Bond movie ranking (Simple list, no details)

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  • skropper13skropper13 United States
    Posts: 117
    Mathis1 wrote: »

    Dont agree on your stance on SP, skropper13, but each to their own.
    Your list is excellent, top 3 are perfect!

    Thank you Mathis! I totally get why people like SP. it’s filled to the brim with classic bond moments and bond references. I’m much less of a purist when it comes to bond. I loved the new take on certain tropes and the complete disappearance of others. Keeps things more interesting to me. OHMSS and CR pretty much share the lead for me for that exact reason lol
  • FoxRox wrote: »
    Ranking the films by how much I enjoy the titles (I don't dislike any of them by the way - all good or better for me!), updated for No Time to Die:

    1. Thunderball
    2. Goldfinger
    3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    4. From Russia with Love
    5. Casino Royale
    6. The Spy Who Loved Me
    7. Live and Let Die
    8. You Only Live Twice
    9. Skyfall
    10. Moonraker
    11. Dr. No
    12. For Your Eyes Only
    13. The World Is Not Enough
    14. The Living Daylights
    15. GoldenEye
    16. No Time to Die
    17. A View to a Kill
    18. Licence to Kill
    19. The Man with the Golden Gun
    20. Diamonds Are Forever
    21. Quantum of Solace
    22. Tomorrow Never Dies
    23. Die Another Day
    24. Spectre
    25. Octopussy

    Ho can you put NTTD at number 16 when it hasn't even been released!?
  • ok...i just realised its about how much you enjoy the titles…!
  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
    Posts: 1,036
    skropper13 wrote: »

    Very simple, I hated SP. felt the story was very poorly written, characters under developed and action scenes lacked any tension or grip to me. It’s also mostly a joke and a matter of opinion. Sorry that that is unintelligible you good sir.

    Excellent list by the way! While I find Spectre quite enjoyable (it’s mid tier for me), there’s definitely a sense that it’s a bunch of talent working with a hopeless script. It’s a well polished turd. A pig with exquisite lipstick. Veneer. Bloated. Somewhere in there amongst the chaos there is a good film though... (at least up through the Morocco train scene).
  • skropper13skropper13 United States
    Posts: 117

    Excellent list by the way! While I find Spectre quite enjoyable (it’s mid tier for me), there’s definitely a sense that it’s a bunch of talent working with a hopeless script. It’s a well polished turd. A pig with exquisite lipstick. Veneer. Bloated. Somewhere in there amongst the chaos there is a good film though... (at least up through the Morocco train scene).

    Thanks! For me it was great up until the car chase scene. The fact that he was on the phone severely distracted the scene from having any real tension. Felt like a wasted opportunity. Then the entire third act just felt forced and characters had no drive. The plot twist and the fact that all the DC movies were connected in a really lazy predictable way ruined a lot of the last 4 movies for me as a running story. Very unfortunate they went the route they did, so much potential when that film was being made 😢

  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited September 2019 Posts: 4,343
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I agree. @matt_u , please keep the snottiness to yourself.

    There was no offense in my response and I’m totally free to express how I feel about such a strong position like putting SP at the far bottom of a list. SP miles beyond something like DAD is unintelligible, to me, like I said. And I’m free to say that. So please, keep the censorship do something more appropriate.
    skropper13 wrote: »

    Very simple, I hated SP. felt the story was very poorly written, characters under developed and action scenes lacked any tension or grip to me. It’s also mostly a joke and a matter of opinion. Sorry that that is unintelligible you good sir.

    Thanks for the clarification. ;)
  • edited September 2019 Posts: 17,819
    skropper13 wrote: »
    The plot twist and the fact that all the DC movies were connected in a really lazy predictable way ruined a lot of the last 4 movies for me as a running story.

    I feel the same way about SP and the Craig era as a whole. It just shows why it's a bad idea (IMO) to have several Bond films connected. Standalone missions is the way to go.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited September 2019 Posts: 4,343
    Birdleson wrote: »
    @matt_u I will decide what is appropriate. Heed my warning.

