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It has a mute button. And block; but I just mute - then I never see that person's comments again. So civil and peaceful. (Not meant to be interpreted as directed at the comment above mine. I was just perusing tons of comments in general and had that thought.)
Glad you enjoyed it! For me, it’s just too heavy of an emotional ride. Seems like people mostly really like or dislike NTTD; with some in the middle.
Maybe that wasn't quite the right way to describe it but
CR having only just been "introduced" / "rebooted" he resigns from the service during the movie
QOS he goes rogue
SF he goes AWOL
SP he resigns again
NTTD he dies
You don't feel that's a bit too much "emotional content" for James Bond?
The Craig version of Bond couldn't get through a single movie without coming off the rails in some way
I definitely love this Bond movie. Nothing was diminished for me (except the wrenching physical reaction I had with deep sadness from my first viewing). More gained this time, as I was able to catch some more things and just absorb the film into my mind, heart, and DNA. It's such a great Bond film. Not just because it's emotional and moving; though the acting throughout is wonderful, especially superb by Craig. But as a Bond film, it gives me exciting action, beautiful locales stunningly filmed, Felix (I always loved Jeffrey in this role) and was brilliantly directed and edited. So good, in every category. I enjoyed it today immensely. I'm so glad I decided to see it several times on the big screen; it is a much more all encompassing experience than on a DVD at home. Thrilling, moving, and quite fun in parts. A balanced Bond film and a terrific send-off for Daniel Craig.
OHMSS he quits, falls in love and gets married, and cries.
LTK he quits.
YOLT novel he’s depressed, nearly gets fired by M, he has a child.
LALD novel he cries.
“QoS he goes rogue”: Bond goes rogue or defies orders in some way in nearly every single Bond story there is.
So I’m not sure what your point is. Bond has always been an emotional character. To think that “being hindered by emotion and self doubt” are “too feminine” to be characteristics of Bond… categorically wrong and borderline offensive. I know those weren’t your comments, but it makes me fairly frustrated to hear those types of things.
Thanks. I just thought about that today. It zooms in on his legs and shoes just like in CR. Yes, that scene is literally heartbreaking. I had a friend that took in the late show, massive Bond fan, and he said it was an emotional rollercoaster that has drained him to the bone. But also said that it is a top 5 Bond for him. He has a room full of Bond memorabilia dating back to Dr. No. I was curious as to what his take would be. I said I can’t believe you’re not on the MI6 Board-it’s the place to be if you’re a Bond fan!
Yes ... and I think that Zimmer's Final Ascent instrumental will go down as among the most hauntingly beautiful music in the entire series.
Do I think Craig's Bond is too emotional, veered too much in that direction? No, I do not. Never felt that. I'm really glad we got a realistic, fully fleshed out, vital, gritty, conflicted, and at times vulnerable Bond. I love Fleming; I love Craig's Bond. I would change some things about his two of his films, but Casino Royale, Skyfall, and No Time To Die - those I value as is. Most especially CR and NTTD; nearly flawless films and I wouldn't want any other actor in them (from the ones we have had at least).
100% agree. My favourite thing about the TMWTGG novel as well is how it deals with Bond’s difficulty with killing in cold blood. Getting inside Bond’s mind is really why the novels can’t be missed IMO. His short stories are brilliant as well. I’ll have to revisit LALD soon; I’m planning on reading them all again before Horowitz’ next one (post-TMWTGG) in April.
I was listening to various people's reaction. Things like "... so that's how they want to force us to accept this black girl as the new star, by killing Bonf off" and "No choice now they have to reboot again otherwise I'm done with the series without Bond". All that got me thinking. Seriously, would the producers really consider moving away from James Bond's character and continue the series without him? Are they this Woke? That's more than a small risk, it's flirting with disaster. Not that it couldn't work mind you, but seriously, I'm having a hard time seeing this as a real possibility.
