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  • timmertimmer
    edited April 2014 Posts: 4,622
    SaintMark wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service was slowly but surely going down, maybe it would be out by now had nothing changed...

    But perhaps the movie is just better than the folks who keep CR in the race against two iconical Fleming faithfull movies, but if you fancy a sinking house instead of acting that would be a reason.
    I can appreciate CR as a stand-alone Craig Bond film, but I do consider it a huge missed opportunity to bring the Fleming source material to the big screen. Fleming wrote an inconic spy thriller introducing a seasoned 00 agent on assignment at the exotic Royale Les Eaux, which Eon, IMO, turned into a non-sensical origins romp for the new mini-hulk, late '30s, blue-snuggered, freshly minted Bond on rampage.
    Maybe I'm being harsh but Fleming's brash but suave young agent, was barely recognizable.
    Maybe there were moments here and there, but not via the broader strokes, I don't think.
    The Vesper character I found to be miles off. Book Vesper was beyond redemption. She was looking at life in prison minimum, for high treason. Smersh had been running her for a long time. She killed herself because she knew Bond would hate her, when she was eventually forced to reveal her duplicity. She was a tragic but romantic figure.
    I can't relate to the sassy, Haggis dialogue-driven, smart talking, rather crabby interpretation that Green brought. New and improved Vesper I guess. I kind of liked the original though. You couldn't have paid me to spend a weekend with the new one.
    Fleming's Vesper though - I would have been suckered and completely under her spell, worse than even Bond was.
    Movie Vesper, as M pointed out, was salvageable. She was a blackmail victim, not a longstanding traitor.
    In the book, the "bitch is dead" line rings true. In the movie it seems like too much. Even M thought so.
    Plus there was the whole Miami sideshow, the origins nonsense, and other assorted extraneous elements.
    There was real opportunity here to do a two hour treatment of the Fleming novel, reintroducing Bond as the seasoned agent that Fleming gave us.
    CR06 IMO was a wasted opportunity, and there's all the Haggfish dialogue...don't get me going there.....
    Anyway, the movie can be enjoyed for it's own merits, so for those who like it, go nuts, but I'll never be terribly enthralled with this film. When I first saw it, I walked out of the theatre shaking my head, muttering "what has happened to my Bond?! Help!"
    I almost booked an emergecy session on Dr. Sir James Moloney's couch.
    But Instead, I sucked it up, went back, took my medicine, and saw the film a few more times in theatre.
    As a Bond fan, I digest what is served up, even if some entres do not quite stimulate the palate, as much as I'd like. I also endured Deaver's book, Boyd's book too. So be it. We roll.Long live Bond. ~O)

  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    Tuesday voting:

    FRWL: 25
    OHMSS: 17 (-1)
    CR: 28 (+1)
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    I must agree with you,@timmer, about using Montenegro as the location of Casino Royale. I always found it to incrogruent, and as you say, nonsensical.

    Wednesday voting:

    FRWL: 25
    OHMSS: 18 (+1)
    CR: 27 (-1)
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
    Posts: 4,341
    FRWL: 24 (-1)
    OHMSS: 19 (+1)
    CR: 27
  • Crazysoul95Crazysoul95
    Posts: 3,336
    FRWL: 23 -1
    OHMSS: 19
    CR: 28 +1
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    Posts: 13,978
    FRWL: 23
    OHMSS: 20 +1
    CR: 27 -1


    I have had love/hate feelings towards OHMSS over the years. It is currently ensconced in my top 5, so I am pleased to see it not going without a fight.
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    FRWL: 24 (+1)
    OHMSS: 19 (-1)
    CR: 27

    These are actually my top 3 films so its gone swimmingly for me.
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    Posts: 6,396
    timmer wrote:
    SaintMark wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service was slowly but surely going down, maybe it would be out by now had nothing changed...