    Of course you will. Just want to let you know that agreeing with someone who calls others legitimate and no offensive points of view “crap”, while warning me for just saying my opinion about such a strong position about SP, it’s depressing and definitely not a good example to younger users. BTW hopefully in time you’d be able to appreciate what they did in SP. ;)
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    matt_u wrote: »

    Of course you will. Just want to let you know that agreeing with someone who calls others legitimate and no offensive points of view “crap”, while warning me for just saying my opinion about such a strong position about SP, it’s depressing and definitely not a good example to younger users. BTW hopefully in time you’d be able to appreciate what they did in SP. ;)

    No, it's this nudge nudge wink wink, holier than thou attitude that we're sick of.
    It gets tiresome, and there's no need for it. I simply do not understand why people cannot just accept that for some, Spectre is their least favourite film and be done with it, without feeling obliged to point out that they find it "hilarious".

  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 13,916
    Holier than thou on which side.

    And I'm out.
  • Posts: 16,223
    Seems to be time for a simple ranking............here goes:

    1. GOLDFINGER
    2. THUNDERBALL
    3. THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
    4. DR NO
    5. LIVE AND LET DIE
    6. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
    7. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
    8. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
    9. OCTOPUSSY/NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN
    10. SKYFALL
    11. CASINO ROYALE 06
    12. LICENCE TO KILL
    13. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
    14. MOONRAKER
    15. A VIEW TO A KILL
    16. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH
    17. GOLDENEYE
    18. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
    19. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE/ CR 54
    20. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
    21. QUANTUM OF SOLACE
    22. TOMORROW NEVER DIES/ CR 67
    23. SPECTRE
    24. DIE ANOTHER DAY
  • Posts: 16,223
    Birdleson wrote: »
    Is that an upswing for MR on your list?

    Yes, indeed. I've also been appreciating the Pierce era more lately.
  • GertGettlerGertGettler Laptop Barcelona
    Posts: 431
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Seems to be time for a simple ranking............here goes:

    1. GOLDFINGER
    2. THUNDERBALL
    3. THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
    4. DR NO
    5. LIVE AND LET DIE
    6. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
    7. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
    8. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
    9. OCTOPUSSY/NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN
    10. SKYFALL
    11. CASINO ROYALE 06
    12. LICENCE TO KILL
    13. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
    14. MOONRAKER
    15. A VIEW TO A KILL
    16. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH
    17. GOLDENEYE
    18. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
    19. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE/ CR 54
    20. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
    21. QUANTUM OF SOLACE
    22. TOMORROW NEVER DIES/ CR 67
    23. SPECTRE
    24. DIE ANOTHER DAY

    Last year December, to celebrate the upcoming new year, we did a big ranking competition on jamesbond.nl. We asked every voter to put themselves in the shoes of a movie journalist/critic and come up with their TOP 10 of Best Bond films. Then we added Eurovision-style points to each individual TOP 10 ranking. In the end 340 Bond fans (and other movie lovers), both Dutch and foreign, sent in their TOP 10's. This was the eventual final result ;-):

    https://www.jamesbond.nl/category/jamesbondtop2018/
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  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
    edited September 2019 Posts: 2,252
    Last year December, to celebrate the upcoming new year, we did a big ranking competition on jamesbond.nl. We asked every voter to put themselves in the shoes of a movie journalist/critic and come up with their TOP 10 of Best Bond films. Then we added Eurovision-style points to each individual TOP 10 ranking. In the end 340 Bond fans (and other movie lovers), both Dutch and foreign, sent in their TOP 10's. This was the eventual final result ;-):

    Thanks for that, very interesting! And it's very similar to the rankings I've compiled, despite the different points mechanism (I go through people's rankings and assign 24 to the top and 1 pt to last place, then add up everyone's totals).

