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Well said !!
Well said as well !!
A few years later surely?
EDIT: Of course. Confusing SP with SF. Good catch.
I think second most successful ever is good enough.
I see. I was just assuming. Don't even know who One Direction is...
So has there been any film at all that had another similar impact as Goldfinger. I read somewhere on this forum, that GoldenEye influenced pop culture or something like that.
TSWLM maybe?
@bondsum has accurately summated why GF stands head and shoulders above other bond films in terms of cultural impact.
GE because of the video game, the title song, Brosnan being an established figure for Americans in particular, the idea of new bond for a new era and Tina turner song got significant AirPlay.
TSWLM - title song, jaws, lotus and ski jump. It was touted as 'Bond and Beyond' and 007 hadn't really gone 'big' since YOLT a decade earlier.
SF definitely had the song and the famous olympics scene with the queen. It also had a striking villain, an Oscar winning director and the 50 years angle. But all of them cemented their stars - interestingly three of them were the third film of the actor's era.
Yes, I would say the closest comparison would be TSWLM's popularity from memory. But LALD was also a huge deal before it, especially as it had the Paul McCartney and Wings title song that elevated its popularity with audiences.
If you don't - then put on a pair of earmuffs and have a listen.
You raise a good point about GE. Tina Turner's song was an international hit, the movie was a huge BO draw and the video game was also a cultural phenomenon, so it would be unfair not to include GE alongside TSWLM.
Snow White and the Seven Dwarves ? Gone With the Wind?
Sounds like very true and reasonable words to me.
As the eternal success of General Hospital proves it's all about the melodrama. After all, it's so much fun - black and white for everyone to see.
And its a pure piece of Anglo heroism and patriotism .
That s what he said.
We can debate it all we like but you'll never convince us who love SF (I hate SP and find a completely different film despite the same director) that it's rubbish.
I can't stand, TND - DAD but there are some here who love them and it is for them to appreciate.
The problem is the DC era has been put on a pedestial that doesn't half wind up those that don't get it, plain and simple.
The same thing with Nolan's Bat Trilogy, those that don't like them can't understand why they get the acclaim and the 2 Burton films get short thrift these days.
To me it's night and day, Nolan's films are far superior but that is my opinion.
I prefer SF to GF and I'm sure that will wind @noSolaceleft up a treat but his constant sniping of the DC era do similar with us DC fans.
It's what makes this forum so interesting, we all love Bond but have wildly different opinions on this character and all that it is involved with it.
I don't particularly like SF, but I recognize it's strengths and credit it as such. It's well directed, if not the best directed; one of the best photographed films of the series if not the best; the sequence with Patrice in the skyscraper is one of the most suspenseful scenes in the series; Silva is the strongest villain in years and I've watched his entrance and following sequence numerous times.
It was a massive success, no question.
But I have never embraced the film the way many have and will make no apologies for my overall feelings. Never having liked the Dench M much, it doesn't help that SF feels like an M film guest starring James Bond. I never missed Q or Moneypenny the previous two films and to bring both back contributed nothing, particularly in making MP a field agent. The music detracts rather than helps. The big reveal with the Aston Martin is vastly overrated as we've seen the car in how many previous films?
Someone earlier referred to the less is more action. SF has no action scenes that really stand out for me. It's a lot like TWINE, my least favorite film to begin with, and follows it in this way. This is a James Bond film, give me something to want to revisit on that scale rather than dark and gloomy scenes that seem to dominate it. It will outrage many, but I get more satisfaction from the SP PTS than the whole of the action in SF.
As far as what attracted people in droves, hard to say. I can give a couple examples of my first viewing that likely weren't due to critical reviews of enjoyment of Bond:
I recall some teen girl who probably never had any clue about Bond kept singing the title song over and over. Not that that's a bad thing, but I doubt she went home and streamed other films. Then there was a group of about 8 teens who spent the entirety of the film on their phones. I had to speak to a couple of them who thought it was cute to change seats with their friends several times. I wouldn't say they were attracted to the film to see James Bond. I suspect a parent dropped the group off in a minivan to give them something to do. Most of the other times I have seen a Bond film the audience has been into the film and not distractive.
Just watched the last segment of Haphazard's analysis of Skyfall.
Excellent stuff. I do think he maybe nitpicks things a tad too much though.
Looking forward to his analysis of SP. He strongly hints he's not a big fan.
I have to admit, I find Haphazard thoroughly entertaining and the majority of his observations mirror my own, so you'll get no complaints from me. For those of you that haven't watched any of Haphazard's previous videos, I suggest you catch up on them all. They're the best out of all the fan-analysis videos available on Youtube.
I agree. Even Quantum of Good.
What's for certain is the financial success. But doesn't that apply to YOLT and DAF as well especially?
I only saw this Queen and Bond clip the first time yesterday and it is awesome.
Had I seen that in 2012 (and had been old enough) I would have gone and watched the film in the cinema.
What is classic, what is iconic. Who am I to judge.
What I can say is what I felt watching the films (in random order).
Skyfall got off on the wrong foot, horrible pts, overloaded titles, song ok.
But it got better and better, from Shanghai it gets very good and by the time Silva enters the screen (sans the bloody rat talk) great things happen. The Skyfall segment which is a big part of the film is the high point and brilliant.
I said this before, what makes SF memorable and great is Judi Dench. Without her part the film would fall apart. But that's not a criticism, it's praise. The writers and EoN have realized what incredible potential there is in Dench, probably through QoS.
Skyfall: The Dench Chronicles as I'm lovingly call the film.
I was only 15 in 2012. I think you, me, and @jamesbondkenya are the youngest members.
Put it this way, did Skyfall have an influence on fashion, music, other movies, cosmetics, kids cartoons, magazines, news, toys, etc? Were American TV networks cancelling their shows so that they could launch a new spy series similar to Skyfall? Were the French, Germans, Japanese and Italians going Bond crazy over Skyfall producing wonderful knock-off movies and merchandise to coincide with Skyfall fan frenzy? Did the most popular adult cartoon of today produce a feature-length movie based on Bond? Well, Goldfinger did all those things and more.
A muslim school or what?