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For me every kind of content, citing arguments of fans who are against SF and who are supportive of SF, are OK. If it's really about the content that is. Then I'm not easily offended. Eventually I would then say "let's agree to disagree". And I think this line should be uttered much more.
Alas, some people are focussing on more superficial things. And try, sometimes unconsciously, to derail that on-topic content with comments that have nothing to do with that content. Comments that are focused on each other's behaviour, irritations and that are highlighting character traits. I think that should stop.
Either discuss fiercely and with passion
For me every kind of content, citing arguments of fans who are against SF and who are supportive of SF, are OK. If it's really about the content that is. Then I'm not easily offended. Eventually I would then say "let's agree to disagree". And I think this line should be uttered much more.
Alas, some people are focussing on more superficial things. And try, sometimes unconsciously, to derail that on-topic content with comments that have nothing to do with that content. Comments that are focused on each other's behaviour, irritations and that are highlighting character traits. I think that should stop.
Either discuss fiercely and with passion about the subject, then in the end always focus on the line "let's agree to disagree". Or don't post at all or create some enlightened topics yourself that are of your own interest.
But one shouldn't always repeatedly splash ones bottom straight in people's faces when the situation doesn't call for it, or in this case, specifically asks for something else. ;)
I find it a bit difficult to understand all the abuse some Bond films get, sure some are weaker than others but I find there's usually enough good stuff in there to make it worth while.
I've watched the you tube videos " Everything wrong with ..... " and found them funny but it hasn't stopped me loving any film. ;) .
Maybe, I'm just lucky. :))
But seriously, enough of this... or I might have to start a 'bum analogy thread' :))
Im sorry for derailing this thread even more :\"> O:-)
CR, SF & QOS. I think some are better than others but I do like
How they introduced a little more humour into SF, Even Daniel
Walked with a swagger and a little smirk now and then. I think
He's got over the pressure and has started to enjoy himself. Bring
On Bond 24. B-)
I agree with @Gustav_graves. Discuss fulsomely and passionately, agree to disagree if necessary, and don't take things too personally.
Most of all, we shouldn't segregate people. Someone noted recently that even as the United States has become more and more tolerant of different races and lifestyles, people there have become less and less inclined to share space and time with those they disagree with.
Disagreeing, discussing and arguing and recognising that not agreeing is not the end of the world, is the bedrock of a healthy society, as much here in the web as 'out there' in the real world. One of the great things about these threads is the mix of people, often disagreeing, and often very different, happily sharing time and space.
Had Dalts been in it, it would have been a classic. Actually, as it's not the central performance I have a problem with, I don't think that would have made all that much difference to my view.
But you would have embraced the positive aspects of the film far more ;)
You deserve this:
;-).
Pay attention to the 3rd movie, and scroll to 3min26sec. You can hear Bond talking in a faster, more Connery-esque fashion. Which for me actually works slightly better ;-). I hope....Bond will talk a bit faster in "SPECTRE". It seems that some of these takes weren't used.
I agree that debate should be allowed. I don't think these should be cheerleading threads. I like SF a whole lot, but it's not perfect.
This is an appreciation thread. And it needs to stay that way. It is not a debate theread. There are other threads to debate Skyfall and also now a "things I can't stand" thread where you can rip it apart there. But debate does not belong here. NOT strong debate, no. Some discussion, but not heated debates, no. Same for any appreciation thread.
You can call it a "cheerleading" thread because it is about appreciation. Nothing wrong with it staying on topic like that.
So, yes, you are correct @doubleoego.
That's your opinion, sir. I think that while very one remains polite, respectful debate is a healthy thing. I think you're trying to re-interpret the term appreciation, but only with regard to those opinions you concur with. Stifling other opinions (if they are presented respectfully) is in my opinion censorship.
I tend to agree with you but you have to be aware that not everyone sees it that way.
An appreciation thread is specifically for appreciation. It is not a generic thread for big debates or counterpoints. Read @doubleoego's post above again. In part he said, This isn't a generic thread, it's specific as indicated by the fact it's an appreciation thread. When common courtesy of following and adhering to basic rules are abandoned things become chaotic, needlessly annoying and not fun at all.
True words. Strong negative debate is not appropriate. End of. Simply do your debating or reasoning of negatives on other threads. They are available.
əpriːʃɪˈeɪʃ(ə)n,-sɪ-/
noun
noun: appreciation; plural noun: appreciations
1.
recognition and enjoyment of the good qualities of someone or something.