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Worst superhero moments of all time.

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  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited June 2020 Posts: 4,629
    Murdock wrote: »
    Guardians was nice to look at but as others mentioned it is rather forgettable.
    The dance off at the end. Really? Also, while I like most of the MCU movies, they aim as low as possible in the humor department too much. Iron Man 3’s big reveal anyone? Also, any of Darcy’s moments in the Thor movies. The Jar Jar Binks of the MCU, everyone.
  • BeatlesSansEarmuffsBeatlesSansEarmuffs
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    BeatlesSansEarmuffs wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Just about every scene in Captain Marvel.

    We shall agree to disagree. And how did you feel about Black Panther?

    One of the weaker Marvel movies, but far better than Captain Marvel and a few others.

    You shall have to disagree with the folks behind the Academy Awards, then. They quite enjoyed it.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    BeatlesSansEarmuffs wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    BeatlesSansEarmuffs wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Just about every scene in Captain Marvel.

    We shall agree to disagree. And how did you feel about Black Panther?

    One of the weaker Marvel movies, but far better than Captain Marvel and a few others.

    You shall have to disagree with the folks behind the Academy Awards, then. They quite enjoyed it.

    I know. Doesn t bother me.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Gustav Graves in that ‘Iron Man/ Robocop’ suit!
  • jobojobo
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    One question from someone completely ignorant when it comes to the superhero genre:

    Is Batman technically a superhero? What's his superpower exactly?
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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  • BeatlesSansEarmuffsBeatlesSansEarmuffs
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    Batman became a superhero back when the bar was set really, really low. All you needed was a colorful costume and to be published regularly in a comic book. (Superman was technically the 1st superhero & he debuted in 1938. Batman's first appearance was in 1939.) He was kind of grandfathered-in. I've heard some people argue that James Bond is something of a superhero. Don't ask me, I might be inclined to agree that his ability to cloud the minds of women qualifies as a superpower...
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    I suppose I'd consider Batman a superhero in the sense that not only is he rich, but he's also pretty much perfection in terms of human physique - managing to be both as skillful and flexible as his ninja training affords and also have the muscle to produce stopping power of the world's greatest boxer.
  • BeatlesSansEarmuffsBeatlesSansEarmuffs
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    Okay, trying to actually answer the question seriously: Batman is super-prepared. For ANYthing. Whatever might possibly happen, Batman has already considered it and prepared a response. Superman might turn bad? Batman has a stash of kryptonite. The whole darned Justice League might turn bad? Batman has a plan to overcome each one of them. Somebody might pilfer Batman's plans to take down the Justice League? Now THAT he hadn't thought of. But Mark Waid did...
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    That's true. He's also got a brilliant mind to go along with that physical perfection.
  • jobojobo
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    Thanks for replying. But in truth there is nothing supernatural about any of this.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Batman's IQ is 192
  • jobojobo
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    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    Batman's IQ is 192

    I have also heard his balls are made of bronze.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    jobo wrote: »
    Thanks for replying. But in truth there is nothing supernatural about any of this.

    Should there be, though? I don't think I agree that power has to be otherworldly in other to qualify as being a superhero. They just need to be someone who has abilities and strengths most don't have and use those to fight crime.
  • jobojobo
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    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    Thanks for replying. But in truth there is nothing supernatural about any of this.

    Should there be, though? I don't think I agree that power has to be otherworldly in other to qualify as being a superhero. They just need to be someone who has abilities and strengths most don't have and use those to fight crime.

    Perhaps. As I said I am a novice on the topic of superheroes. I only saw The Dark Knight for the first time this weekend... 8-} ;))
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    jobo wrote: »
    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    Batman's IQ is 192

    I have also heard his balls are made of bronze.

    No that's Doc Savage
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    jobo wrote: »
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    Thanks for replying. But in truth there is nothing supernatural about any of this.

    Should there be, though? I don't think I agree that power has to be otherworldly in other to qualify as being a superhero. They just need to be someone who has abilities and strengths most don't have and use those to fight crime.

    Perhaps. As I said I am a novice on the topic of superheroes. I only saw The Dark Knight for the first time this weekend... 8-} ;))

    Wow - how did you find it? I still enjoy it as much as I did the first time. :)
  • jobojobo
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    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    Thanks for replying. But in truth there is nothing supernatural about any of this.

