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Years later I found it rather boring.
Yet again years later I found it very solid.
In any case, the documentaries and mock-up extended cut which are on some DVDs are very fascinating. The wooden planet is so out there, I have no idea how anyone could seriously come up with such an idea, but it would have been even more surreal than Alien 4.
I never thought that Alien Resurrection was meant as a scary movie. It´s much more about dystopian surrealism.
Ridley Scott seems to have a big say in it, according to media reports he pushed the shooting of Neil Blomkamp´s Alien 5 back, so it won´t collide with his own Prometheus sequel, which in the meantime got the word Alien in its title. Scott said he surely wants to make Alien 5, but I´m not sure if Blomkamp is still on board.
Which character was that? (see my 'another random bald guy' comment above) I remember laughing at that for five minutes straight the first time I saw it!
After rewatching it just now, that stupid bouncy ball with the dripping blood is the icing on the cake!
Some great supporting characters (a staple of the previous two films and the best element of the fourth film), a superb score, cracking sets, a very unsettling horror vibe and a great performance by Weaver.
Some of the Special Effects are ropey but luckily Fincher is so skilled at creating atmosphere and tension that I am able to look past the dodgy zero's and one's.
I always wonder, if given enough time, will this film ever receive a bit more credit? It seems to be stuck in the middle as the least watched Alien film by the masses. The first two are well known because of their undeniable quality, while the fourth is remembered for being trash. Alien 3 seems to hold the middle ground, and thus is often not remembered as much. Might just be me, though.
The thing is with Alien3 is that the film makers really didn't know in which direction to go with the film, even when they were actually making it, as i remember, there were so many changes to the script, that the production team had to keep on ripping down sets, and making new ones. It's a wonder that Fincher managed to get any sort of decent film out of this mess.
Regarding the fact that there were no guns battles in this film, this was all down to S.Weaver, who suggested that she didn't want to do another Aliens action type film, and that the prisoners would have to use their initiative, to find ways of defeating the creature.
One good point of Alien3 that no one has mentioned, is that i think the soundtrack to the film was very good indeed, and it helped to create the feeling of dread in the film.
I mentioned it a couple of posts up. A magnificent, broody score. It's really quite subtle for the first hour then absolutely goes full power for the last hour. The music during the final scene is incredible.
In fact, all four Alien films have had impressive soundtracks - despite no recurring motifs or themes.
Or maybe no problem at all, because Alien³ performed very well oversees and ended up making almost as much money as its predecessors. Of course that small detail is easily overlooked by people who seem to think that our money isn't as good as American bucks.
People often blame Fincher for not making Alien 2.0 but just to make things clear: Sigourney Weaver didn't want to do this film unless they departed from marines, guns and aliens everywhere. She now acted as an executive producer and made her demands. Even if he had wanted to make another war in space movie, Fincher couldn't have.
Goldenthal's score, as some have already pointed out, is one of the best things of this film. I also love the designs, some of the performances (e.g. Charles Dance) and the camera work. The extended cut, by the way, is my favorite of the two.
Fox wasn't handling this property with love but with greed. They wanted Fincher to roll over, play ball, say "yes sir" and "no sir" and never object to anything. But Fincher is an artist. He creates things, he doesn't copy-paste them. Luckily, he got his revenge. Nowadays, david fincher is David Fincher! And David Fincher won't show up for Alien³ commentary stuff or interviews. And though I'm a fan of the movie and the series, I don't blame him.
By the way, what came after Alien³ saddens me. Based on a screenplay by Joss Whedon and directed by the goofy Jean-Pierre Jeunet, Alien Resurrection is half comedy, half fantasy and barely qualifies as a horror film. While I like some of Jeunet's movies, I wonder if it was ever a good choice to hire him for an alien film...
I didn't care for the fourth film either. I had never seen any of the Alien films before I bought the Blu-ray boxset a couple of years ago and watched them all over a weekend. The fourth one really stood out as being the odd film out in terms. Definitely a misstep for the franchise.
Maybe the problem was that writer-producers David Giler and Walter Hill just weren't that enthused about making a third Alien movie? Though I did quite like one early concept, where Giler and Hill envisioned a story which would take place over two films. In the first, Michael Biehn would take the lead as Hicks, while Ripley would spend the entirety of the story in hypersleep and Newt would be sent back to the safety of Earth. The second film would have seen Ripley revived for another fight with her mortal enemy, the aliens. Okay, it's not a plot you can hang your hat on, but it's much better than what we got. It seems that Fox president Joe Roth just couldn't envisage an Alien movie without Ripley as its centrepiece, so the idea of Hicks helming one movie bit the dust pretty quickly. Shame.
