Connections between two Bond films

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  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited January 2 Posts: 7,271
    Interesting, a few additions from my part:

    OP and DAD, both feature a contested border, created during the Cold War: West and East Germany's Inner German Border in OP, South and North Korea's DMZ in DAD.

    LTK and NTTD, both feature a Maserati. Sanchez' car in the LTK climax, while in NTTD it's the villain car on the bridge in the pts.

    GE and SP, both are partly set in a European microstate, Monaco in GE and Vatican City very briefly in SP's car chase.

    DAD and NTTD, Delectados cigars.

    TLD and NTTD, Bond's Aston Martin V8 Vantage.

    OHMSS and DAF, Bond's Aston from OHMSS appears in the background in Q's workplace in DAF.
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    A few mentions in the sheet I'm afraid feature more than twice.

    Other than in YOLT and DAF, Charles Gray appears uncredited in TSWLM, he provides the voice-over during the pyramid show.

    Other than in OP and QOS, there's also an Alfa in SP. It's the car Bond drives the roof off during the Rome chase.

    Charles Robinson appears in three films: TND, TWINE and DAD.

    I see Mexico mentioned for GF and SP, I always thought the exact name of the country was never mentioned in GF's pts? I could be wrong though.

    Also, isn't TMWTGG not also a title that references the villain?
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    Love this idea btw, thanks for organising.
  • Tokoloshe2Tokoloshe2 Northern Ireland
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    Thanks @GoldenGun , I've updated the spreadsheet with most of these. Not too fussed about the Alfa Romeo in SP as it's really just the vehicle equivalent of an extra!

    I think GF's Mexico can be considered cannon; the scene comes from Fleming, who names the country as where Bond has just shut down a heroin-smuggling operation.

    I can't believe I didn't realise Charles Gray did the TSWLM pyramids narration!
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Tokoloshe2 wrote: »
    Thanks @GoldenGun , I've updated the spreadsheet with most of these. Not too fussed about the Alfa Romeo in SP as it's really just the vehicle equivalent of an extra!

    I think GF's Mexico can be considered cannon; the scene comes from Fleming, who names the country as where Bond has just shut down a heroin-smuggling operation.

    I can't believe I didn't realise Charles Gray did the TSWLM pyramids narration!

    Okay great!! Reminds me I should reread GF ;) I'll gladly contribute if I am reminded of more of these :)
  • slide_99slide_99 USA
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    MR and TMWTGG: a boat is split in half by another boat
    GF and SF: villain evades capture by dressing in an enemy uniform
    TB and AVTAK: Bond makes an underwater escape and runs into a female enemy agent who he later beds
    OP and GE: Bond kills uniformed soldiers of foreign states
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    I just watched GF and when they arrive at Auric Stud, I wondered if GF and AVTAK are the only two Bond films with the main villain having an interest in horses?
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    That is a good one and strengthens the commonality between the films.

    GF and AVTAK
    • both feature a villain who cheats while playing Bond in a game of skill
    • Bond is knocked out
    • the villains plot involves the denotation of a bomb.
    • both villains want the bomb to explode in the USA
    • both villains have ties or relationships with communist countries
    • Bond wears a white dinner jacket in both
    • Bond attempts to diffuse the bomb in both films
    • the final scenes feature aircraft
    • Bond involves and works with the CIA in both films
    • the villain falls to their death
    • the villain shares his plan with others in a briefing
    • the villain kills the person who isn't interested in participating in the plan
    • both films feature horses
    • the villains stand to profit from their plan being successful
  • Tokoloshe2Tokoloshe2 Northern Ireland
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    Those GF/AVTAK similarities are all true, but many of them apply to other films of course. The point of the spreadsheet...

