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DAD is Brosnan's MR (EDIT : Now including TB,SP) all the 4th film for each actor.
Watching DAD tonight i feel that this,also being his 4th film,is the fantastical film of his tenure,but is it any worse than Moore's Moonraker ?
Both were their 4th films but it looks like Brosnan got the shit end of the stick in a much less fantastical film.
comments ?
Both were their 4th films but it looks like Brosnan got the shit end of the stick in a much less fantastical film.
comments ?
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Lemme do the math:
DAF X MR - 1/2 the silly = DAD
I absolutely hate both films. MR came in dead last in the Mi6 survey that ranked the 22 films in 2012. DAD finished at 20...only AVTAK and MR came in behind it.
Nuff said.
It sounds ironic given the boat loads of money they made but the dissatisfaction they provided for moviegoers and the reputational risk that each of this filthy films brought the series caused major damage.
MR is the reason subsequent Bond movies had less budgets. DAD was a fake and predictable noisefest. Robert Wade apologized to me (sorry I keep mentioning this) for DAD. Even though the director is the main blame, the writers played part too. The producers had to reboot the series because of it.
Not a bit of it; both films made tons of cash!!!
Connery's was YOLT/DAF. Both had very unrealistic plots.
OHMSS is Over the top in all the right places. Great locations, unique plot and fun all around.
Moore's was Moonraker. Crazy plot and space. Nuff said. still enjoyable flick though.
Dalton's was Licence to Kill. It's very over the top but in good ways. It upped the violence and the villains are fun and sinister.
Craigs is Skyfall. Silva, crazy plot. nuff said.
At least Moonraker is well made.
For me I can't decide whether to put DAF or DAD at the very bottom. Both have pretty laughable special effects.
Does MR have great cinematography? Yes
Does MR have the most amazing sets by Ken Adam? Yes
Does MR have a simply gorgeous John Barry soundtrack? Yes
Does MR have brilliant special effects, which earned Derek Meddings a well deserved Oscar nom? Yes
Does DAD have any of the above? NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
Looks like someone needs to go back to math class! ;) :P
I cannot do but agree with you Willy, well formulated.
This.
Both come in at the bottom of my ranking, but DAD is miles away from Moonraker.
MR: great score - DAD: noise, chaos, backwards recording, ... in a word: rubbish
MR: great Shirley Bassey song - DAD: something squeezed out of a computer and voiced by an over-arrogant Madonna
MR: Roger Moore in one of his best performances - DAD: a tired Brosnan
MR: practical effects, worthy of Academy Awards - DAD: CGI crap
MR: lovely Lois Chiles - DAD: Halle "yo momma" Berry
MR: charismatic Michael Lonsdale - DAD: RoboToby
Worst joke in MR: double pigeon take - Worst joke in DAD: Madonna's "cameo"
IMO, MR holds up pretty well. Even Jaws is vastly more enjoyable than Mr. Kil ("Now there's a name to die for.") People may take a dump on MR all they want, I can still enjoy the power of Ken Adam and John Barry, the magnificent contributions of Derek Meddings, John Richardson and many more, the breathtaking stunt work, ... What does DAD offer? Rosamund Pike. I suppose that counts for something.
Also I think MR is one of Moore's weakest performances (I wish someone would wipe that bloody smirk off his face sometimes - annoying, ageing poser).
* she's like a yummy mummy trying to impress the kids by acting tough.
Oh dear god. I have heard it all now.
Dalton, Laz and Craig did not have OTT plots.
With DAD it went stratospheric and the franchise had to be rebooted. Even MR didn't quite trip it up after every scene like DAD did
MR had a superb soundtrack (one of Barry's best), well shot locations and stunts and only let's itself down in the final third.
DAD, on the other hand, let's itself down from the moment Madonna starts violating my eardrums.
Die Another Day started off fine, but when down the toilet when Madonna started singing.
Other than that, MR beats it in pretty much every department. I do think it's a fair comparison though, both are the actors fourth films, both start well but really fall apart towards the end, both are very OTT with some real cringe worthy moments and both were followed by grittier, more down to earth films.
I also think they're similar because in both films, there's a really good Bond movie buried underneath all the shit. DAD has some great action scenes, a really good premise (Bond getting captured), some great lines and it's really well paced. MR has some fantastic scenes, great cinematography, great set design and one of the best scores of the series.
I think in both cases, it's not really that the bad outweighs the good, it's just that the bad stuff is so bad that the rest of the film really suffers for it.
I'd argue it'd still be pretty bad. A lot of the cringe worthy stuff in the film takes place on earth. Bondola (with double taking pigeon), most of the stuff with Jaws, Dolly turning up, etc. There's a lot that needs fixing with MR.
But no,007 should not be in space....
DAD may be really over the top in way too many aspects, but I'm always gonna like a movie that makes me wince here & there better than one that makes me shut it off.
:))
Well it WAS 1979 dont forget...we found that trendy in those days ;)
In the 70s you also found Britt Eckland hilarious comic relief and Jimmy Savile a top entertainer for all the family. All I can say is thank bloody god I wasn't around then ;)
My sister and I even applied to go on Saville's 'Jim'll fix it' show.....frick me talk about dodging a bullet...
DAD has those horrible looking scenes with that damned Madonna song launching a frontal assault on our auditory sensors.
Despite these few highs, I still find MR the most detestible film in the series. DAD is so bad that I find it hard to choose it over MR and vice versa. I also hate DAF.
I just cannot think of enough bad things to say about MR, a particular foul entry in the Bond canon. DAD is just offensive and it is the type of movie nobody wanted.
I might watch the first act of DAD but seeing Pierce Brosnans puss all over it ruins it for me.
Lois Chiles
Slapstick
Drax is so boring
Jaws ' Herman Munster imitation
Dolly
Stupid Gadgets
Maybe MR does not try to take itself too seriously and that should raise it in my opinion. DAD is so stupid, silly, ridiculous and the kicker : Everyone is taking this horseshit serious!
MR knows it's a crock and does not try to be anything else.
Aside from the great PTS that I enjoy watching and Moore in the Centerfridge(sp) and the good locations, the silliness of the above just really turns me off. Just when the film starts to show promise (The action of the PTS, Chang, the centerfrudge scene), the film manages to step on it's own dick with some OTT comedy.