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I see it again tomorrow in the afternoon where it's relatively quiet up to now (looks like about 15 seats booked on the Odeon website.) - honestly, I can't wait.
A few friends said to me there were audible gasps and some tears in other cinemas though. Think it just depends on what showing and audience demographic.
I saw one recent review of NTTD which said it had no plot and no story. By all means people are free to debate the merits or otherwise of the nanobot macguffin, Saffin's motivation or the general storyline about Bond and Madeleine but to say plot and story are absent is a ridiculous exaggeration which discredits the reviewer.
HERE, HERE =D>
This one...currently the most "helpful" (4/10 stars) at least tries to argue his/her case. I don't agree with some of it, but fair points:
"I am a hardcore Daniel Craig bond fan. For me "Casino Royale" is the best Bond movie ever made and I have seen multiple times. The only good part in this entire movie is the 10-15 mins Ana de Armas appears, completely lights up the screen, rest of the actresses are nothing to write about.
They force a god awful love story in a franchise which is about a secret agent and his missions. Unfortunately there is zero chemistry between the lead pair unlike the sheer magic between Vesper and Bond in Casino Royale. You cried when he cries for her in Venice but here you can't understand why is Bond indulging in stupidity for this lady. I felt more for Felix.
And the lesser said about the token black 007, the better. If you have no intention of building a wholesome character stop adding characters just for the sake of diversity.
And the dialogues, cringeworthy sermons running for minutes which make no sense or connection. Rami Malek could have been replaced by a marble statue and that would have acted better. We needed a better finale to the best Bond ever and what we got was a bad memory of a great actor."
Yeah completely agree mate. At this moment in time I'm struggling to see what the future of Bond will look like.
Daniel has definitely took it to another level
No doubt, this is a film in which character and actor converge. As DC was beginning work on Bond 25, he and wife Rachel Weisz had a daughter. This is DC's second child, another daughter, and it is reasonable to think that Bond having a young daughter and DC having a young daughter is more than just coincidence. It is reasonable to think that the "death" of Bond is a metaphor for DC leaving the franchise and leaving this "family." Many actors and crew members have described EON and Bond films as a family.
I also think that this is Bond at his most heroic.
Criticisms of the film and its ending are valid. To accept this ending is to accept a philosophical and emotional shift that is very uncomfortable. But I had no problems making that shift and part of the reason is that I have two daughters, the oldest of which looked much like Mathilde when she was that young. In fact, I did not cry at Bond's death; what tugged at me was seeing the constant confusion and fear on Mathilde's face. (I think she was CGId into some of these scenes? I certainly hope so.) And when Bond gave her the sweater...I bawled. That is a father-daughter thing that some of us will get.
Fleming was not afraid to bring personal consequence into the books and OHMSS drove that home. This film does the same. It is a daring choice. I applaud EON, DC, and CJF for going in this direction.
But the ending is not intended to be all gloom and doom. Consider how we are introduced to DC's Bond in CR:
This image is in complete contrast to the one we see at the end of NTTD, from the back, in bright white light. There is an angelic quality to the final image, to the fade into white, and the clouds over London. Is it heavy-handed? Sure. But it's effective.
LOL that's exactly the opposite.
I cant stop listening to it either, i get goosebumps just thinking of it. Absolutely brilliant score, beautiful in parts. I totally agree with what you said above - NTTD is right up there with CR for me too. I can't wait to see it again tonight.
Yes, that's insane. I'm a novelist and teach creative writing - while story and plot are separate elements, I'd say NTTD had a moderately coherent plot (as far as Bond ever does - I had some issues with it like M's involvement with a bioweapon project given the man he's been shown to be in previous films, for instance) and a really big story.
The last film I saw in the cinema before lockdown was Pet Semetary. And that was rubbish. Not even as good as the TV miniseries from the 1980s.
Anyway I’ve now seen NTTD and I can safely say … it smashes Pet Semetary into the ground. No contest.
On every level - acting, music, script, action, emotion - NTTD just grinds Pet Semetary into dust.
Incidentally I also thought it was a top tier Bond film too.
I wish we had kept on that direction for Craig's tenure (no Q, Moneypenny, definitely no Blofeld).
I respect--nay, admire--that Fukunaga did his best to clean up Mendes' mess.
As of now, and I've only seen it once (last night), my ranking is:
CR
QoS
NTTD
SF
SP
I was going to mention at some point, it’s especially impressive to me how much I like NTTD and find it really good as it picks up tons from SP. Better direction, writing, and performances all around.
Nice to see some QOS appreciation. It’s the Craig film I watch more than any other. CR didn’t really gel together for me, but I see that I am in a minority.
Anyway:
NTTD
QOS
SP
CR
(Big gap)
SF
that may change though as time passes and NTTD settles in the mind
I have taken a few minutes to think about this (and only a few minutes because I love this film and honestly couldn't care less what labels people paste on it) and I can't see anything in it that strikes me as blatant PC/wokeness/SJW propaganda. So what if Bond doesn't sleep with Paloma? She was an absolute delight and fulfilled her role as "minor" Bond girl with verve. A suggestion of sex with Bond is not what I need to consider the quality of a female character in a Bond film.
I really liked that too
No, but maybe that's because I don't find Nomi insufferable? 🤣
Now can we get back to:
Suddenly that all makes sense.
They're not going back to this. The subversion is only going to get worse, especially if this movie makes a ton of cash.
Yeah but what about A Reason to Die..?