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  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    Monday

    Honey Ryder: 17
    Tatiana Romanova: 21
    Pussy Galore: 15
    Domino Derval: 13
    Tracy Bond: 26 (+1)
    Solitaire: 18
    Melina Havelock: 17
    Octopussy: 9
    Kara Milovy: 17
    Pam Bouvier: 10
    Natalya Simonova: 15
    Wai Lin: 10
    Vesper Lynd: 23 (-1)
    Camille Montes: 7
    Severine: 11

    Eliminated:
    16. Anya Amasova
    17. Holly Goodhead
    18. Tiffany Case
    19. Kissy Suzuki
    20. Stacey Sutton
    21. Christmas Jones
    22. Mary Goodnight
    23. Jinx
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
    Posts: 7,854
    Honey Ryder: 17
    Tatiana Romanova: 21
    Pussy Galore: 15
    Domino Derval: 13
    Tracy Bond: 26
    Solitaire: 18
    Melina Havelock: 17
    Octopussy: 8 (-1)
    Kara Milovy: 17
    Pam Bouvier: 10
    Natalya Simonova: 15
    Wai Lin: 11 (+1)
    Vesper Lynd: 23
    Camille Montes: 7
    Severine: 11

    Eliminated:
    16. Anya Amasova
    17. Holly Goodhead
    18. Tiffany Case
    19. Kissy Suzuki
    20. Stacey Sutton
    21. Christmas Jones
    22. Mary Goodnight
    23. Jinx
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,860
    Honey Ryder: 17
    Tatiana Romanova: 21
    Pussy Galore: 15
    Domino Derval: 13
    Tracy Bond: 26
    Solitaire: 18
    Melina Havelock: 17
    Octopussy: 8
    Kara Milovy: 17
    Pam Bouvier: 10
    Natalya Simonova: 15
    Wai Lin: 10 -1
    Vesper Lynd: 24 +1
    Camille Montes: 7
    Severine: 11

    Eliminated:
    16. Anya Amasova
    17. Holly Goodhead
    18. Tiffany Case
    19. Kissy Suzuki
    20. Stacey Sutton
    21. Christmas Jones
    22. Mary Goodnight
    23. Jinx

  • SlyFox007SlyFox007
    Posts: 414
    Monday

    Honey Ryder: 17
    Tatiana Romanova: 21
    Pussy Galore: 15
    Domino Derval: 14 (+1)
    Tracy Bond: 26
    Solitaire: 18
    Melina Havelock: 17
    Octopussy: 8
    Kara Milovy: 17
    Pam Bouvier: 10
    Natalya Simonova: 14 (-1)
    Wai Lin: 10
    Vesper Lynd: 24
    Camille Montes: 8
    Severine: 11

    Eliminated:
    16. Anya Amasova
    17. Holly Goodhead
    18. Tiffany Case
    19. Kissy Suzuki
    20. Stacey Sutton
    21. Christmas Jones
    22. Mary Goodnight
    23. Jinx
  • petergreenhill5petergreenhill5
    Posts: 824
    Monday

    Honey Ryder: 17
    Tatiana Romanova: 22+
    Pussy Galore: 15
    Domino Derval: 14
    Tracy Bond: 25-
    Solitaire: 18
    Melina Havelock: 17
    Octopussy: 8
    Kara Milovy: 17
    Pam Bouvier: 10
    Natalya Simonova: 14
    Wai Lin: 10
    Vesper Lynd: 24
    Camille Montes: 8
    Severine: 11

    Eliminated:
    16. Anya Amasova
    17. Holly Goodhead
    18. Tiffany Case
    19. Kissy Suzuki
    20. Stacey Sutton
    21. Christmas Jones
    22. Mary Goodnight
    23. Jinx

  • Perilagu_KhanPerilagu_Khan
    Posts: 2,483
    Monday

    Honey Ryder: 17
    Tatiana Romanova: 22
    Pussy Galore: 15
    Domino Derval: 13-
    Tracy Bond: 25
    Solitaire: 18
    Melina Havelock: 17
    Octopussy: 8
    Kara Milovy: 17
    Pam Bouvier: 11+
    Natalya Simonova: 14
    Wai Lin: 10
    Vesper Lynd: 24
    Camille Montes: 8
    Severine: 11

