blonde.

    I disagree, I do hope for a second movie.

    I'm all in for it if they make it The Ipcress File 2.0 with a talented director like Campbell and they make a proper soundtrack instead of an iTunes playlist that turned potential great action scenes into a music video choreography. Ugh.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    SaintMark wrote: »
    There’s also the case of overrating and overpraising a film that’s only average or slightly above average. Or going down the opposite route of giving the film an overhaul of negative reviews because it doesn’t politically align with their viewpoints. This decade has been full of them. Both of the instances.
    Hi there, Atomic Blonde!
    Oh, don’t get me started on that one. :))

    The gunbarrel of SPECTRE alone is better than the whole Atomic Blonde.

    I disagree, I do hope for a second movie.
    Atomic Blonde was great, and I'd welcome a sequel.

    It was a great mix of Cold War espionage and modern action :)

    I'd rather watch that John Wick if I'm honest.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    SaintMark wrote: »
    There’s also the case of overrating and overpraising a film that’s only average or slightly above average. Or going down the opposite route of giving the film an overhaul of negative reviews because it doesn’t politically align with their viewpoints. This decade has been full of them. Both of the instances.
    Hi there, Atomic Blonde!
    Oh, don’t get me started on that one. :))

    The gunbarrel of SPECTRE alone is better than the whole Atomic Blonde.

    I disagree, I do hope for a second movie.
    Atomic Blonde was great, and I'd welcome a sequel.

    It was a great mix of Cold War espionage and modern action :)

    I'd rather watch that than John Wick if I'm honest.

    +1
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    Big superhero battles.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Big superhero battles.

    That go on too long.
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Big superhero battles.

    That go on too long.

    One more movie to go and than they lay that to rest one might hope.
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    SaintMark wrote: »
    There’s also the case of overrating and overpraising a film that’s only average or slightly above average. Or going down the opposite route of giving the film an overhaul of negative reviews because it doesn’t politically align with their viewpoints. This decade has been full of them. Both of the instances.
    Hi there, Atomic Blonde!
    Oh, don’t get me started on that one. :))

    The gunbarrel of SPECTRE alone is better than the whole Atomic Blonde.

    I disagree, I do hope for a second movie.
    Atomic Blonde was great, and I'd welcome a sequel.

    It was a great mix of Cold War espionage and modern action :)

    I'd rather watch that John Wick if I'm honest.

    John Wick is alright not so sure about the second movie. The fighting moves became to generic compared with the first one.

    As for the soundtrack of Atomic Blonde, I love that music as it is the soundtrack of my youth.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    SaintMark wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Big superhero battles.

    That go on too long.

    One more movie to go and than they lay that to rest one might hope.

    Marvel Studios should slow down a lot after 2019.
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    SaintMark wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Big superhero battles.

    That go on too long.

    One more movie to go and than they lay that to rest one might hope.

    Marvel Studios should slow down a lot after 2019.

    Would you if you were in charge of this virtual money machine?
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    SaintMark wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Big superhero battles.

    That go on too long.

    One more movie to go and than they lay that to rest one might hope.

    Marvel Studios should slow down a lot after 2019.
    It's quite funny you say that considering some of us are having a debate about whether EON should be more like Marvel over on the Production Diary page :D
  • NS_writingsNS_writings Buenos Aires
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    SaintMark wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Big superhero battles.

    That go on too long.

    One more movie to go and than they lay that to rest one might hope.

    Marvel Studios should slow down a lot after 2019.
    It's quite funny you say that considering some of us are having a debate about whether EON should be more like Marvel over on the Production Diary page :D

    This is ironic indeed! :D :D :D

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    EON should be more like Marvel if they can actually get their show in the road and delivery us a movie which has been in my humble opinion very long overdue.

    The scripts of the recent Marvel Movie have been well coordinated and well adapted from source material. They have been fun and enjoyable.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    I like Superhero movies, but I have seen only a tiny fraction of the films from the Marvel stables. Most of them are characters i'm just not interested in. There's over saturating the market, and then there is what Marvel is doing.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    I like Superhero movies, but I have seen only a tiny fraction of the films from the Marvel stables. Most of them are characters i'm just not interested in. There's over saturating the market, and then there is what Marvel is doing.

