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Next unofficial Bond movie

dragonskydragonsky
edited June 2011 in Bond Movies Posts: 2,491
What do you think is there chance we can see another unofficial movie like NSNA or CR? I can't see it happening now but maybe when Craig will step up from the roll as Bond someone will get this idea and will make "unofficial" Bond movie.
What do you think can this happen?

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  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 7,582
    Not for the forseeable future. I'm sure Eon have everything tied up
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited June 2011 Posts: 15,718
    Technicly, the rights for the Fleming novels will end up in public domain in 2039, 75 years after Fleming's death... Unless EON has some sort of agreement past that date, anyone could make a Bond film.
  • thelordflasheartthelordflasheart
    Posts: 1,370
    A while back someone on alt.fan.james-bond had thought that the rights to Bond would be in the public domain soon (I'm assuming they thought it would be 50 years after Fleming's death, around 2014, or perhaps they were counting from the publication dates of each book) and proposed a cable TV series set in the 50's. Given what we've seen of Mad Men and other cable shows I'm sure a lot of fans would be interested in faithful, period recreations of the books.

    But I doubt that would happen even if it could. As much as I love Fleming, the EON films have been so successful at marketing "James Bond" to the public that a lot of the mainstream audience would not enjoy faithful adaptations of the books as they wouldn't seem "Bond-y" to them. Also, look at Mad Men - tremendously well done show, great acting and stories, incredible period detail, and very entertaining - both drama and comedy - and it has a tiny amount of viewers compared to a network show. I fear that the expenses needed to properly film the Fleming books - location shooting (or recreating locations) and period detail alone - means it wouldn't happen (if it could).

    As for 2039, who knows? Maybe the Western powers will be diminished and China will be the biggest superpower, leading a lot of people to take comfort in a period piece where "their" hero fights and outsmarts commies...who can tell?
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,718
    @thelostflasheart It is actually 75 years after the author's death that the rights end up in public domain - in this case, for Bond, it is 2039.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited June 2011 Posts: 13,355
    If Bond is still the force it is now in 2039 I think everything will be OK and some kind of extention will be put into effect. It won't be a Superman situation or something of that sought we'll be facing.

    As for the topic at hand, EON as far as I know now hold all the rights, so they'll be no unofficial films for the foreseeable future.
  • saunderssaunders Living in a world of avarice and deceit
    edited June 2011 Posts: 987
    Isn't there some clause regarding the protection of series that are still publishing new material, as I understood it one of the reasons for the continuation novels is that they safeguard the future copyright of the character and back catalogue of James Bond material.
  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    All I know is, I hope we won't be seeing any unofficial Bond movie along the lines of NSNA. I watched it the other day for the first time, and it was absolutely horrible. I thought maybe it would at least be passable, or just all right, but it was dreadfully awful.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited June 2011 Posts: 15,718
    All I know is, I hope we won't be seeing any unofficial Bond movie along the lines of NSNA. I watched it the other day for the first time, and it was absolutely horrible. I thought maybe it would at least be passable, or just all right, but it was dreadfully awful.
    Yes. My former boss thought NSNA to be the best Connery flick X_X and 2nd only the "amazing" (his words, not mine) Brosnan movies, which are ranked 1-4 (DAD, GE, TWINE, TND, in this order) and NSNA 5th. :-)) One of the reasons I gave my resignation and went off to work in another movie theater.
  • dragonskydragonsky
    Posts: 2,491
    @DaltonCraig007 yes i agree with you TWINE only no.3? [-(
  • sHell_Is_HeresHell_Is_Here
    edited June 2011 Posts: 30
    I don't think we'll see Craig as James Bond outside of EON Productions, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him take up another role as an intelligence agent/spy.

    For example, after they had worked together for two movies in the Bourne franchise, Paul Greengrass (the director of Supremacy and Ultimatum) had Matt Damon cast in The Green Zone, which had a lot of similarities to the Bourne series. Damon's character, of course, wasn't supposed to be 100% a stand-in for Jason Bourne, but The Green Zone shared much of the paranoid, "the government is lying to us" theme.