    Eliminated:
    16. Anya Amasova
    17. Holly Goodhead
    18. Tiffany Case
    19. Kissy Suzuki
    20. Stacey Sutton
    21. Christmas Jones
    22. Mary Goodnight
    23. Jinx
  • sirseanisbondsirseanisbond
    Posts: 2,189
    Honey Ryder: 17
    Tatiana Romanova: 22
    Pussy Galore: 15
    Domino Derval: 14 (+1)
    Tracy Bond: 25
    Solitaire: 18
    Melina Havelock: 17
    Octopussy: 8
    Kara Milovy: 17
    Pam Bouvier: 10 (-1)
    Natalya Simonova: 14
    Wai Lin: 10
    Vesper Lynd: 24
    Camille Montes: 8
    Severine: 11

    Eliminated:
    16. Anya Amasova
    17. Holly Goodhead
    18. Tiffany Case
    19. Kissy Suzuki
    20. Stacey Sutton
    21. Christmas Jones
    22. Mary Goodnight
    23. Jinx
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    This game took a knock to its credibility with the elimination of Anya Amasova before Camille, Pam, Wai Lin etc.
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    I agree with you re Wai Lin, but not Camille or Pam imo..
  • GetafixGetafix
    edited June 2014 Posts: 11,425
    barryt007 wrote:
    I agree with you re Wai Lin, but not Camille or Pam imo..

    Not Camille? I thought she was pretty weak. Anya had so many more memorable wardrobe changes.
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    Getafix wrote:
    barryt007 wrote:
    I agree with you re Wai Lin, but not Camille or Pam imo..

    Not Camille? I thought she was pretty weak. Anya had so many more memorable wardrobe changes.

    Well i think Camille had a good story-link to the film and made a good pairing with Bond.I have always had a soft gooey-eyed spot for Pam so i am bias there.

  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    barryt007 wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    barryt007 wrote:
    I agree with you re Wai Lin, but not Camille or Pam imo..

    Not Camille? I thought she was pretty weak. Anya had so many more memorable wardrobe changes.

    Well i think Camille had a good story-link to the film and made a good pairing with Bond.I have always had a soft gooey-eyed spot for Pam so i am bias there.

    She was so miserable though in QoS (like Bond). There's absolutely no sense of fun there. Not necessarily the actors faults, but still, c'mon, it is supposed to be a Bond movie.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
    Posts: 4,348
    Honey Ryder: 18 (+1)
    Tatiana Romanova: 22
    Pussy Galore: 15
    Domino Derval: 14
    Tracy Bond: 25
    Solitaire: 18
    Melina Havelock: 17
    Octopussy: 8
    Kara Milovy: 17
    Pam Bouvier: 10
    Natalya Simonova: 14
    Wai Lin: 10
    Vesper Lynd: 24
    Camille Montes: 7 (-1)
    Severine: 11

    Eliminated:
    16. Anya Amasova
    17. Holly Goodhead
    18. Tiffany Case
    19. Kissy Suzuki
    20. Stacey Sutton
    21. Christmas Jones
    22. Mary Goodnight
    23. Jinx
  • Perilagu_KhanPerilagu_Khan
    Posts: 2,483
    Getafix wrote:
    This game took a knock to its credibility with the elimination of Anya Amasova before Camille, Pam, Wai Lin etc.

    The fact that Amasova lasted longer than Goodnight, Sutton, Suzuki, Case and Goodhead is what undermines its credibility.

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 41,011
    Monday Vote:

    Honey Ryder: 18
    Tatiana Romanova: 22
    Pussy Galore: 15
    Domino Derval: 14
    Tracy Bond: 24 (-1)
    Solitaire: 18
    Melina Havelock: 17
    Octopussy: 8
    Kara Milovy: 17
    Pam Bouvier: 10
    Natalya Simonova: 15 (+1)
    Wai Lin: 10
    Vesper Lynd: 24
    Camille Montes: 7
    Severine: 11

    Eliminated:
    16. Anya Amasova
    17. Holly Goodhead
    18. Tiffany Case
    19. Kissy Suzuki
    20. Stacey Sutton
    21. Christmas Jones
    22. Mary Goodnight
    23. Jinx
  • jobojobo
    Posts: 7,507
    Anya Amasova maybe is a decent character, but Barbara Bach's performance... I'd probably rank it as one of the very worst, if not the worst in the series... Yes, in all honesty. Put Britt Ekland in the same role, and she would have done equally well. Maybe better...

