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This is the only Bond with a beginning so it only makes sense he should have a comprehensive ending. In a way Fukunaga is the ideal fella for this assignment - like his other films plot is almost a perfunctory consideration and this is a film about its protagonist's soul, his quest to find, finally his centre and the realisation that it is an impossibility.
Also well done to the poster with the death god theory as that is manifest tenfold and becomes the raison d'etre for the ending- CraigBond's tendency for everything he touches tending to wither and die becoming quite literally his curse. If Spectre's question was "could Bond stop being Bond and everything that involves" then NTTD's answer is a full blown scream of "NO".
I wish it was a little tighter in the middle and Malek's character given a bit more shape and a lot more screentime but honestly I'm almost as jubilant as I was in 06 and 12. I'm always going to be disappointed Craig didn't get one more boilerplate Bond film but if the trade off is this special interregnum where we get a series of films actually about James Bond rather than featuring him then I couldn't be happier. It's not for everyone - indeed not all of it is for me but at least nobody involved is going to die wondering.
Then how do you do Bond 26? It's not the original James Bond unless it's set before Dr. No. I doubt Amazon want to make period Bond films set in the 1950s.
Eon have torn up the reality rulebook. If Bond is dead but comes back, there is no real danger. Bond dies but he lives. Er... okay. Does that make continuity sense? Not really.
I've no idea how they're going to do Bond 26. My guess is most casual fans won't care and just accept Bond is alive and with a new face.
I guess a full reboot is the only way forward. Eon have boxed themselves into a corner and will have to reset the franchise from zero.
Of course they’re gonna reboot. It’s what Spider-Man has already done twice so far and no one has an issue with it.
But... Craig's Bond is set in a separate continuity from the others so this already happened...?
Hey, if you put your back into it, you can imagine all you want :)
Okay. I suppose fans unhappy with Bond dying will have to accept it or if not, boycott the film. I don't mean that to sound harsh but if you don't want to see James Bond die... there is no option but not to see NTTD. Just give it a miss and pretend Daniel Craig's era ended with SPECTRE. Bond and Swann driving away from London. The end.
8:30pm tonight needs to hurry up!!!
Really enjoyed the pre-credit sequence - starts off like a Nordic Noir thriller and then switches to Matera and to some first rate action. Enjoyed the first act, quick punchy, very Bond. But the 2nd act and the family in peril stuff didn't do it for me - seen it done before and better - and watching daddy Bond watching his daughter eating breakfast, his lip quivering in pride just didn't do it for me. 3rd act ok - Rami Malek totally wasted as one dimensional villain (especially after the pre-credit build up) , Bond saving his family predictable and the ending, Bond sacrificing himself ala Tony Stark was what it was. Emotionally, I felt sad that the 60 year old franchise, as it is, was over, but no tears from me.
What really surprised me though,was my reaction to the playing of Louis Armstrong "We Have All the Time in the World" over the end credits. I cringed. Perhaps because I relate the song so strongly to the Bond/Tracy courtship montage. I don't know. Didn't work at all for me and it was the thing that annoyed me most.
But thats just my opinion. I am sure others will really enjoy it. And I hope they do. Looking forward to the future now (I hope).
Found this online. Personally, it's a very well directed sequence and gives some little clues about the plot (e.g. the statue which florishes)
I have seen a few people saying that NTTD will be like OHMSS. Not because of all the references to it, but because OHMSS was disliked by many for years and is now regarded as one of the best in the series.
Do you think this will be the case?
Surely, great movies create their own heritage rather than borrow/steal from others? I could understand references to CR as it's part of/bookends the DC arc but from another "universe" and 52 years ago!
Just time for a quick bacon sandwich and then off the the 12.30 show
There is another scenario. Next year Eon announce they're no longer making Bond films. They sell their stake to Amazon. That way Babs and MG leave the franchise bringing Eon's 25 Bond films to a logical (if very controversial) end... the death of James Bond.
B Broccoli said the search for the next Bond actor begins next year but you never know, things can change. If this is the end of the 1962 to 2021 Bond era (accepting Craig's era was at the start of Bond's career) the producers may feel the franchise has reached its natural conclusion so selling up, handing the franchise to a new owner, is the only way forward.
I think it's going to be the same in the way that there'll most likely be a switch in tone with Bond #7, thus causing a sort of backlash to Craig just like Pierce was thrashed after Casino Royale. I think, in due time NTTD will be reappraised as being bold, unique and a very good bookend to an actor's tenure.
I'll be interested to marathon the Craig era to see how the entire arc flows. it may be a controversial wrap-up, but I suppose not every Bond era can end on a cruise ship with a red-headed moll asking him, "How the hell do we get those diamonds back down again?"
I am LOVING the massive
I was on the ball about the DNA motif, too!
I personally think it's best to just view the Craig films as kind of a mini-series, completely detached from the rest of the franchise.
On a side note, I did watch said scene on YT and I have to say the music completely ruined what could have been a much more understated and impactful scene.
And yes, it was definitely like watching a Metal Gear Solid bloated cutscene (a frequent pet peeve fans of the beloved series have with Kojima, a man not primarly known for his subtlety) - swelling strings and dramatic close-ups, all designed to pull at your heart strings like the filmmaker wanted to say "it's ok, you can cry now".
I realize I saw that short clip on a tiny Iphone screen and without the proper context surrounding it, but so far it doesn't bode well for my appreciation of the film.
It looks so much like a video game cutscene! I was telling a friend that.
Funny you should mention Kojima given how many plot points resemble MGS plot points.
Well, Thanos plan didn't work out, so...
Any idea how Bond survives being atomized? Do you have inclination how Eon will (quite literally) resurrect the franchise? Seems a tricky problem to solve!
Bond walks into Moneypenny's office:
"I thought you were dead, James."
😉