    But perhaps the movie is just better than the folks who keep CR in the race against two iconical Fleming faithfull movies, but if you fancy a sinking house instead of acting that would be a reason.
    I can appreciate CR as a stand-alone Craig Bond film, but I do consider it a huge missed opportunity to bring the Fleming source material to the big screen. Fleming wrote an inconic spy thriller introducing a seasoned 00 agent on assignment at the exotic Royale Les Eaux, which Eon, IMO, turned into a non-sensical origins romp for the new mini-hulk, late '30s, blue-snuggered, freshly minted Bond on rampage.
    Maybe I'm being harsh but Fleming's brash but suave young agent, was barely recognizable.
    Maybe there were moments here and there, but not via the broader strokes, I don't think.
    The Vesper character I found to be miles off. Book Vesper was beyond redemption. She was looking at life in prison minimum, for high treason. Smersh had been running her for a long time. She killed herself because she knew Bond would hate her, when she was eventually forced to reveal her duplicity. She was a tragic but romantic figure.
    I can't relate to the sassy, Haggis dialogue-driven, smart talking, rather crabby interpretation that Green brought. New and improved Vesper I guess. I kind of liked the original though. You couldn't have paid me to spend a weekend with the new one.
    Fleming's Vesper though - I would have been suckered and completely under her spell, worse than even Bond was.
    Movie Vesper, as M pointed out, was salvageable. She was a blackmail victim, not a longstanding traitor.
    In the book, the "bitch is dead" line rings true. In the movie it seems like too much. Even M thought so.
    Plus there was the whole Miami sideshow, the origins nonsense, and other assorted extraneous elements.
    There was real opportunity here to do a two hour treatment of the Fleming novel, reintroducing Bond as the seasoned agent that Fleming gave us.
    CR06 IMO was a wasted opportunity, and there's all the Haggfish dialogue...don't get me going there.....
    Anyway, the movie can be enjoyed for it's own merits, so for those who like it, go nuts, but I'll never be terribly enthralled with this film. When I first saw it, I walked out of the theatre shaking my head, muttering "what has happened to my Bond?! Help!"
    I almost booked an emergecy session on Dr. Sir James Moloney's couch.
    But Instead, I sucked it up, went back, took my medicine, and saw the film a few more times in theatre.
    As a Bond fan, I digest what is served up, even if some entres do not quite stimulate the palate, as much as I'd like. I also endured Deaver's book, Boyd's book too. So be it. We roll.Long live Bond. ~O)

    That's pretty much how I felt from '97 to '02.
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    Posts: 7,314
    FRWL: 25 (+1)
    OHMSS: 18 (-1)
    CR: 27
  • JohnBarryFanJohnBarryFan
    Posts: 1,405
    FRWL: 24 -1
    OHMSS: 19 +1
    CR: 27
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    There will be no more changes in this game, just to clarify that. As promised, it will just play out now wether it takes two days or two months, it will not take two years.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
    Posts: 7,854
    FRWL: 24
    OHMSS: 18 (-1)
    CR: 28 (+1)

    Eliminated:
    4. Skyfall
    5. Licence to Kill
    6. The Living Daylights
    7. Dr. No
    8. For Your Eyes Only
    9. GoldenEye
    10. Goldfinger
    11. The Spy Who Loved Me
    12. Thunderball
    13. Octopussy
    14. Live and Let Die
    15. The World Is Not Enough
    16. Quantum of Solace
    17. Tomorrow Never Dies
    18. You Only Live Twice
    19. A View To A Kill
    20. The Man with the Golden Gun
    21. Diamonds Are Forever
    22. Moonraker
    23. Die Another Day
  • jobojobo
    Posts: 7,507
    FRWL: 25 (+1)
    OHMSS: 17 (-1)
    CR: 28

    Eliminated:
    4. Skyfall
    5. Licence to Kill
    6. The Living Daylights
    7. Dr. No
    8. For Your Eyes Only
    9. GoldenEye
    10. Goldfinger
    11. The Spy Who Loved Me
    12. Thunderball
    13. Octopussy
    14. Live and Let Die
    15. The World Is Not Enough
    16. Quantum of Solace
    17. Tomorrow Never Dies
    18. You Only Live Twice
    19. A View To A Kill
    20. The Man with the Golden Gun
    21. Diamonds Are Forever
    22. Moonraker
    23. Die Another Day
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
    Posts: 7,653
    FRWL: 25
    OHMSS: 18 (+1)
    CR: 27 (-1)
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
    Posts: 7,653
    timmer wrote:
    SaintMark wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service was slowly but surely going down, maybe it would be out by now had nothing changed...

