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I beg to differ. The aggresion towards it occationaly gets exaggerated and obnoxious.
@Birdleson - sorry to hear you got a hard time for not liking it as much as others. You can trust me to not engage in that kind of behaviour on here. I think disagreements are good cause they generate discussion. But anyway - what can you do?
On a personal note - when I was here under a different name I got absolutely destroyed for the sin of not minding one day if a black guy plays Bond. My exact words were "Who cares? it's only a movie!" and I was surprised (although maybe I shouldn't have been) at the amount of people who lost their damn minds.
My stay this time has been a lot more pleasant.
Exactly. BTW as I see things I don't think liking SP should be considered controversial.
I dispute this !!!
It's probably my favorite, so I'm even worse!
Look, in a few years, all the hyperventilating will cease, and silly folks will stop pretending Spectre is worse than DAF or AVTAK. Hell, people are now coming round to the Star Wars prequels, and Spectre is a lot better than those.
Agreed. AVTAK is in my Top 15 so that’s pretty controversial by itself. I recognize its issues but I’ve been having a ton of fun with it my last several watches. SP has languished near the bottom for a while now for me.
Agreed.
But then, you're also about the only one here that hates TLD (or at least Kara), aren't you?
Count me as one more person who's not a fan of Kara.
Exactly, words of sense.
Four years on (I consider that quite a considerable amount of time) and it still sits at no.23 for me. My opinion of the film hasn’t moved one inch.
Because she's resourceful and saves Bond?
True. Can’t argue with that. Just not as high on my list as some of the others, that’s all.
I was joking with you (what is up with people on here recently ),but in answer to your question,i probably dislike her the most,but there are others as well :
And right on queue here is one.
Hey, I love DAF and AVATK! And I certainly don't despise any Bond film as much as you hate Spectre! I mean, despite what you say in your comment, you frequently tell people who rank SP in the low teens that they're too generous to the film. So come on.
I just meant that, as most of us have learned to overlook the massive issues with DAF and AVTAK (or YOLT or TB or TMWTGG or whatever), most people are going to eventually get less butthurt about Spectre and figure out how to approach the film on its terms and have a good time.
Something went janky with the quotes here....
But hey, as an infrequent commenter, I don't have much rapport with anyone generally. I was just telling another Spectre fan that in a decade or so, no normal person is going to rank that at the bottom, which I suspect is true. And you may suspect that no normal person would rank it above last, because the film has zero enjoyable moments. It hit a point of crapiness that none of the previous 23 films hit. That's terrific, and we'll see how it all pans out. (Obviously every single new Bond film released from now til forever will be a strong candidate for "worst ever", because internet)
Point is, I see the flaws in Spectre, and I think many of the criticisms are true. But the hyperbole with which the film is criticized is extreme enough to be called "butthurt", and is unlikely to persist to retrospective lists published 10 years from now.
EDIT: I fixed the screwed up quotes
Personally, I found SP to be a horribly bad film. My opinion and ranking of the film is unlikely to change anytime soon.
Well, wait and see. I suspect that many future Bond films will be battling it out for the "most intolerable, least intersting" mantle.
In my experience (for what that’s worth) it’s often the release of the next film that makes people rethink an earlier one. If NTTD turns out to be an absolute stinker then people will reconsider SP.
It’s a bit like Prime Ministers in the UK. Every current PM is widely regarded to be the worst one, until the next one turns up, and then people suddenly start seeing hitherto unrecognised qualities of leadership and statesmanship in the previous one ;)
If you enjoy Brosnan in the role then all the films are watchable at least.
Goldeneye nudges the two films that followed for me simply because the side characters are generally more engaging. The villains are a bit more memorable.
TND has Yeo and she was memorable I'll grant, but the rest of the film is a bit formulaic and forgettable fluff IMO.
TWINE has a fairy poor villain but Brosnan is bang on form here so that makes the film a fun ride for watch every now and again.
DAD is best watched purely with Bondian brain switched off and fo those who seek outlandish thrills. If you dont like SciFi at all, probably best to avoid DAD though.