    The only scene where Bach's acting is convincing is when she gets hysterically scared of running water near the end... because she wasn't acting, of course... And that is exactly the kind of reaction you would expect from 'Russia's best spy', isn't it? X_X
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Moonday
    Honey Ryder: 18
    Tatiana Romanova: 22
    Pussy Galore: 15
    Domino Derval: 14
    Tracy Bond: 24
    Solitaire: 18
    Melina Havelock: 18 (+1)
    Octopussy: 7 (-1)
    Kara Milovy: 17
    Pam Bouvier: 10
    Natalya Simonova: 15
    Wai Lin: 10
    Vesper Lynd: 24
    Camille Montes: 7
    Severine: 11

    Eliminated:
    16. Anya Amasova
    17. Holly Goodhead
    18. Tiffany Case
    19. Kissy Suzuki
    20. Stacey Sutton
    21. Christmas Jones
    22. Mary Goodnight
    23. Jinx
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    jobo wrote:
    Anya Amasova maybe is a decent character, but Barbara Bach's performance... I'd probably rank it as one of the very worst, if not the worst in the series... Yes, in all honesty. Put Britt Ekland in the same role, and she would have done equally well. Maybe better...

    The only scene where Bach's acting is convincing is when she gets hysterically scared of running water near the end... because she wasn't acting, of course... And that is exactly the kind of reaction you would expect from 'Russia's best spy', isn't it? X_X

    But honestly, could any one have done it better? I think Barbara is unfairly maligned. The movie is widely loved. No one is claiming she's a great actress, but she just seems perfect for the part and very much of the time.

    I love her performance, immensely wooden as it is. Sometimes somethings are just 'right'.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    Perilagu_Khan wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    This game took a knock to its credibility with the elimination of Anya Amasova before Camille, Pam, Wai Lin etc.

    The fact that Amasova lasted longer than Goodnight, Sutton, Suzuki, Case and Goodhead is what undermines its credibility.

    Time to play the devil's advocate. I for one like how the game has played out. Camille, Pam and Wai Lin are pretty cool and unique, Bond girls that really hold their own amongst so many damsels in distress we have seen too much before. Hell, Wai did more butt kicking than Bond a lot of the time in TND, as did Pam in the bar light in LTK. These Bond girls are great because if I was in a tough spot I know I could depend on them to help me out. Anya on the other hand, I care very little about. She was a cool character up until the moment that she becomes boring and one-dimensional near the end of TSWLM when she conveniently shifts from "I want to kill you in revenge, Bond" to "make love to me now." It's so out of character and it would have been brilliant if Bond and her actually fought to the death because she wanted to do him in for killing her lover. But no, she just dumbs up and sleeps with him like so many the franchise has seen before; a lost opportunity I say.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Anya should have killed Bond.
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    Perilagu_Khan wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    This game took a knock to its credibility with the elimination of Anya Amasova before Camille, Pam, Wai Lin etc.

    The fact that Amasova lasted longer than Goodnight, Sutton, Suzuki, Case and Goodhead is what undermines its credibility.

    Time to play the devil's advocate. I for one like how the game has played out. Camille, Pam and Wai Lin are pretty cool and unique, Bond girls that really hold their own amongst so many damsels in distress we have seen too much before. Hell, Wai did more butt kicking than Bond a lot of the time in TND, as did Pam in the bar light in LTK. These Bond girls are great because if I was in a tough spot I know I could depend on them to help me out. Anya on the other hand, I care very little about. She was a cool character up until the moment that she becomes boring and one-dimensional near the end of TSWLM when she conveniently shifts from "I want to kill you in revenge, Bond" to "make love to me now." It's so out of character and it would have been brilliant if Bond and her actually fought to the death because she wanted to do him in for killing her lover. But no, she just dumbs up and sleeps with him like so many the franchise has seen before; a lost opportunity I say.

    But you're saying she was a cool character for most of the movie, in that case...
  • jobojobo
    edited June 2014 Posts: 7,507
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    Perilagu_Khan wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    This game took a knock to its credibility with the elimination of Anya Amasova before Camille, Pam, Wai Lin etc.

    The fact that Amasova lasted longer than Goodnight, Sutton, Suzuki, Case and Goodhead is what undermines its credibility.

