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That's an oxymoron. :P
On the other end of the special effects scale we have:
As MR was my first 007 movie it will always be special to me.
Whenever I hear complains about the improbabilities I always think of how many movies of the 007 franchise are any good then. Even SF has its large share of bullshit and still it gets higher rated than many a movie in the franchise.
For me Roger Moore is one of the most influential persons for the franchise and his value is proven, MR is part of that legacy.
It was an interesting thought and the coincidence of both of these films being the actors 4th films.
I do not accuse you of anything but MR & DAD are highly controversial and due to a majority stance it seems to be allright to be extremely rude about the movies and performers.
And if you are in any way negative about SF you are just not intelligent to comprehend art or whatever. Visually MR is easily superiour to both movies and when it comes to the music MR plays in the top league. And as for Roger Moore he is a God among men. ;)
What has Jimmy Savile got to do with MR? Was there a special scene where he was meant to star in? Did James do it all with Jimmy?
MR the rock hard competency of Ken Adam
DAD the madness of one of Tamahoris friends on a keyboard
Sir Rog certainly is @SaintMark....totally ..
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I actually said higher up in thread that MR was competently done unlike DAD. But the questionable "humour" (ie the sightgags and jaws falling in love) drags the film down.
Other movies like Honey We Shrunk Ourselves and the Nutty Professor 2 caused many fans of their predecessor films to never want to watch another sequel again. Neither film continued with any additional sequels. Common examples of screw ups which were noticeable include the lack of returning original characters with little to no explanation, a different style of directing which was often the result of less attention to quality accompanied by a score that featured a silly lighthearted tone. This combination doesn't blend well with some audiences. Some directors were very proud of their campy light-toned work with the blessing of their studios i.e. Joel Schumacher in his take on Batman, John Singleton relying on improvisation from less-experienced actors at the time he made 2 Fast 2 Furious.
I agree re Dad and MR. MR has plenty of good bits, great sets, decent villain, music. DAD is almost unremitting awfulness. i actually thought the MR special effects were almost okay - much better space stuff than YOLT, that's for sure.
Too bad YOLT didn't have the wonderful Derek Meddings for miniature work.
In 1979 it looked spectacular and it still does compared to the dodgy CGI in QoS, They did one hell of a job all that time ago.
It is difficult being young and looking at the movies of a certain age when you have been "blessed" with all that modern stuff to make movies look good.
That said I prefer the original SW trilogy easily to the OTT CGI fest that is called the prequel trilogy, the main difference being that the originals have a heart and characters everybody cared about.
DAD was indeed an excess in some parts but is no less unbelievable moments than CR, QoB or SF. They are all Bond movies.
MR was a response to the success of Scifi with Blade Runner, Star Wars, Alien & Star Trek, and they rightfully decided that it would be economically stupid not to grab some of that dosh. And they came up with a beautifully filmed movie that went OTT but still made it look good. And then Roger came back with the brilliant FYEO. Too bad Brosnan was not allowed to do that as well as he has shown so often by now that he can play a darker person. And seeing all the positives about November man I know a lot of people do know that Brosnan was capable of a lot more than EON allowed him.
MR is a brilliant document of the greatness and major blockbuster abilty that the 007 movies had in the '70-'80-s and DAD is sadly the epitaph of an actor that did great things for the franchise and deserved a decent send-off.
Great post. Just made a couple of amendments.
*takes pendant hat off again* ;-)
I just don't know what the producers were aiming for with DAD. MR is basically the same film as TSWLM and with tighter editing it could have been a good entry. DAD comes off as a bad imitation, a mockery of the former greatness of the Bond franchise.
Halle Berry an Oscar winning actress is so bad, she makes Denise Richards look like Meryl Streep. The invidisible car makes that gondola in MR look smart and ground breaking.
The double take pidgeon shows how little they were taking this fluff serious, but DAD...they actually tried to sell us on the indivisible car and Halle Berry as an NSA agent.
Tamahori should be bitch slapped with the celluloid.
"Tamahori should be bitch slapped with the celluloid."
I'm not sure that's a punishment. ;-)
DAD's last half is pretty bad. When Bond goes to space that COULD have been bad had it not been for Barry's Flight into Space. That track alone justifies the trek.
With it being Ken Adams' last film as well as Bernard Lee it feels like the end of an era. OTT fantastical, beautiful adventure. Some of the sexiest women in the entire series. Moonraker is sublime.
The first hour of DAD is really quite good as well, but the silliness in DAD doesn't work HALF as well as it does in MR - probably the tonal shift whereas MR has no misconceptions about what it is from the get-go.
If I had been 10 or 12 the first time I saw MR (instead of 19) I might be able to cut it a certain amount of slack due to fond boyhood memories, alas this is not the case.
You must despise Star Wars then. ;-)
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The Force is weak with this one... :P
Stop it. You're killing me. :-)
Inadvertent Force-choke, sorry Willy. I sometimes stray to the Dark Side... :-??