    Not to mention they make them so you have to see all of the others just so you're not confused. Happend to me with Infinty War
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    I really dislike reboots in franchises, Spiderman really takes the cake with three diffferent ones in a decade. Or Batman who keeps to be reinvented. Or 007 in the Craig era, can we just continue 007 with the next fella.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited March 2019 Posts: 5,970
    SaintMark wrote: »
    EON should be more like Marvel if they can actually get their show in the road and delivery us a movie which has been in my humble opinion very long overdue.

    The scripts of the recent Marvel Movie have been well coordinated and well adapted from source material. They have been fun and enjoyable.
    I'm sure if Marvel had hit the same problems Bond 25 has then they'd be in the same boat. Just look at what happened with Ant Man. Also, superhero/magic stories are much easier to craft story-wise because you can pretty much write yourself out of a plot hole with superpowers and magic. You can't really do that with spy and espionage thats trying to ground itself even more so in reality.
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Superhero movies. Seriously can we get a break?

    I'm also sick of hearing that the latest Superhero movie has broken box office records opening weekend. More often then not it's based on some comic hero I wouldn't have even bothered to read when I was a kid.

    Oh I feel your pain @ToTheRight. They just become one big blurry spectacle after a while. I long for the day of sober action movies with sober action scenes, low on cgi and other fx, when relatable characters were put in plausible situations and lived somewhat plausible stories in movies that had atmosphere. I'm all for the return of western, crime films and throw in a few swords and sandals for good measure.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited March 2019 Posts: 24,161
    I'm not sure I agree with you about superhero films.

    They are unmistakably popular, much more so now than they ever were before. One might argue that both their popularity and box office results are a grand deal greater than most of them deserve. However, superhero parables are exactly what we need right now. In these somewhat confusing times, people need 'fun' heroes to distract them and to dispell their fears. Cowboys, WWII veterans, Zorro type masked vigilantes and Greek demi-gods have somehow blended into modern versions of a stereotype that's been around for ages. With the technology (and budgets) finally available to present superhero stories in the same fantastical ways that their primary medium, the comic book, has for decades, it's no surprise that the market is flooded with them. It's the addictive popcorn entertainment factor that explains the mass-production of these films. But why must that be a bad thing? I understand superhero fatigue if you're not interested in this world, but for the ever-bullied and mocked fanboy, this feels like a second renaissance, like an actual realisation of long-cherished dreams. And fanboys are tough to satiate, which is why many of us actually are interested in seeing what Disney and Fox and Warner have lined up for us in the next ten years.

    I furthermore believe that the genre deserves more credit than many are willing to give it. While many a superhero film may come off as trite and been-there-done-that by now, some truly inspiring attempts at refreshing the genre have also seen the light of day. More than one superhero film has tried to address dark themes, topical issues, mature stuff. The allegorical potential of the superhero genre is, at least in my opinion, a given. I believe that in the near future, some interesting, more "niche" and clever projects await us. It would be premature to dismiss these films as "just another superhero flick", when some intelligent, thought-provoking stuff may be planned for us as we speak. Good films are independent of their genre; good films can be seen in any genre; and good films should never be dismissed, least of all because of their genre. Must I mention The Dark Knight? :)

    Let's not forget that superhero films aren't unlike the romcom in the 90s or the slasher flick in the 80s. They come in great numbers and we still have the freedom to pick and choose the ones we want to watch if any at all. It's true, however, that they are loud, heavily promoted and talked-about a great deal, and so, yes, it's much more difficult for the 'superhero challenged' among us to avoid them in all shapes and forms. There's a huge money-making machine behind them -- which makes sense because in order to present these adventures with the same spectacle with which they are drawn on the pages of a comic, the films cost unethical amounts of money, money that has to be earned back with a huge profit. The equation leads to one simple solution: if I keep watching them, they'll keep making them, and I'd be a hypocrite if I said I didn't want more of them. But to others, it can feel like there's no escaping them whatever one tries. I can see how that may lead to resentment.

