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Agreed. CR and to a lesser extent QoS lacked truly Bondian touches. MR might not be top notch but it is unmistakably a Bond movie.
MR has silliness with a touch of class.
Which is better?
Very good point. I think MR does pull this off whereas DAD goes too far.
Lets not forget that space shuttles actually existed and flew hundreds of missions. Even 10 years on the invisible car isnt even close to being realised as it is in the film.
Lewis Gilbert had done TWO Bond films previously so he was no stranger to the series. Likewise Cubby had done 10 films previously so he again was no stranger.
Also, there were no risks to the Bond formula in MR as such.
Let's not forget that prior to his 3 epic fantastical Bond outings, Gilbert was most know for more serious dramas and thrillers.
Indeed. Can you imagine Derek Medddings signing off on the parasurfing sequence? Even back in the 70s Derek wouldve pissed all over those Gameboy quality CGI effects.
i dont think MR gets away with it. The line with the humour was crossed repeatedly and it did go OTT I am afraid.
I love it anyway, but am aware of its faults.
But I do like the scene where they slam on the spacestation brakes and everyone goes flying into walls, falls over etc
Great moment. Barry, as usual, underscores it nicely.
I've never understood the OTT or lack of realism complaints. Seeing the following poster:
http://www.publispain.com/posters/moonraker.jpg
pretty much made it clear that realism was never one of MR's goals. It aims no more than to be a fun, escapist diversion for 126 minutes and completely succeeds at its ambitions. Moore's in his prime before his age started to show and it also has one of my 3 favorite female supporting casts(along with TB and OHMSS) in the series. I consider it to be the best of the Bond films that are not faithful to their Fleming literary source.
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Hit the nail firmly on the head =D>
Bravo!
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Anyway, here's a question. What if Bond had not gone into space at the end? What if the story had been the same up to being captured by Drax and then he had stopped Drax's plot in the Amazon base, perhaps by blowing something big up. Would you like the movie more or less?
Well put, Our_Man_Flint. Very cool and appropriate username, BTW. MR is very much in the spirit of the Flint pictures(and I mean that as a compliment to both MR and to the Flint pics).
Less. Because we more or less already had the Bond almost goes into space plot in YOLT.
I totally understand that, although I didn't think quite that way about AVTAK because I knew it was Moore's finale as Bond and all I could do was hope the next actor would bring a more serious portrayal closer to Sir Sean. I love the insanity Walken and Willoughby Gray bring as the villains and at least I was infinitely more entertained. Thankfully we got FYEO and Dalton/TLD in response.
But surely those who saw the Connery pics at the cinema were more disappointed with QOS than MR, simply because with MR, you knew what you were getting kind of? QOS was built up and hyped so much, it failed to deliver big time?
Just a theory I'm putting out there
Since I was fortunate/old enough to see Connery when he was still the only Bond, I think the exact opposite. I already knew the minute that the writer's strike occurred that there might be issues with QOS, made real when I learned that the script hadn't been completed and that they were behind schedule. I've always said that what I hoped for QOS to do is to tell me more about Vesper and this unnamed "organization", and to see Bond continue to grow and learn and come to grips with losing Vesper and what his job entails. So despite the casualties of the strike (lack of character development for all others, the hiring of Bourne crew members who obviously seem to think that all spy movies should be filmed the same way, and the resulting time constraints), it mostly accomplished answering the questions I had. I would have liked to see Bond revealing more about his feelings and perhaps even breaking down but then that might be too out of character. So overall I wouldn't say I was more than mildly disappointed, it's a victim of circumstances and it is what it is.
I think I have more than explained my disdain for MR in comparison to the story I expected to see. There are some good things in there, a great soundtrack and performance from Sir Roger and beautiful locations, but that's about all and only DAD I find to be worse.
Definetly fortunate enough!
I did think QOS was very weak and wasn't that good. It just seem muddled to me. I didn't think we learnt enough about Quantum and think the producers are making a mistake by not addressing it in SF. It wasn't like SPECTRE in DN/FRWL where them two films established the group sufficiently so Goldfinger could be a non-SPECTRE Bond film. I just felt it was a weak film and is the second worse entry into the series (after DAD). Vesper's death, if the truth be told, was as much ignored in QOS as Tracy's death was in DAF.
Every Bond film I have seen in the cinema from TWINE, DAD, CR and QOS has disappointed me in some way cause they have felt almost unBondian to me. Why I love MR so much is because it doesn't pretend to be something it's not.
I dont recall alot of Roger Moore films, I've been trying to forget them so I can rewatch them.
I do recall feeling somewhat cheated on Nightfire the video game though as it started so well then boiled down to a moonraker action remake.
I'd love to read the film adaptation of Moonraker...would be enjoyable. The fleming version of Moonraker is more related to DAD
Nightfire is an amazing game, bettered only by Goldeneye on the N64
If you want I can type up the film adaptation of Moonraker a page a post.
yea the plot was muddled slightly. But the multiplayer was amazing...played on it for hours when I was living out at university with my mates. That's not a Bond game is it?
Ah that's nice of you but would take ages! I'll buy a 1p copy off Amazon. Thanks anyway!