    This is my latest Bond forum update from April (Mi6Community, cBn, AJB007):
    01. OHMSS (4398)
    02. CR (4394)
    03. FRWL (4336)
    04. GF (3933)

    05. TLD (3704)
    06. TSWLM (3560)
    07. DN (3464)
    08. SF (3460)
    09. GE (3451)
    10. TB (3180)

    11. LTK (3120)
    12. FYEO (2950)

    13. LALD (2677)
    14. SP (2608)
    15. OP (2541)
    16. YOLT (2400)

    17. QOS (2181)
    18. TND (2066)
    19. TMWTGG (1818)
    20. MR (1799)
    21. TWINE (1749)

    22. DAF (1623)
    23. AVTAK (1467)
    24. DAD (862)
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited September 2019 Posts: 7,207
    Last year December, to celebrate the upcoming new year, we did a big ranking competition on jamesbond.nl. We asked every voter to put themselves in the shoes of a movie journalist/critic and come up with their TOP 10 of Best Bond films. Then we added Eurovision-style points to each individual TOP 10 ranking. In the end 340 Bond fans (and other movie lovers), both Dutch and foreign, sent in their TOP 10's. This was the eventual final result ;-):

    https://www.jamesbond.nl/category/jamesbondtop2018/
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    VMtb5vC.png

    To be honest, that ranking looks a lot like a more ‘general public’ ranking than a Bond fan ranking.
    FRWL, OHMSS, TLD, DN and OP are rather low compared to usual fan forum concensuses.
    Furthermore the top 3, especially in that order, is very much a ‘general public’ view on the Bond series. I would also say the inclusion of the latest film, SP in this case, very much reflects that.

    No offense of course ;), I always appreciate these initiatives.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497

    I feel the same way about SP and the Craig era as a whole. It just shows why it's a bad idea (IMO) to have several Bond films connected. Standalone missions is the way to go.

    But isn't this the "simple list" thread with "no details"?

    [-X

    @ToTheRight interesting top 11... :D
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    GoldenGun wrote: »

    To be honest, that ranking looks a lot like a more ‘general public’ ranking than a Bond fan ranking.
    FRWL, OHMSS, TLD, DN and OP are rather low compared to usual fan forum concensuses.
    Furthermore the top 3, especially in that order, is very much a ‘general public’ view on the Bond series. I would also say the inclusion of the latest film, SP in this case, very much reflects that.

    No offense of course ;), I always appreciate these initiatives.

    This is also some sort of confirmation that in the real world outside this community SP is ranked quite good. Not among the best but 100% above the average Moore/Dalton/Brosnan entry and far above QoS, which in the real world is universally perceived as the worst Craig entry.

  • GertGettlerGertGettler Laptop Barcelona
    Posts: 431
    matt_u wrote: »

    This is also some sort of confirmation that in the real world outside this community SP is ranked quite good. Not among the best but 100% above the average Moore/Dalton/Brosnan entry and far above QoS, which in the real world is universally perceived as the worst Craig entry.

    Perhaps we fans exaggerate a bit sometimes. And therefore non-fans put us with both feet back on our feet again 😜. It's a bit enlightening to escape the fan bubble at times.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    matt_u wrote: »

    This is also some sort of confirmation that in the real world outside this community SP is ranked quite good. Not among the best but 100% above the average Moore/Dalton/Brosnan entry and far above QoS, which in the real world is universally perceived as the worst Craig entry.
    matt_u wrote: »

    This is also some sort of confirmation that in the real world outside this community SP is ranked quite good. Not among the best but 100% above the average Moore/Dalton/Brosnan entry and far above QoS, which in the real world is universally perceived as the worst Craig entry.

    The problem with fans is that they often tend to speak for the rest of "us".

    This comes from a Metallica fan, btw..
  • ToTheRight wrote: »
    Seems to be time for a simple ranking............here goes:

    1. GOLDFINGER
    2. THUNDERBALL
    3. THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
    4. DR NO
    5. LIVE AND LET DIE
    6. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
    7. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
    8. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
    9. OCTOPUSSY/NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN
    10. SKYFALL
    11. CASINO ROYALE 06
    12. LICENCE TO KILL
    13. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
    14. MOONRAKER
    15. A VIEW TO A KILL
    16. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH
    17. GOLDENEYE
    18. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
    19. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE/ CR 54
    20. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
    21. QUANTUM OF SOLACE
    22. TOMORROW NEVER DIES/ CR 67
    23. SPECTRE
    24. DIE ANOTHER DAY