    Should there be, though? I don't think I agree that power has to be otherworldly in other to qualify as being a superhero. They just need to be someone who has abilities and strengths most don't have and use those to fight crime.

    Perhaps. As I said I am a novice on the topic of superheroes. I only saw The Dark Knight for the first time this weekend... 8-} ;))

    Wow - how did you find it? I still enjoy it as much as I did the first time. :)

    I am not sure. It is undoubtedly well made with some great scenes and acting performances. I can understand why people hype it so much, although personally I was not exactly blown out of the water. I guess it is simply not the genre for me. That is not to say I didn't enjoy it, and I am on board with those who are interested to see what Nolan could do with Bond.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    jobo wrote: »
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    Thanks for replying. But in truth there is nothing supernatural about any of this.

    Should there be, though? I don't think I agree that power has to be otherworldly in other to qualify as being a superhero. They just need to be someone who has abilities and strengths most don't have and use those to fight crime.

    Perhaps. As I said I am a novice on the topic of superheroes. I only saw The Dark Knight for the first time this weekend... 8-} ;))

    Wow - how did you find it? I still enjoy it as much as I did the first time. :)

    I am not sure. It is undoubtedly well made with some great scenes and acting performances. I can understand why people hype it so much, although personally I was not exactly blown out of the water. I guess it is simply not the genre for me. That is not to say I didn't enjoy it, and I am on board with those who are interested to see what Nolan could do with Bond.

    I still very much love The Dark Knight, but I think I prefer Batman Begins on the whole. Begins has a wonderful flow and energy to it, whereas The Dark Knight has aspirations of grandeur that it mostly hits but the pacing takes a hit as a result.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited June 2020 Posts: 24,179
    Worst superhero moments? I've read some interesting examples. But let's forget about the DCEU and the MCU and the whatever U. Let's watch
    • Reb Brown's Captain America
    • Captain America with JD Sallanger's kid
    • Nick Fury Agent Of SHIELD with the Hoff
    • Pretty much every sequel to Bixby's The Incredible Hulk
    • Legends Of The Superheroes
    • Justice League of America
    • Dr. Strange with Peter Hooten
    • Swamp Thing and Swamp Thing 2
    • Man-Thing
    • ...

    Snyder's films, Dark Phoenix... hell, even Batman & Robin will look so much better suddenly.

    "But D, those aren't legit theatrical movies!", you're saying. Fine, Superman III and Superman IV The Quest For Peace. Compared to those two, Justice League is worth all the Oscars in the world. Compared to "nuclear man", the whole "My mom is named Martha too" plot is exceptional writing. Compared to Hackman in Quest For Peace, Eisenberg is an awesome Luthor. Compared to Luthor's nephew (because it's ALWAYS clever to bring in nephews, isn't it, Purvis and Wade?) who utters the words, "The Dude of Steel! Boy, you gonna GET it!", any line in any DCEU or MCU film feels written by the Bard himself.

    It's okay to dislike a certain film, but folks, for the "worst" superhero moments, you're gonna have to dig a LOT deeper. You don't like Arnold as Freeze? Not even Arnold likes Arnold as Freeze. But nothing he does or says in that movie is as bad as what Shaquille O'Neal does or says in Steel or what Finola Hughes does or says in Generation X.

    I've seen 'em all, and I can promise you that "bad" gets a whole new meaning. ;-)
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    You put yourself through a lot of pain so we don't have to, @DarthDimi ;)
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    You put yourself through a lot of pain so we don't have to, @DarthDimi ;)

    Always ready to take a bullet for the team, @CraigMooreOHMSS. ;-)
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    BeatlesSansEarmuffs wrote: »
    Batman became a superhero back when the bar was set really, really low. All you needed was a colorful costume and to be published regularly in a comic book. (Superman was technically the 1st superhero & he debuted in 1938. Batman's first appearance was in 1939.) He was kind of grandfathered-in. I've heard some people argue that James Bond is something of a superhero. Don't ask me, I might be inclined to agree that his ability to cloud the minds of women qualifies as a superpower...

    The first superhero was The Phantom. 1936.
  • BeatlesSansEarmuffsBeatlesSansEarmuffs
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    BeatlesSansEarmuffs wrote: »
    Batman became a superhero back when the bar was set really, really low. All you needed was a colorful costume and to be published regularly in a comic book. (Superman was technically the 1st superhero & he debuted in 1938. Batman's first appearance was in 1939.) He was kind of grandfathered-in. I've heard some people argue that James Bond is something of a superhero. Don't ask me, I might be inclined to agree that his ability to cloud the minds of women qualifies as a superpower...