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tWg9IT2YwZSJdoiLb4jhYsChe1VsGD0DZF8vkRny6BE/edit?gid=0#gid=0

    ... is things which link ONLY two Bond films (and not more than two).
  • Perhaps a bit niche but DAD and FRWL:

    Both involve the Bond girl saying, "My friends call me Jinx/Tania", to which Bond says: "Mine call me James Bond."
  • slide_99slide_99 USA
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    LTK and DAD: Bond and Moneypenny never share a scene (VR doesn't count)
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    SF/TMWTGG - Bond and Silva had a gun duel in an island, both Severine and Andrea are sent by the main villains to warn Bond and ended up helping up him only to kill them (both through a gunshot) by the main villains themselves.

    OHMSS/NTTD; OHMSS/TWINE (Do I need to explain these two?)

    TSWLM/TND - Bond and a rival agent from another country (Anya/Wai Lin), main villain hijacked a ship (Liparus and HMS Devonshire) that could create World Wars, both have important devices to retrieve (Microfilm and GPS Encoder), Bond appeared in Naval Uniforms.

    LTK/LALD - Both involving main villains who ran drug cartels in fictional islands (San Monique and Isthmus), both are Governments of their own islands, both owned Cults (Baron Samedi and Professor Joe), both involving a main confrontation where the villain has blade weapon (Baron Samedi had knife, Sanchez had Machete), both Mistresses of the villains owed them something to be with them (Kananga raised Solitaire and was under his care; Sanchez bribed Lupe's win in a Beauty Contest), both involved Felix Leiter and CIA, both entirely shot in America.



  • Tokoloshe2Tokoloshe2 Northern Ireland
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    Thanks @SIS_HQ . A lot of your points are already mentioned in the spreadsheet (see my most recent comments for the link). Others I'm wondering how to include succinctly in the space given, but I'll think it over :)
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    TLD and LTK both have an end title song which name starts with the word "If".
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    Not sure if this has been mentioned, but one connection I always noticed is that the one liner ‘and you’re full of it’ was delivered by Bond in both TMWTGG and TLD to the villain (preceded by slightly different set ups - ‘we have a useful four letter word’ and something like ‘we have a phrase too’ respectively).
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    FYEO and AVTAK are the only Bond films in which Bond wears analog Seiko's. Other films which feature Seiko's -TSWLM, MR and OP- only feature digital ones.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    I love this stuff, so I'll just keep on going until someone stops me.

    AVTAK and GE are the only two that have a pts that's set in the Soviet Union. Additionally they're the only two where we see Bond physically in the USSR, before its eventual dissolution that is.

    OP and TLD are the only two where we physically see the Iron Curtain: West German-East German border in OP, Austrian-Czechoslovak border in TLD.
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    My turn :

    CR '67 and TMWTGG : the name James Bond appears in the ending songs.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Good one @Gerard !
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Tokoloshe2 wrote: »
    Those GF/AVTAK similarities are all true, but many of them apply to other films of course. The point of the spreadsheet...

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tWg9IT2YwZSJdoiLb4jhYsChe1VsGD0DZF8vkRny6BE/edit?gid=0#gid=0

    ... is things which link ONLY two Bond films (and not more than two).

    Oh dear it appears I misunderstood the assignment. Thanks for the clarification.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Skyfall
    Spectre

    7-letter S-word titles.

  • Tokoloshe2Tokoloshe2 Northern Ireland
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    007HallY wrote: »
    Not sure if this has been mentioned, but one connection I always noticed is that the one liner ‘and you’re full of it’ was delivered by Bond in both TMWTGG and TLD to the villain (preceded by slightly different set ups - ‘we have a useful four letter word’ and something like ‘we have a phrase too’ respectively).


    This is already in the spreadsheet (see link above)
  • Tokoloshe2Tokoloshe2 Northern Ireland
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    I love this stuff, so I'll just keep on going until someone stops me.

    AVTAK and GE are the only two that have a pts that's set in the Soviet Union. Additionally they're the only two where we see Bond physically in the USSR, before its eventual dissolution that is.

    OP and TLD are the only two where we physically see the Iron Curtain: West German-East German border in OP, Austrian-Czechoslovak border in TLD.

    Good points both, I've added them now.
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