    But perhaps the movie is just better than the folks who keep CR in the race against two iconical Fleming faithfull movies, but if you fancy a sinking house instead of acting that would be a reason.
    I can appreciate CR as a stand-alone Craig Bond film, but I do consider it a huge missed opportunity to bring the Fleming source material to the big screen. Fleming wrote an inconic spy thriller introducing a seasoned 00 agent on assignment at the exotic Royale Les Eaux, which Eon, IMO, turned into a non-sensical origins romp for the new mini-hulk, late '30s, blue-snuggered, freshly minted Bond on rampage.
    Maybe I'm being harsh but Fleming's brash but suave young agent, was barely recognizable.
    Maybe there were moments here and there, but not via the broader strokes, I don't think.
    The Vesper character I found to be miles off. Book Vesper was beyond redemption. She was looking at life in prison minimum, for high treason. Smersh had been running her for a long time. She killed herself because she knew Bond would hate her, when she was eventually forced to reveal her duplicity. She was a tragic but romantic figure.
    I can't relate to the sassy, Haggis dialogue-driven, smart talking, rather crabby interpretation that Green brought. New and improved Vesper I guess. I kind of liked the original though. You couldn't have paid me to spend a weekend with the new one.
    Fleming's Vesper though - I would have been suckered and completely under her spell, worse than even Bond was.
    Movie Vesper, as M pointed out, was salvageable. She was a blackmail victim, not a longstanding traitor.
    In the book, the "bitch is dead" line rings true. In the movie it seems like too much. Even M thought so.
    Plus there was the whole Miami sideshow, the origins nonsense, and other assorted extraneous elements.
    There was real opportunity here to do a two hour treatment of the Fleming novel, reintroducing Bond as the seasoned agent that Fleming gave us.
    CR06 IMO was a wasted opportunity, and there's all the Haggfish dialogue...don't get me going there.....
    Anyway, the movie can be enjoyed for it's own merits, so for those who like it, go nuts, but I'll never be terribly enthralled with this film. When I first saw it, I walked out of the theatre shaking my head, muttering "what has happened to my Bond?! Help!"
    I almost booked an emergecy session on Dr. Sir James Moloney's couch.
    But Instead, I sucked it up, went back, took my medicine, and saw the film a few more times in theatre.
    As a Bond fan, I digest what is served up, even if some entres do not quite stimulate the palate, as much as I'd like. I also endured Deaver's book, Boyd's book too. So be it. We roll.Long live Bond. ~O)

    Thank you Timmer, this is a view I recognise being close to my own.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,355
    FRWL: 25
    OHMSS: 19 (+1)
    CR: 26 (-1)
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,473
    FRWL: 24 (-1)
    OHMSS: 19
    CR: 27 (+1)
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,847
    FRWL: 23 (-1)
    OHMSS: 19
    CR: 28 (+1)

    Maybe it's just me but I felt Royale was EXTREMLY close to Fleming's novel.
  • Dravenslade1Dravenslade1
    Posts: 73
    FRWL: 22 (-1)
    OHMSS: 19
    CR: 29 (+1)
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    Posts: 6,396
    FRWL: 22
    OHMSS: 20 (+1)
    CR: 28 (-1)
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    edited April 2014 Posts: 6,396
    sirseanisbond wrote:

    This fight over OHMSS is IDOTIC! It's a waste of time people. This number count is exactly where we were a week ago! It's obvious that OHMSS will be third and the real fight will be between FRWL and CR. Can we just move on and get it over with? There are other elimination games waiting in the wings that will be just as much fun...

    Still a waste of time is it.....?
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    I think we can safely say that OHMSS is back in the running.
  • Perilagu_KhanPerilagu_Khan
    Posts: 2,483
    FRWL: 21-
    OHMSS: 21 (+1)
    CR: 28

    And then some.
  • timmertimmer
    Posts: 4,622
    wednesday
    FRWL: 22 +1
    OHMSS: 22
    CR: 26 -1
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    Posts: 6,396
    This game has now become so very interesting. I've no idea who will win.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,473
    CR and OHMSS all the way
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    FRWL: 21 -1
    OHMSS: 22
    CR: 27 +1
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,423
    FRWL: 22 +
    OHMSS: 22
    CR: 26 -

    Bloody hell, where did OHMSS get all those votes from. Bravo!
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    Posts: 6,396
    royale65 wrote:
    FRWL: 22 +
    OHMSS: 22
    CR: 26 -

    Bloody hell, where did OHMSS get all those votes from. Bravo!

    I have friends in low places. ;-)
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,423
    Well, thank them from me ;-)
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