    Excellent Top 5, sir!
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,169
    1. Dr.No
    2. From Russia With Love
    3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    4. Casino Royale
    5. Octopussy
    6. The Living Daylights
    7. Goldfinger
    8. Thunderball
    9. The Spy Who Loved Me
    10. For Your Eyes Only
    11. Live And Let Die
    12. Licence To Kill
    13. GoldenEye
    14. Skyfall
    15. You Only Live Twice
    16. Spectre
    17. Tomorrow Never Dies
    18. Moonraker
    19. A View To A Kill
    20. The Man With The Golden Gun
    21. Die Another Day
    22. Diamonds Are Forever.
    23. Quantum Of Solace
    24. The World Is Not Enough
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 13,916
    matt_u wrote: »
    This is also some sort of confirmation that in the real world outside this community SP is ranked quite good. Not among the best but 100% above the average Moore/Dalton/Brosnan entry and far above QoS, which in the real world is universally perceived as the worst Craig entry.
    Regarding Quantum of Solace, yes, the School of Common knowledge. You're right, @matt_u.

    For Spectre, that's also true about popular opinion. I think it likely extends to this community as well, though folks at this point in Bond History aren't as inclined to voice support alongside some repeated complaints. Similar to the rhythm of Quantum of Solace's reception and eventual "resurrection".
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    The problem with fans is that they often tend to speak for the rest of "us".
    Very, very, very, very true, @JamesCraig.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    Benny wrote: »
    1. Dr.No
    2. From Russia With Love
    3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    4. Casino Royale
    5. Octopussy
    6. The Living Daylights
    7. Goldfinger
    8. Thunderball
    9. The Spy Who Loved Me
    10. For Your Eyes Only
    11. Live And Let Die
    12. Licence To Kill
    13. GoldenEye
    14. Skyfall
    15. You Only Live Twice
    16. Spectre
    17. Tomorrow Never Dies
    18. Moonraker
    19. A View To A Kill
    20. The Man With The Golden Gun
    21. Die Another Day
    22. Diamonds Are Forever.
    23. Quantum Of Solace
    24. The World Is Not Enough

    Another Dr No fan. ;-)

    Nice meeting you sir.

    :D
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,207

    Perhaps we fans exaggerate a bit sometimes. And therefore non-fans put us with both feet back on our feet again 😜. It's a bit enlightening to escape the fan bubble at times.

    Not to be demeaning but fans are still the connaisseurs and they know their stuff. There is a difference between occasionally liking something and adoring it.

    Can’t say I agree with all those self-proclaimed film critics who would have you believe ‘The Dark Knight’ is the best film ever made without ever having learned to appreciate the true fundaments of good filmmaking, like Ingmar Bergman, Fritz Lang or Michelangelo Antonioni to name but a few.

    So yes, I don’t think all those casual viewers who think they know Bond and proclaim CR and SF as ‘the best Bond films ever’, despite not having any idea whatever Bond is all about, are to be taken seriously.

    Nevertheless, I know you guys do know your stuff and if you like SP that’s fine by me. I’m sure your reasons for liking it are well-founded since I know you are in the know too. Like everyone on this forum is.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    GoldenGun wrote: »

    Not to be demeaning but fans are still the connaisseurs and they know their stuff. There is a difference between occasionally liking something and adoring it.

    Can’t say I agree with all those self-proclaimed film critics who would have you believe ‘The Dark Knight’ is the best film ever made without ever having learned to appreciate the true fundaments of good filmmaking, like Ingmar Bergman, Fritz Lang or Michelangelo Antonioni to name but a few.

    So yes, I don’t think all those casual viewers who think they know Bond and proclaim CR and SF as ‘the best Bond films ever’, despite not having any idea whatever Bond is all about, are to be taken seriously.

    Nevertheless, I know you guys do know your stuff and if you like SP that’s fine by me. I’m sure your reasons for liking it are well-founded since I know you are in the know too. Like everyone on this forum is.

    Wise words. My fav directors are Welles, Tarkovsky and Antonioni. I think the best director living today is Kechiche, at least the one who makes the most interesting and powerful films. And I like SP, for a lot of reasons.
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
    edited September 2019 Posts: 815
    Was going to wait until after I saw No Time To Die a couple times until I posted my updated ranking, but what the hell. A few things have shifted here and there, including my #1 favorite Bond movie ranking.

