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Because that's her voice, unfortunately.
Initially, I thought Madeleine, but now given what we know of the film and it's attempt to wrap up the entire Craig era, I'd have to say Vesper. I'd much prefer it to be Madeleine as I feel that trying to cap off all five films in one will be a hindrance to this film.
I'd also argue that they closed the Vesper narrative in Quantum of Solace with the ending of the film. It's at least implied that Bond facing Yusef allows him to come to peace with Vesper's death. I will without question be wrong though and I'm sure the note is from Vesper in NTTD. The theory that Craig visits Vesper's grave and then its attacked I think is highly likely, IMO. It makes sense that Vesper would be burried in Matera given it's about an hour or so flight from Venice.
But I don't think so.
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So I think that's
Matera festive tradition. Got it.
While it's not a real Italian or Materan tradition, I can imagine that they use the "burning piece of paper with what you want to ask your dead" thing as related to the festivity we see in the movie. And we see Madeleine burning paper and Bond burning paper
Bingo.
Damn, Barbara really wasn't kidding when she said Bond goes through a big emotional journey in this film...
Credit everyone involved in this film, less than two months before it's released and we're still unsure about all most everything. It's really exciting
It’s looking likely that the opening of the film is young Madeleine on the lake with Safin. Then we either go straight into the Matera scenes or Matera comes after the main titles.
So much is dependent on how long the lake sequence is…it could be a good 5 minutes of screentime or it may be a few brief flashes.
It would be odd to have a Bond film not open with Bond…it could be an strange note to go into the title song with.
Someone oo the title song thread said the song is called "Trapped Under Ice", and if this is true, then that suggests the PTS is at the ice lake and then we cut to the titles/song and then meet Bond and Madeleine in Matera after the titles.
Anyway, my bet is we open Norway leading into Matera, with Matera leading to titles. Then I think we'll open with the kidnapping of the scientist (in London?), giving us space from Bond to create the idea of him being away for a long time, then I think we'll go to Jamaica. I'd love if M's line about "getting 007" cuts to Jamaica like the trailer does, and we don't see Nomi yet.
I'd like it if we saw her trail Bond in Jamaica like the photographer in Dr. No, before we eventually learn she's 007, and M was asking for her. I know we've heard rumours of walking into M's office for her mission, but I just think this trailing idea is much more interesting and would be a cool reference and switch on the reference itself.
Anyway, then we got to Cuba, then back to London and then I'm not sure where because I think we go back to Norway (with Scotland doubling a lot of it) but then I'm not sure cause I'm not if they're gonna be in Norway the whole of the third act as well.
So if it is Matera it could be the longest pre title sequence of the series.
I can't imagine the Norway sequence being longer than Skyfall or Spectre's opening sequences, so to have an even shorter sequence followed by 2 and a half hours lets say, again, doesn't work as much structurally - to me anyway. I think it'd be good to split those sequences up.
The opening of your film gives you a brief flashback or whatever you wanna call it. Shows us what happened with Bond and Madeleine, then the whole film after the title sequence is present day.
But I may be in the minority.
As for the PTS I think they'll want to bring Bond back with a bang, at least I'd hope so
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What makes you think that mate?
Yes, that's what I am feeling. The Matera scenes seem like they will take up a fair chunk of time, perhaps too long for pre-title. A snappy pre-title at the ice lake (without Bond) might be smart and fresh way to kick off this film. In a few weeks, we will know.
Which means there'll be a sizeable time jump in the actual film, which I believe we've never had before (the time jumps in GE and DAD were broken up by the main title sequence).
I think Maddy will wake from a dream recollection of the Norway sequence leading us into Matera.
Also having the film dissolve into the titles after Bond puts Maddy on the train seems to make sense, @peter and I have discussed this and to me it makes sense.
We'll likely get possibly the longest PTS of the DC era but starting the film after the credits likely in London, the time space the rest of the film will continue with.
That is my thinking but I might be wrong.
Yes, it would mean that, but the ice lake seems to be set in the past (perhaps 20 years back), so we have a big time jump to Matera anyway. The alternative - to just the ice lake opening the film - is a very long pre-title, probably the longest ever, with the ice lake, and then a big time jump to the action in Matera. Then the titles/song followed by another time jump to Jamaica. Three big time jumps. We've never had that before.