I saw Alien³ at the cinema when it was first released in 1993 and I thoroughly disliked it then, and I still thoroughly dislike it now - Extended Cut or Whatever Cut you want to call it. I simply despise the story set in and around a penal colony with bald men, who all look the same and are pretty indistinguishable from each other. It also feels like a poor rehash of Alien all over again, with boring characters nobody cares about or can relate to, and an ending that seems "forced" on us. Despite Fincher's eye for a beautiful shot, the final result is a cluster****** of epic proportions. This is what happens when you let the survivor of the first movie, a certain Sigourney Weaver, have too much of a say about which direction the series should go in.
On a side note, I also seem to recall the orange/yellow hue that pervaded SP being all over the film. I'm not sure if I'm imagining things. The original Alien evoked the coldness & lonliness of space itself, while Aliens had a sort of bluish hue.
While I don´t feel the same, I don´t find your point entirely wrong. There were times my feelings went into the same direction, except for the epic bit.
I think it manages to keep that impression up to a certain extent. The artsy and auteurish element was the first thing that made the film interesting for me, and it still is the major reason for me to respect the film.
IIRC in Alien3 the orange hue feels kind of integral and contributes to the overall atmosphere, as does the green hue in Alien 4, whereas in SP it feels like a layer put over the film, with the effect of disturbing the atmosphere instead of enhancing it.
Eerie, gothic, majestic and powerful.
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The Big Short
Bridge Of Spies
Brooklyn
Mad Max: Fury Road
The Martian
The Revenant
Room
Spotlight
It has got to be "Room", for me. Have yet to see "The Big Short" yet, though. Most of the others are great films too, though. However, "The Revenant" did absolutely nothing for me. A bloated, self indulgent affair.
I've seen all the others, and The Revenant really blew me away. So that one gets my vote.
However, I'd be happy with The Martian, The Big Short or Bridge of Spies taking the honours also. MM-FR was very good, but I personally feel it was too action oriented a film for this honour. Spotlight was good, but I feel like I've seen that film before somewhere (there's something derivative about the reporter procedural to me).
Best picture: Spotlight
Best leading actor: Leonardo Di Caprio
Best leading actress: Brie Larson
Best supporting actor: Sylvester Stallone
Best supporting actress: Alicia Vikander
Best director: Alejandro González Iñárritu
Best original screenplay: Spotlight
Best adapted screenplay: Room
Best animated feature: Inside Out
Best foreign picture: Saul Fia
Best cinematography: The Revenant
Best film editing: Mad Max: Fury Road
Production design: Mad Max: Fury Road
Costume design: Mad Max: Fury Road
Best makeup: Mad Max: Fury Road
Best original score: Ennio Morricone
Best original song: Sam Smith, Spectre
Best Sound mixing: Mad Max: Fury Road
Best sound editing: Mad Max: Fury Road
Best visual effects: Mad Max: Fury Road
Best documentary: Amy
Best documentary short: Last Day of Freedom
Best animated short: World of Tomorrow
Best live action short: Day One
Of the 5 that I have seen I loved MMFR. I need to see The Revenant again to make sure where I stand with it, but I did like it very much. Those two are my top 2 of the 5 I've seen.
I liked Spotlight a lot, but while it's good and well made and has an important story, it's not a movie that really needs to be seen on a big screen, I feel no need to re-watch it, and it wasn't particularly memorable in any way at all. I wanted to like The Martian, but I just couldn't, and it didn't work for me at all. Bridge Of Spies was more entertaining than I dared to expect from the trailer, well made and looked very good, but nothing amazing on the whole.
As for the actual winner, it seems to be a 3 movie race between The Big Short (PGA winner), Spotlight (SAG ensemble winner), and The Revenant (DGA winner). If anything else were to win BP it would be quite a shock and a huge surprise. One interesting aspect is also that unlike the other categories the BP is decided by preferential ballot (PGA also uses that).
MMFR and TBS have ACE wins, and most likely the editing Oscar will go to one of those two.
Looking forward to what WGA, ASC and BAFTA decide this Saturday and Sunday...
They? The AMPAS? :-O That would be a hilariously unexpected event. =))
The Martian is a worthy contender, I guess.
Not in my book. But probably in that of a big part of the jury.
Bridge Of Spies
I wouldn´t mind. But there was at least one better film.
Brooklyn
Haven´t seen.
Mad Max: Fury Road
Yes, definitely. Direction, script, cinematography, characters, storytelling, content, this is the winner.
The Martian
A masterclass lesson in turning a situation that is per definitionem extremely boring into two-and-a-half hours of non-stop entertainment. But no contender for the Oscar for best film.
The Revenant
No. Cinematography, direction, acting, yes, it´s all great. But I wouldn´t give an Oscar two a two-and-a-half hour depiction of a freezing hell.
Room
No idea. Maybe I´ll watch it some day.
Spotlight
Never heard of it.
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Serious i think movie should get atleast Razzie nomation. I expect the worse from this secret, but this is also not realy.. I don't know. If not this secret, then atleast for what there not did with Denbirgh.
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