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Yes, I spotted that, so much for a different universe
Oh, are we a tad little arrogant, Sirrah?
It goes together with the Aston martin i believe ahahha (the db5 was the one from Dimitrios in CR and not from Goldfinger, but the V8? How bond had it?
I agree with a lot of what you say I've thought for a long time that maybe EON should purchase the rights to the Anthony Horowitz novels which are pretty good and from Fleming's unused material, set in the 50's they would be the perfect way to relaunch and refresh the series as from a more relevant period.
It's all Just damn perfect. Ties closed, old Friends, enemies, Revenge, love, action.
And if Craig's Bond has to die, this Is the perfect how and the perfect why.
All his arc has been about protecting the love without actually succeeding in doing that. Vesper dies, M dies, Matisse dies, Felix dies, he Is still there and he finally understands he has to make the ultimate sacrifice for his loves to live.
Beautiful.
I really liked it but apparently that makes me not a proper fan.
Some people just want a time piece with no development. Guaranteed if we'd stayed on the DAD trajectory or still with Pierce and then cast another actor with no proper reset like they did, Bond would have been nowhere the success it has been.
BB & MGW have been vindicated in their decisions and the casting of Craig, the films have never been just for the hardcore fan base they are for a mass audience.
Also how hard is to accept this is going to be a complete reboot, a new timeline, a new Bond, quite possibly a new MI6 team.
All this coming up with scenarios to keep this one going is as daft as the one where people were trying to tie the DN - DAD era to the DC one.
Those that didn't like this era should be happy, they can ignore the blonde, grumpy fella and after DAD and skip right to the next era if they like.
DC has been a hugely successful Bond in the mainstream, it is just factions of the fan base that see utter disaster.
Crybabies that didn't get the Bond film that was in their head.
The ending with Swann telling Mathilde a story about a man called Bond, James Bond could be some sort of jumping off point, but to what I don't know (remakes of previous Bonds?!). Really reminded me of Fleming's self-referential ending to YOLT where he writes about an author writing the stories of Commander Bond.
I'd hate to ruin this for anyone
Just got back from seeing NTTD...
Truthfully I'm underwhelmed
I mean, it's not exactly ridiculous to me that he could've been the head of MI-6 before Olivia Mansfield in the Craig universe, too. I would imagine she became M around the same time in both the GE-DAD and CR-SF worlds.
@SpectreNumberTwo enjoy (or don’t enjoy) the movies however you like, but don’t tell others how to because that’s none of your business.
Find a Better cinema :D
We only had applauses
Where did you watch mate? Was in Manchester yesterday and no booing everyone just looked shell shocked. Watching in speke later on though so be interesting to see if the booing is a Merseyside thing lol it's certainly how I feel about it.
The odeon in Bromborough on the Wirral mate (Not far from were Daniel grew up)
I'll be honest, I wouldn't boo it, there was a lot of amazing stuff in it but that ending didn't sit well with me. I was one of the only ones left in the theater patiently waiting for James Bond Will Return. More than 3/4 left before Madeline's final line
The cinema I was in loved it, and the script was on another level to Spectre, (Ok that's not hard) Sophie Waller-Bridge clearly did some incredible work. The humour was natural and well integrated rather than cringe. It felt like a film everyone really wanted to make, whereas Spectre clearly no-one cared, or all the behind the scenes stuff beat the will out of them. Craig was incredible and clearly cared again.
I hated the idea of Madeline coming back, and as the film went on was genuinely impressed they made it work, and wonderfully, and for that, whoever figured out the story deserves immense, immense credit. After the pre-credits I was a bit worried because it was exactly as I expected, she betrays him etc etc. Doing what everyone feared and then turning it on its head was I think much more clever than any ideas anyone here had for what to do with her. The 007 part was also done exceptionally well.
It was beautifully shot, the dialogue was good, everything in Cuba and with Felix was wonderful, and a lovely touch with the 'I had a brother' line later. Yes obviously there's a debate about whether he should have died or they could have given the happy ending, but obviously everyone involved wanted it to be this way, and I think if that was the decision, they did it well.
As others have already said, lots here clamour for Fleming...Fleming was not about happy endings. It's kind of the point of the character and maybe some of you have only just got a rude awakening about that.
Bond is not a superhero. He's a pretty messed up character and if you think you're supposed to admire him go and read more Fleming.
Ps. One person said 'they only made Q gay to be woke'. You know Ben Whishaw is gay in real life? Are you genuinely saying no gay person can ever be shown in film or it is 'woke' whatever you think that means? Or do you just object to relationships in films being shown generally? I really really don't get this idea that showing something that is very common in real life is being just to be 'woke'. It's weird not to show it! If you have a problem with a world where gay people exist being shown, that's probably your problem, not the film. Why on earth does it matter?
Just trying to create as little mayhem on this board and in the Bond community as possible!
Top first post and lovely last paragraph.
Edit- well the one that was there.
Thanks, sorry, it's back, had a little editing error!
With the nonsense Valdo said to her, he had it coming.
Enjoyed your thoughts. I'm prepping to see it next week.
I'm underwhelmed. To put it simply, I didn't like it. And I really wanted to like it. But I didn't.
The first 40m of the film are impressive, but then it goes south without any chance for remission.
Well, that was that.
Moreover, I believe the universe we once loved, the Bond style of films died with it. Long gone is the womaniser, stylish secret agent. I don't believe he's coming back.
What a melodrama of epic proportions. And I didn't feel for it. Not once. For the first time, I left the cinema and a Bond film feeling...nothing.
Sure there are brilliantly executed scenes, and the direction is very good, despite most of it looking cartoonish, but although I was loving the first part of the film, it all fell fast and hard.
I'm sure there are parts of it I'll praise, given time. But for now, I just deflated.
Underwhelmed and deflated.
It's interesting how much quality DC's tenure has. And yet, it doesn't get to my heart. Not really. I can't explain it more than this. I liked his tenure. They were the best years of my life. I really like Mr. Craig. And I've been always a strong EON supporter in every way.
But...I don't like what they've done to Bond. Not in this film. And not just the ending.
Now, I would've paid good money to watch those Bond and Felix Cuban adventures, but hey, they don't go for that. We have to watch soap operas of epic proportions every single g damn time.
Rant over.
Univex out
Speak for yourself. Most normal people are still being sexy, it's only those who were weird about it who are suddenly finding things difficult.
I meant in the cinema. Obviously.
*you’re
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Of course. I think you are right. General audiences will only see the "quality film" it is.
But, as a lifelong James Bond fan, I hated two of the choices they've made. Those two choices really ruin it all for me.
And I was one of those who, knowing that he