    I for one do not, however, resent the likes of Disney and Warner for their aggressive efforts to make me share my hard-earned income with them. For years I've been yearning for the superhero stuff to leap from the printed medium onto celluloid. It is with great pleasure and gratitude that I now experience these adventures in a photo-realistic way, brought to life by charismatic actors and bombastically celebrated by musical themes and cues that secure a pleasant drive or a relaxed train ride.

    Of course, it doesn't help that, indeed, every next superhero film is heralded as the "best of the bunch so far". I guess that's just part of the Internet routine that pretty much every product -- from iPhones to Monster Energy drinks, from home theatre sets to Bond films -- must nowadays endure. Let's not get carried away by that sad byproduct of our commercial system. Such cheap tricks are easy to ignore in my opinion. As for the focus on the box office results, that too is of our own choosing. On this very forum, people have "concluded" that Batman v Superman is a terrible film because it "only" made so many hundreds of millions of dollars. I don't think the output of the superhero films is to blame for that. And besides, we are having those same debates about Bond films and Star Wars and such too. That's our dark side, nothing else.

    In summary; while I understand that some people are tired of seeing superhero films, I think they bring a lot of joy to those who momentarily need some. I also think that if there's one genre for which the advent of CGI can be celebrated, it is the superhero genre. CGI has enabled Hollywood to do things beyond our wildest dreams, and let's face it: CGI has come a long way but a lot of it really does look impressive and flawless these days. Superhero films are furthermore finally doing the comic book medium a lot of good, having renewed interested in comics since Iron Man and Avengers. One art form supports the other in perfect symbiosis. Lastly, superhero films aren't a thing of today. They replace the Greek hero drama's of old, the Zorros and Tarzans of grandpa's youth, and other constants. There's essentially nothing new about them, except that technological progress has finally caught up with them and we're finally able to make them happen in a technically superb manner. I would never speak ill of Superman The Movie or Tim Burton's Batman, but one must acknowledge the visual splendour of modern superhero films. Part of their appeal is that you do not merely believe a man can fly; you'll believe pretty much everything that happens on screen. Ten, twenty or even fifty such films may still not be enough to quench the thirst for more.

    This was a love letter from a superhero fan. ;-)
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    This was a love letter from a superhero fan. ;-)
    I personally don't dislike the films or how they're run, but I just don't want Eon to follow their example of how to run a franchise.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    This was a love letter from a superhero fan. ;-)
    I personally don't dislike the films or how they're run, but I just don't want Eon to follow their example of how to run a franchise.

    That, of course, is a tough one. EON must ultimately survive, and in order to do that amidst severe competition, EON has to make money. Disney is doing an exceptionally good job at that right now, so it must be tempting for other studios to follow their example. The tools and contents may be a bit different, as is the actual potential, but there's no denying the fact that a good business model is a good business model.

    I wouldn't be too worried, though. Seeing how passionate the EON folks still are about making a decent Bond film, how much time they're willing to invest in it and whatnot, I doubt that Bond films and spin-offs are going to roll off the assembly line at the dozens any time soon. Bond is not an entire character and events filled universe.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Superhero movies. Seriously can we get a break?

    I'm also sick of hearing that the latest Superhero movie has broken box office records opening weekend. More often then not it's based on some comic hero I wouldn't have even bothered to read when I was a kid.

    Oh I feel your pain @ToTheRight. They just become one big blurry spectacle after a while. I long for the day of sober action movies with sober action scenes, low on cgi and other fx, when relatable characters were put in plausible situations and lived somewhat plausible stories in movies that had atmosphere. I'm all for the return of western, crime films and throw in a few swords and sandals for good measure.

    I 'd love to see more westerns made in this day and age. Or detective film noir mysteries.
    Often, today Superhero movies tend to be shot in such a style that emulates classic noir. Nolan's Batman films for instance.
    I suppose I'm tired of the overall digital look of superhero films: digital color timing, digital CGI sets and effects, and CGI actions scenes. I liked WONDER WOMAN, except when it came to an action scene I got bored.
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    The impending storm.

    We get it...it’s a metaphor for a bigger conflict.
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