    1. Casino Royale
    2. Thunderball
    3. From Russia With Love
    4. Dr. No
    5. Goldfinger
    6. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    7. Skyfall
    8. The Living Daylights
    9. Spectre
    10. Quantum of Solace
    11. Goldeneye
    12. License To Kill
    13. You Only Live Twice
    14. For Your Eyes Only
    15. The Spy Who Loved Me
    16. Live And Let Die
    17. Diamonds Are Forever
    18. Tomorrow Never Dies
    19. The World is Not Enough
    20. Octopussy
    21. The Man With The Golden Gun
    22. Moonraker
    23. A View To A Kill
    24. Die Another Day

    Maybe I should change my username to Casino Royale now. 😎
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    Was going to wait until after I saw No Time To Die a couple times until I posted my updated ranking, but what the hell. A few things have shifted here and there, including my #1 favorite Bond movie ranking.

    1. Casino Royale
    2. Thunderball
    3. From Russia With Love
    4. Dr. No
    5. Goldfinger
    6. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    7. Skyfall
    8. Spectre
    9. The Living Daylights
    10. Quantum of Solace
    11. Goldeneye
    12. License To Kill
    13. You Only Live Twice
    14. For Your Eyes Only
    15. The Spy Who Loved Me
    16. Live And Let Die
    17. Diamonds Are Forever
    18. Tomorrow Never Dies
    19. The World is Not Enough
    20. Octopussy
    21. The Man With The Golden Gun
    22. Moonraker
    23. A View To A Kill
    24. Die Another Day

    Maybe I should change my username to Casino Royale now. 😎

    That's a really good list. Fine choices.
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
    Posts: 815
    Thanks. I edited the list, ranking TLD over SP. No matter how much I love and defend SP, I had to admit that I love TLD more. What a damn fine film.

    Though you might think it’s a good list, all the Moore and Brosnan fans are scoffing. I really like those guys, they just happen to be in some of the weaker entries in the series. FYEO and GE are quite enjoyable Bond films. Not golden like the first 9 or 10 on my list but certainly not down in the dregs with what I call The Fatuous Five, OP, TMWTGG, MR, AVTAK and DAD. I have a hard time sitting through these all the way.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    Thanks. I edited the list, ranking TLD over SP. No matter how much I love and defend SP, I had to admit that I love TLD more. What a damn fine film.

    Though you might think it’s a good list, all the Moore and Brosnan fans are scoffing. I really like those guys, they just happen to be in some of the weaker entries in the series. FYEO and GE are quite enjoyable Bond films. Not golden like the first 9 or 10 on my list but certainly not down in the dregs with what I call The Fatuous Five, OP, TMWTGG, MR, AVTAK and DAD. I have a hard time sitting through these all the way.

    Yes, TLD is a great entry. But I'm a Dalton fan and honestly I'd put LTK slightly higher TLD, just for a simple reason: it has a stronger identity and a more unique concept behind it. But I love both.

    Speaking about the others yes, I feel the same. I like both Moore and Brosnan - even if I'd choose Moore any time, he's just pure class and fun - but I find their entries the weakest. The cool thing is that even in the worst Bond film there's always something enjoyable in it. The SP haters won't agree with this, but I'm happy to feel this way.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
    Posts: 4,078
    Was going to wait until after I saw No Time To Die a couple times until I posted my updated ranking, but what the hell. A few things have shifted here and there, including my #1 favorite Bond movie ranking.

    1. Casino Royale
    2. Thunderball
    3. From Russia With Love
    4. Dr. No
    5. Goldfinger
    6. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    7. Skyfall
    8. The Living Daylights
    9. Spectre
    10. Quantum of Solace
    11. Goldeneye
    12. License To Kill
    13. You Only Live Twice
    14. For Your Eyes Only
    15. The Spy Who Loved Me
    16. Live And Let Die
    17. Diamonds Are Forever
    18. Tomorrow Never Dies
    19. The World is Not Enough
    20. Octopussy
    21. The Man With The Golden Gun
    22. Moonraker
    23. A View To A Kill
    24. Die Another Day

    Maybe I should change my username to Casino Royale now. 😎

    Great top ten apart from SP. Put in FYEO and it's the same as my mine. Albeit in a different order.
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