    Time to play the devil's advocate. I for one like how the game has played out. Camille, Pam and Wai Lin are pretty cool and unique, Bond girls that really hold their own amongst so many damsels in distress we have seen too much before. Hell, Wai did more butt kicking than Bond a lot of the time in TND, as did Pam in the bar light in LTK. These Bond girls are great because if I was in a tough spot I know I could depend on them to help me out. Anya on the other hand, I care very little about. She was a cool character up until the moment that she becomes boring and one-dimensional near the end of TSWLM when she conveniently shifts from "I want to kill you in revenge, Bond" to "make love to me now." It's so out of character and it would have been brilliant if Bond and her actually fought to the death because she wanted to do him in for killing her lover. But no, she just dumbs up and sleeps with him like so many the franchise has seen before; a lost opportunity I say.

    Like Bond would have had anything to fear from Anya? There's not a single moment in the film that would indicate she is a worthy adversary to Bond. She is basically just a 'guest passanger'... who needs saving from time to time...
  • SuperheroSithSuperheroSith SE London
    edited June 2014 Posts: 578
    Honey Ryder: 18
    Tatiana Romanova: 21 (-1)
    Pussy Galore: 15
    Domino Derval: 14
    Tracy Bond: 24
    Solitaire: 18
    Melina Havelock: 18
    Octopussy: 7
    Kara Milovy: 17
    Pam Bouvier: 10
    Natalya Simonova: 16 (+1)
    Wai Lin: 10
    Vesper Lynd: 24
    Camille Montes: 7
    Severine: 11

    Eliminated:
    16. Anya Amasova
    17. Holly Goodhead
    18. Tiffany Case
    19. Kissy Suzuki
    20. Stacey Sutton
    21. Christmas Jones
    22. Mary Goodnight
    23. Jinx
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    Getafix wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    Perilagu_Khan wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    This game took a knock to its credibility with the elimination of Anya Amasova before Camille, Pam, Wai Lin etc.

    The fact that Amasova lasted longer than Goodnight, Sutton, Suzuki, Case and Goodhead is what undermines its credibility.

    Time to play the devil's advocate. I for one like how the game has played out. Camille, Pam and Wai Lin are pretty cool and unique, Bond girls that really hold their own amongst so many damsels in distress we have seen too much before. Hell, Wai did more butt kicking than Bond a lot of the time in TND, as did Pam in the bar light in LTK. These Bond girls are great because if I was in a tough spot I know I could depend on them to help me out. Anya on the other hand, I care very little about. She was a cool character up until the moment that she becomes boring and one-dimensional near the end of TSWLM when she conveniently shifts from "I want to kill you in revenge, Bond" to "make love to me now." It's so out of character and it would have been brilliant if Bond and her actually fought to the death because she wanted to do him in for killing her lover. But no, she just dumbs up and sleeps with him like so many the franchise has seen before; a lost opportunity I say.

    But you're saying she was a cool character for most of the movie, in that case...

    She had promise, yes, but then the writers gave her an out-of-character send off that was lack luster and disappointing. As Bond girls go she just comes off as forgettable to me when stacked up against more interesting Bond girls with actual depth.
    jobo wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    Perilagu_Khan wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    This game took a knock to its credibility with the elimination of Anya Amasova before Camille, Pam, Wai Lin etc.

    The fact that Amasova lasted longer than Goodnight, Sutton, Suzuki, Case and Goodhead is what undermines its credibility.

    Time to play the devil's advocate. I for one like how the game has played out. Camille, Pam and Wai Lin are pretty cool and unique, Bond girls that really hold their own amongst so many damsels in distress we have seen too much before. Hell, Wai did more butt kicking than Bond a lot of the time in TND, as did Pam in the bar light in LTK. These Bond girls are great because if I was in a tough spot I know I could depend on them to help me out. Anya on the other hand, I care very little about. She was a cool character up until the moment that she becomes boring and one-dimensional near the end of TSWLM when she conveniently shifts from "I want to kill you in revenge, Bond" to "make love to me now." It's so out of character and it would have been brilliant if Bond and her actually fought to the death because she wanted to do him in for killing her lover. But no, she just dumbs up and sleeps with him like so many the franchise has seen before; a lost opportunity I say.

    Like Bond would have had anything to fear from Anya? There's not a single moment in the film that would indicate she is a worthy adversary for Bond. She is basically just a 'guest passanger'... who needs saving from time to time...

    Obviously in a straight fight Bond would win, but in that situation she had Bond in her sights and under her control, gun trained at his heart and yet suddenly the feelings of revenge and anger she has had all film simply fly away and she sleeps with Bond. Snore.
  • GetafixGetafix
    edited June 2014 Posts: 11,425
    You snooze, you lose.

