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Bloody irritating and annoying so shortly for the remembrance service, probably the only way to get attention. Still it beats a bombing.
This is against a historical background of colonialism, economic exploitation, political interference and western support for dodgy and corrupt regimes across the third world throughout the Cold War.
Against this background the real surprise is actually that there haven't been more attacks on the west. How have we got away with it all for so long?
I repeat, I do not sympathise with bombers, or condone their actions. I think the 7/7 bombers were tragically, profoundly misguided and utterly wrong. But given what we allow our governments to get away with, is it really any surprise that some people feel driven to these extreme actions?
And although this act of desecrating the memorial is clearly deeply offensive, what is actually worse - this deliberately provocative vandalism, or the tens/hundreds of thousands of deaths that western stupidy and arrogance has brought about in predominantly Muslim countries over the past decade?
The irony is that all our aggression has actually played directly into the hands of the likes of Al Queida and ISIS. By getting rid of Saddam we actually gave them their biggest ever opportunity and created the best possible recruiting campaign for Islamic extremism.
I doubt that the blame for this act can be laid at the feet of Muslims, I sense a different group having a hand in this.............. One of a more western persuasion.
Trust me,and if you lived here you would know this @SaintMark , it was Muslims who did this........and a lot of other things that probably havent reached your newspapers there.
Agreed - this is probably a Muslim group doing this, rather than a secular anti-war group.
Easy targets for easy thinking people.
You forget that there are groups of left wing people that detest the government and their choices, they would leave a similar message.
The bottom line is, it's despicable. You don't get your point across about 'innocents' by targeting other 'innocents'.
The bottom line that the act is despicable, I fully agree.
Despicable is also the evidence free blaming of a certain group simply because it is easy and does not require any thinking. The gut overrules the brain too often for it to be worthwhile a lot of the time. Which is a shame, because they're issues that really need to be discussed rationally and calmly, and sometimes that's just impossible.
The act is despicable find out who is behind it and then blame somebody.
Sorry @SaintMark, but if you've read my earlier post, I hope you'll see that I'm not on the anti-Muslim bandwagon here. However, if you'll actually look at the evidence you'll notice that the grafitti contains the slogan: "4Innocent Muslims". Non-Muslim anti-war protestors would have been highly unlikely to have used this slogan. The secular anti-war movement might detest what our western governments have done, but it is highly unlikely that they would go as far as describing the 7/7 bombers as 'innocent'. This act of vandalism is clearly the work of some misguided Islamic protest group.
Remember - there is a flip side to those who blame everything on Muslims. And that is those who refuse to acknowledge the toxic role of Islamic extremism despite the clear evidence in front of them. 'Easy thinking' is not the exclusive preserve of anti-Muslims.
For me it felt more as a protest against the fact that the people dying in the far east/middle east have no place for remembrance and get not remembered.
So you see a difference in reading this awefull vandalism which is totally inappropriate and the perpetrators should be caught. But like I said I am not convinced it is Muslims.
I am pretty sure that is a reference to the 4 bombers.
Also, and I could of course be wrong, but I would be hugely, hugely surprised if any one from the mainstream anti-war movement regarded this memorial to innocent victims of terrorism as a legitemate target in their campaign. If anything, those in the anti-war movement would see the 7/7 bombing victims as victims of a wider conflict, that they see as largely caused by western aggression. Why would any one in the mainstream anti-war movement do this?
Only a protest group with an Islamic tinge would go as far as claiming the bombers were 'innocent' - this smacks of a Muslim extremist narrative in which the bombers were legitemate 'jihadi' combatants .
Believe me,these cowards were NOT innocent or legitimate.
Serious?
I will spell it out for you. I am agreeing with the sentiment articulated by @saintmark. But I thought that was clear. Apparently not.
"Blair Lied Thousands Died" does not sound like Islamic Jihadi sloganeering.
Must have been dreadful.
Whoever the culprits are, I hope they get caught.
When i finally got on a train to get back as close to home as i could (all the trains were obviously up the creek) i got half a carriage to myself as my white shirt was bloodstained from helping people before the emergency services got there,so people on the train moved from me,still in shock i suspect from the events. !!
When the Oslo bombs went off, I was living there and the explosion went off right about the time I usually passed the government complex on my way home from work. Thankfully I was on a holiday and out of town until two days later.
Seconded. Thanks for sharing your experiences of that terrible day, Barry.
Ditto. Thank you @barryt007