    The only other official Bond actor who might be able to to still pull off being James Bond (albeit an aged one) is Pierce Brosnan, who has stated since DAD that he is no longer interested in the role.




  • VirageVirage
    Posts: 1,856
    No way EON now have the rights to all bond books and the right to make there own stories

    the (possible) exception which is Young Bond but........ not even higson knows who owns the film rights
  • JamesBondJamesBond
    Posts: 669
    I think it would be good if they give me the permission to make an unofficial Bond film, returning the classic Bond to the field. I promise you guys, all of you, 007-fans, I will make it the proper Bond we know. There are lots of screenplays dropped in my wardrobe, written by me myself and all of them are based on the classic Bond arriving in the 21st century.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited June 2011 Posts: 24,184
    What we need, as soon as those rights enter public domain, is a faithful adaptation of Fleming's novels. I want my real MR, YOLT, TMWTGG...

    @DC, have you by any chance any idea concerning the rights to TB and TSWLM, friend? TB's a bit iffy considering the whole McClory situation and TSWLM was removed from the equation by Fleming himself. Will they be able to film that novel's story, featuring its characters, settings and plot elements?
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited June 2011 Posts: 15,718
    @Dimi It seems McClory lost his rights in 2001, after "waiting too long to bring his cliaims". So now that he has passed away, and can no longer be a nuisance, maybe the TSWLM novel can be filmed now.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    The case is still the same with The Spy Who Loved Me as I far as I know as well and yes EON own all rights to Thunderball and Casino Royale.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,184
    Would it be interesting for EON to re-buy the rights? I mean, they made the films and it doesn't look like they will ever remake them. Also, they still have many more years to suck the novels dry for unused elements. The only reason, I think, why they might consider obtaining the rights again, is to prevent others from making (better?) Bond films.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited June 2011 Posts: 13,355
    why they might consider obtaining the rights again, is to prevent others from making (better?) Bond films.
    Well, yes, that's of course the reason. If EON make the films, why would they (or you) want to risk someone else getting hold of them?

    EON wanted the Casino Royale rights to make the film, which they got and did and as for Thunderball that was also given to them as part of McClory losing his court case in 2001. This makes Never Say Never Again somewhat official is some people's eyes as it's now an MGM release.

    With The Spy Who Loved Me, Fleming put a clause on the novel that none of it's elements may be adapted for screen and that still stands, even today.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,718
    I believe that the Fleming estate / Fleming's heirs still have some kind of power over Bond. If EON were to turn Bond into something unrecognizable from Fleming's original character (hypothetical, I know), I am sure the rights would be removed from EON, and the Fleming estate would find someone else to make more proper Bond films. I want to believe that EON cannot do whatever they want with the Bond character. I'd prefer a 10 years hiatus, and the rights going to another company, than seeing EON turn Bond into an asian woman that cusses every 30 seconds.

    I want to believe there is some 'higher guardian' over Bond that will guarantee him staying close to the Fleming material.
  • thelordflasheartthelordflasheart
    Posts: 1,370
    The only reason, I think, why they might consider obtaining the rights again, is to prevent others from making (better?) Bond films.
    I believe that that is called "dilution of brand". Allowing anyone else to make a Bond film, whether it's better (which is completely subjective) or worse than the EON films, nevertheless makes the EON films less special. A good example of a copyright holder themselves diluting the brand too much would be Star Trek. Too many TV shows (some running concurrently) and films, many of which seemed like they were just rushed out the door to capitalize on the franchise's success with The Next Generation.
  • ChevronChevron Northern Ireland
    Posts: 370

    Yes. My former boss thought NSNA to be the best Connery flick X_X and 2nd only the "amazing" (his words, not mine) Brosnan movies, which are ranked 1-4 (DAD, GE, TWINE, TND, in this order) and NSNA 5th. :-)) One of the reasons I gave my resignation and went off to work in another movie theater.
    I hope when you resigned you either kicked someone in the chest and lept over a balcony or composed an email while sitting on a boat in Venice.
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