    The first superhero was The Phantom. 1936.

    No, the Phantom is a costumed hero. So is Zorro. 1919. Also the Scarlet Pimpernel, 1903. And let's remember, the most common generic term for costumed heroes in early comic books was "mystery men." It may be time to bring that term back into use! Finally, to throw a REAL curveball into the works, the actual term "superhero" is JOINTLY TRADEMARKED by Marvel and DC. Has been since the '60s. Therefore, if Dark Horse comics wants to publish the adventures of a costumed, superpowered, heroic character... they can't actually call him a superhero. Not as far as the lawyers at Marvel & DC are concerned. The issue has never been litigated, but the paperwork has been filed....
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    BeatlesSansEarmuffs wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    BeatlesSansEarmuffs wrote: »
    Batman became a superhero back when the bar was set really, really low. All you needed was a colorful costume and to be published regularly in a comic book. (Superman was technically the 1st superhero & he debuted in 1938. Batman's first appearance was in 1939.) He was kind of grandfathered-in. I've heard some people argue that James Bond is something of a superhero. Don't ask me, I might be inclined to agree that his ability to cloud the minds of women qualifies as a superpower...

    The first superhero was The Phantom. 1936.

    No, the Phantom is a costumed hero. So is Zorro. 1919. Also the Scarlet Pimpernel, 1903. And let's remember, the most common generic term for costumed heroes in early comic books was "mystery men." It may be time to bring that term back into use! Finally, to throw a REAL curveball into the works, the actual term "superhero" is JOINTLY TRADEMARKED by Marvel and DC. Has been since the '60s. Therefore, if Dark Horse comics wants to publish the adventures of a costumed, superpowered, heroic character... they can't actually call him a superhero. Not as far as the lawyers at Marvel & DC are concerned. The issue has never been litigated, but the paperwork has been filed....
    Like Batman, then?
  • BeatlesSansEarmuffsBeatlesSansEarmuffs
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    BeatlesSansEarmuffs wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    BeatlesSansEarmuffs wrote: »
    Batman became a superhero back when the bar was set really, really low. All you needed was a colorful costume and to be published regularly in a comic book. (Superman was technically the 1st superhero & he debuted in 1938. Batman's first appearance was in 1939.) He was kind of grandfathered-in. I've heard some people argue that James Bond is something of a superhero. Don't ask me, I might be inclined to agree that his ability to cloud the minds of women qualifies as a superpower...

    The first superhero was The Phantom. 1936.

    No, the Phantom is a costumed hero. So is Zorro. 1919. Also the Scarlet Pimpernel, 1903. And let's remember, the most common generic term for costumed heroes in early comic books was "mystery men." It may be time to bring that term back into use! Finally, to throw a REAL curveball into the works, the actual term "superhero" is JOINTLY TRADEMARKED by Marvel and DC. Has been since the '60s. Therefore, if Dark Horse comics wants to publish the adventures of a costumed, superpowered, heroic character... they can't actually call him a superhero. Not as far as the lawyers at Marvel & DC are concerned. The issue has never been litigated, but the paperwork has been filed....
    Like Batman, then?

    Yes, I like Batman. Do you?
  • GerardGerard
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    From what i gather, the Scarlet Pimpernel wasn't a costumed hero. He just used any disguise that was available and/or necessary. But your point stands.

    As for the worst moment in Super-hero history (on the screen) : The Bat-credit card from Batman and Robin. So bad it was it made Denny O'Neill scream :

    https://www.peterdavid.net/2015/01/30/the-strange-case-of-akiva-goldsman/
    I shall never forget attending the special sneak preview for Batman and Robin, arranged for DC Comics personnel. The cringing, the gasps, the moans, the guys calling out “Feed me, Seymour” when Poison Ivy’s plant showed up. But the single moment that made the biggest impression upon me was when Batman whipped out his personalized charge card, and Denny O’Neil (sitting two rows back) let out a howl of agony that would have rivaled anything one might have heard while cruising any of the circles of Hell.
  • BeatlesSansEarmuffsBeatlesSansEarmuffs
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    Yeah, the Bat-credit card is especially bad.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    We can add just about every scene in WW84 now.
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