So my money would be on a reboot, doesn't have to be an origin story like CR though. Anyhow, Had not gone to the theater since I took my kid to Frozen 2! I'm going again to Dune in a few weeks. I bet I won't be as shocked with this one as with NTTD! I've become quite a Dune fan since first posting in KTBEU, but anyhow, it was nice to go to the theater even if on the frikkin first Saturday of a Bond release there were at most 40 people in there. I could hear positive reactions throughout the flick, but after the ending, all I was hearing were negative reactions. If we're heading towards a reboot though, was the killing of Bond really necessary? Certainly has a different taste than having the lovely family end happy and leave in the sunset.
The DC films were their own entity, and I imagine they’ll go back to more episodic films in the future of the franchise.
Nomi is not returning. I don't believe any MI6 characters are returning, and I don't think they should. Barbara already said it will be a reboot. By the way, "woke" is insulting in my opinion. All the bruhaha about it before the film seemed empty when I saw this movie; which others have also said. Nomi is fine, nothing to get concerned about. She is NOT replacing Craig's Bond and will not be the new Bond.
This ending was Craig's Bond'sending. His is the only complete Bond story we have. And we don't need another. Next film will be different. We have had how many actors as Bond now? So "your Bond" and "my Bond" and Fleming's from the novels have all had different characterizations for all these years. The films will continue, no worries. No need to tie in Craig's Bond's story. Will the next one have any reference to Craig's Bond at all? I don't know, but if so I would think it would be very slight indeed. Nothing should tie his into the next new era. I appreciate NTTD and I'm quite happy will be getting a new, different kind of Bond next. Whoever that is. I do hope he will be a good actor, but no need to take the exact same tone of Daniel's Bond. So I think it sounds like you are very very concerned, and I don't think you need to be.
I do think having Bond die fit this particular Bond, yes. I wouldn't change NTTD's ending. It was fitting and I thought very well done.
Well said.
I feel that if we come away with one thing from Craig’s Bond it’s that he’s human. Just like the rest of us. No other Bond does that.
"have effectively consisted of a series of standalone films upon which continuity has been uncomfortably foisted and shoehorned in as the films have gone along, rather than existing as part of a coherent and pre-prepared grand design."
http://www.007magazine.co.uk/bond25/no_time_to_die_review.htm
A few thoughts after the first viewing
- While I still don't totally like the choice for him to die, it's not done in a horrible way. I didn't react emotionally or anything, perhaps because I knew it was coming? Quite a few tears around me, but I didn't hear anyone yell in anger or anything about it like I was expecting.
- I enjoyed the OHMSS callbacks. Lots of people at my screening didn't pick up on them, especially the younger fans.
- The return of my favorite car in the series! I knew it was coming from the trailers and promos but I still got a huge smile on my face when he whipped the cover off and was driving it to MI6 with the Bond theme playing.
- One of my favorite PTS in the series.
- Craig gives a top-notch performance. He is absolutely incredible in the PTS, and still great in the rest of the film besides a few small nit picks here and there. I thought he handled the humor parts a lot better here than in SP. I do wish that they had kept the "History isn't kind to men who play God" line the same as the trailer though.
- Léa Seydoux was a lot better in this one.
- Didn't mind the daughter angle but I thought some of the dialogue could have been made a little less cheesy.
- Ana de Armas. Even with little screen time, easily one of my favorite Bond girls ever. Great performance.
- I actually liked Safin. He's not in the pantheon of great Bond villain's, but I had read from some that he was bottom tier and I just don't see it. He's solid.
I guess that’s true, yes. How did M put it in Skyfall? “An exemplar of British fortitude.” I guess we know how she would have written his obituary. I can’t believe I’m typing this.
I'll do you one better! :))
I’ll be honest, I fell out of my chair laughing.
(Another amazingly gorgeous huge cinema screen experience today; my 3rd viewing of NTTD)
EON has already confirmed the reboot.
Can't agree with that. The scene where he falls through the roof onto the bar table, jumps up like a indestructable badass and continues to poor a drink for Paloma and himself is a great and very bondian moment for me. I love Dan's acting during that scene. He is as suave and cool as Connery ever was.
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It's honestly a masterstroke in itself that that scene - which on paper is like something you'd expect from a lesser Moore film or DAF - doesn't come across as camp but merely a moment of badassery from Bond and Paloma.
Yes, looking at my description of the scene as written, it sounds very campy, but it really works perfectly on screen.