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The womanizing is not a deal breaker to me, but I think people have to recognize even back during the Thunderball days they had to turn this concept on its head because it was getting predictable. Remember Fiona Volpe? Idk that showing some naive doe-eyed women falling for Bond would get more than eye rolls at this point from the audience (hello, woman from the Spectre opening sequence!). Personally I prefer if the woman is in on it and is getting something out of Bond too, not just being deceived and thrown away.
As long as they keep the sensuality and glamour in these films, I don't really mind.
Glad you enjoyed the film, I thought it was up there with CR.
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Except he was intoxicated by Safin with these nanobots, so happy family life would not really be possible. Or do you mean, Safin did not get Bomnd intoxicated? And either my eyesight is getting worse than I expected, but I did not see Bond getting atomized. Yes, there was the detonation, but Kananga being blown up and then in peaces (maybe the most ridiculous death of a Bond villain) was more expolicit.
As somebody posted some pages ago, the only occasion EON included a tribute in the end credits, was in GE for Derek Meddings, who had worked at this and other earlier Bond movies, as he died before the film opened. And, of course, to Cubby in TND. No tributes to Harry Saltzman, Terence Young, Peter Hunt, Ken Adam, Lewis Gilbert, Guy Hamilton, Bernard Lee, Richard Maibaum, John Barry, etc.
Plus 1. You and I think exactly alike on this.
And therein lies your answer, Bond (and Jaws) has appeared to be doomed or killed so many times in previous Bond movies that the audience nolonger believes in that aspect of the movie. Instead of being horrified they just chuckle and wink at each other. The veteran Bond audience was never going to really buy into it unless they spelt it out and left absolutely no sintilla doubt whatsoever
But that is exactly what they wanted to avoid;- the situation we've seen in so many Bond movies before. This time they want the audience to leave the theatre knowing that Craig-Bond is really dead and will never reappear.
Which would defeat the point they were trying to make (like it or not)
The Daniel Craig incarnation of Bond has died, but do you feel that Connery-Bond is dead? Or Rog-Bond? I know I don't. Even though Sir Sean and Sir Rog have both passed on to that great health spa in the sky, in my mind their Bond characters are still out there floating about in the Caribbean, in their respective dinghys or inflatable life rafts, with a martini in one hand and a beautiful girl under each arm
James Bond will continue, so keep calm and carry on
As someone who went to see this movie with very low expectations based on all that has been posted in this thread so far, I must say I quite enjoyed the movie and I think it does not hurt the franchise's legacy in any way.
It will definitely not find its way into my top 10 but it is nevertheless a solid entry that is without a doubt my favorite of all Craig's outings.
The things that impressed me:
Daniel Craig - by far his best performance as Bond. Despite the films's glaring shortcomings, he single handedly makes it all work thanks to a wonderful performance that blends equally well both the emotional stuff and the more light-hearted moments.
One of my biggest gripes when it came to Craig was that he couldn't do humour very well, either because the jokes/quips themselves fell flat or because his delivery seemed forced.
This time around he's definitely honed his craft in that regard and most of the jokes delivered (which are still few and far between as this is still a DC Bond movie) manage to hit the mark (the drinking jab at M is a particular highlight).
I also found that he moved much more gracefully than in previous movies.
PTS- gunbarrel was ok, but what followed was very, very good. A definite highlight. It's such a shame that Safin ended up being such a disappointment, after having shown great promise in that sequence.
The Woods - an eerie and beautifully shot scene.
The pacing - at almost three hours, this movie relatively flies by. An impressive feat, thanks to solid directing and excellent editing.
The things I didn't care for:
Nomi - a completely unnecessary character that doesn't add anything to the proceedings. Lynch is serviceable at best.
Blofeld - Contrary to general consensus, I actually prefered him in SPECTRE. At least in that movie it was Waltz playing himself rather than doing a poor Hannibal Lecter impession. And his death is one of the worst in the series, just embarassing.
Safin - like previously stated, could have been a great villain following his PTS introduction but in the end, it's his cool lair and garden that stick more to mind.
Not a great fan of Malek's performance as well. Relies too much on his creepy eyes (Pleasence was clearly an inspiration) without giving his character any real nuance.
Zimmer - in all honesty, I can't even say if I liked the score or not as I barely remember any of it.
But the track accompanying Bond's death scene was just unbearable and ruined what otherwise could have been a genuinely moving scene. Sometimes less is more, Hans.
The use of WHATTITW - some things should remain untouched and this is definitely such an example.
Metal Gear Bond - MGS fans will surely aknowledge that the writers, whether knowingly or not, 'borrowed' key elements from Kojima's beloved video game saga:
Daniel Craig as Solid Snake
Christoph Waltz as Liquid Snake
Rami Malek as Ocelot
Ralph Fiennes as Colonel Roy Campbell
Lea Seydoux as Meryl Silverburgh
Heracles = Foxdie
Not to mention the stairwell fight and Bond's final moments closely mimic some of the franchise's most memorable moments.
Scenes/characters that should have made an impact but left me relatvely indifferent:
Paloma/Cuba - the Cuba sequence and De Armas are often cited as movie highlights but for me they are just fine, nothing more.
Felix's death - Wright is a fine actor but his Felix never really managed to make an impression on me or make me believe he and Bond were truly pals.
That's also why Dalton's revenge in LTK felt much more satisfying, compared to Craig's dispatch of Logan (another weak villain).
On a last note, the Bond/Madeleine/Mathilde plot thread was for the most part deftly handled so I have no major quibbles about that aspect of the movie. Again, this is largely thanks to Craig's superb performance.
I've never watched a Craig Bond movie more than once, but will definitely go a second time (this time with the wife) - at the moment it's a solid 7 out of 10 for me.
I can only speak for myself, but I can't mourn for a fictional character, and Bond is a fictional character. I prefer to mourn the death of family members, relatives, and close friends. But everybody to his/her own liking. And you dislike Bond's death. You are entitled to do so.
This happens occasionally in German dubbing. In DAF Bond says something during the fight with Bambi and Thumper, but Connery's lips don't move. In ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST Henry Fopnda says "Pacific, eh?" while watching MNortimer die. In the English version he does not say anything. Odd.
With how exciting the movie was, the 2hrs 43mins runtime of the movie really flew by. And I even stayed till the end credits!
JAMES BOND WILL RETURN.
Casino Royale.
I feel the same way. What a baffling decision, to make a movie like this at a time when everything is going to crap and the world specifically needs a hero who prevails instead of succumbs at the end. And it all seems like it was done because the actor wanted it.
I didn't like it, but are we to assume that Craig wrote the script?
I very much doubt it was his choice. He obviously didn't push back too much otherwise it wouldn't have happened, but still? Don't put the blame on him.