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IMHO, based on what was seen on screen: there is no question about it. He’s dead.
I tend to agree. They could have shown him off on a new mission, family behind, the classic will the hero survive to come home for dinner trope, provided it was handled right. In fact, if you watch the documentary featuring his last scene shot, it’s out of sequence obviously, but it’s him running off down a corridor or alley and disappearing. That would have been perfect. I’m still sad about the ending. It’s the finality, obviously. I don’t want to be reminded of mortality. Not now. We all deserve brighter futures and it’s Bond’s job to promise that. Damn you DC you’ve broken my heart. I’d always thought that was your wife’s job ;)
Now I'm wondering if Mission Impossible will kill Ethan Hunt in their upcoming movie :))
That wouldn't surprise me honestly.
It’s partly the problem with the marvel type connected story lines. Clearing up the loose ends means NTTD is too long. They can’t kill Bond while Blofeld is still alive so they have to add Blofeld’s death in. Once I saw that i was expecting the end of the movie given the rumours.
Connected story lines only work when there is a clear start and end point and you don’t need retcons which have damaged the end of Craig’s tenure.
The difference if they did is that the IMF are bigger than one agent, the USA searched for years to find a spy franchise to rival Bond, Mission Impossible is it and you can still kill off the main protaganist but carry on with a new team leader.
It's in the You Only Live Twice novel for Christ's sake.
Anyway, hard reboot coming. Roll on Bond 26.
Clearly the filmmakers are a lot more engaged with Ian Fleming's Bond! ;)
They are and they aren't. Baby Bond being a prime example. ;)
So he basically commits suicide because he can't be with a women he'd been separated from for five years until two days ago and a daughter he's only known for a day. This is not how I want a Bond film to end.
I think I'm a fairly open minded Bond fan. Skyfall really shock up the Bond formula and did things I'd never expect to see in a Bond and I love it. But there are certain lines that shouldn't be crossed and NTTD crosses them.
Craig era will always live in it's own bubble, even though killing off his Bond will make me look his 4 previous films in a different light.
Baby Bond?
Pretty sure his plan involved getting off the island. He didn't choose to stay, he was beaten. Once the silo doors started to close, he was never getting away. There was no choice involved, he was bested by a foe, who on the scale of Bond Villainy, was not all that great.
No, because in Danny Boyles script Bond would not die. So Craig said yes to Bond 25 without the plan of killing Bond.
That's usually a good indicator for me as well!
I was more shaken during the part where Felix dies.
No. Still missing the point. Both of you. I understand that's a lot to take.
In Jamaica he wasn't living. He was existing. After Safin poisoned him, Bond understands that he's not interested anymore in living a life where everything he touches turns to dust. He already suffered enough because of that in the past and at this point, where his future is jeopardize, dying is the only way to stop his curse. Remember the scene in the cabin where he tells her how much he loves her and that he never stopped loving her. He doesn't want to live a life without the love of his life and their daughter. That is not life. That is just existing. The final quote by M makes it perfectly clear. Bond has no time for that. He's not interested in that. Not anymore.
Obviously he was badly injured, but if his intentions were to survive, he would've tried. He deliberately chooses to die because his future life would've been just about existing, and not living the time he was still given. That's it.
N.B. From the end of the YOLT novel where Bond was believed to be dead at MI6:
Mary Goodnight: I was happy and proud to serve Commander Bond in a close capacity during the past three years at the Ministry of Defence. If indeed our fears for him are justified, may I suggest these simple words for his epitaph? Many of the junior staff here feel they represent his philosophy: “I shall not waste my days in trying to prolong them. I shall use my time.”
Exactly 100%
Ha! You remind me of me...
I'm not missing your point, I'm choosing to have an opinion.
It can be dressed up in Fleming literary quotes all day long though, but I am not going to be convinced that killing the cinematic Bond is a good idea, or that it was executed in a competent manner in NTTD.
I'm glad there are those who enjoy it, and my days of arguing until I'm blue on the face on MI6 died a decade ago.
Don’t get me wrong, as far as it being the only scene in which Bond has died, it was handled well and undeniably powerful. I had some tears! The two follow up scenes weren’t too great in my eyes though, other than the quote M read out, which was fitting.