    I think it would have changed the whole character of the film, which is arguably Rog's masterpiece. I see where people are coming from, but isn't it missing the point a bit? Spy is a glorious self-homage to Bond in all his campy 70s glory. It has never been done better and arguably EON should never have even thought about returning to that particular formula. But in the context of Spy, Anya is perfection.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 41,011
    @SuperheroSith, Vesper and Tracy are both ahead of her.
  • jobojobo
    edited June 2014 Posts: 7,507
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    jobo wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    Perilagu_Khan wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    This game took a knock to its credibility with the elimination of Anya Amasova before Camille, Pam, Wai Lin etc.

    The fact that Amasova lasted longer than Goodnight, Sutton, Suzuki, Case and Goodhead is what undermines its credibility.

    Time to play the devil's advocate. I for one like how the game has played out. Camille, Pam and Wai Lin are pretty cool and unique, Bond girls that really hold their own amongst so many damsels in distress we have seen too much before. Hell, Wai did more butt kicking than Bond a lot of the time in TND, as did Pam in the bar light in LTK. These Bond girls are great because if I was in a tough spot I know I could depend on them to help me out. Anya on the other hand, I care very little about. She was a cool character up until the moment that she becomes boring and one-dimensional near the end of TSWLM when she conveniently shifts from "I want to kill you in revenge, Bond" to "make love to me now." It's so out of character and it would have been brilliant if Bond and her actually fought to the death because she wanted to do him in for killing her lover. But no, she just dumbs up and sleeps with him like so many the franchise has seen before; a lost opportunity I say.

    Like Bond would have had anything to fear from Anya? There's not a single moment in the film that would indicate she is a worthy adversary for Bond. She is basically just a 'guest passanger'... who needs saving from time to time...

    Obviously in a straight fight Bond would win, but in that situation she had Bond in her sights and under her control, gun trained at his heart and yet suddenly the feelings of revenge and anger she has had all film simply fly away and she sleeps with Bond. Snore.

    My point is that because Amasova is no real threat to Bond, the whole 'revenge subplot' is very ineffective, dear I say, almost laughable. And if Anya really had (tried to) kill(ed) Bond after he had saved her life and been caught of guard as a consequence... it would not only be rude but also quite a cowardly act, and no real enhancement of the character...
  • Perilagu_KhanPerilagu_Khan
    Posts: 2,483
    jobo wrote:
    Anya Amasova maybe is a decent character, but Barbara Bach's performance... I'd probably rank it as one of the very worst, if not the worst in the series... Yes, in all honesty. Put Britt Ekland in the same role, and she would have done equally well. Maybe better...

    The only scene where Bach's acting is convincing is when she gets hysterically scared of running water near the end... because she wasn't acting, of course... And that is exactly the kind of reaction you would expect from 'Russia's best spy', isn't it? X_X

    Agreed on Bach's acting. Simply atrocious. I've seen livelier performances from a rusty pipe. And hell, she was not even what I'd call beautiful. At bare minimum, a Bond girl needs to be a woman you can't take your eyes off of.

  • Perilagu_KhanPerilagu_Khan
    Posts: 2,483
    Getafix wrote:
    You snooze, you lose.

    I think it would have changed the whole character of the film, which is arguably Rog's masterpiece. I see where people are coming from, but isn't it missing the point a bit? Spy is a glorious self-homage to Bond in all his campy 70s glory. It has never been done better and arguably EON should never have even thought about returning to that particular formula. But in the context of Spy, Anya is perfection.

    I like Spy despite Bach's presence. With a superior Bond girl, Spy would be a classic, IMO.

  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
    Posts: 1,596
    Honey Ryder: 18
    Tatiana Romanova: 21
    Pussy Galore: 15
    Domino Derval: 15 (+1)
    Tracy Bond: 24 (-1)
    Solitaire: 18
    Melina Havelock: 18
    Octopussy: 7
    Kara Milovy: 17
    Pam Bouvier: 9
    Natalya Simonova: 16
    Wai Lin: 10
    Vesper Lynd: 24
    Camille Montes: 7
    Severine: 11

    Eliminated:
    16. Anya Amasova
    17. Holly Goodhead
    18. Tiffany Case
    19. Kissy Suzuki
    20. Stacey Sutton
    21. Christmas Jones
    22. Mary Goodnight
    23. Jinx
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